Banned Hooligans

**Gatecrasher** · 02-09-2010 05:24 PM

http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20...262950_2142851

**AugustaHibs** · 02-09-2010 05:27 PM

Well done hibs.

**maturehibby** · 02-09-2010 05:30 PM

Ok thats them banned now name and shame them as well

**~~Toaods~~** · 02-09-2010 07:30 PM

'involved in a disturbance'....

I'm all for the club taking appropriate action but there's flashpoints where ever you go, never mind overseas. How do we know this was not just intimidation from locals that ended up in a scene?

It's easy to jump on the blame bandwagon but I sure wouldn't be too chuffed if I was only defending myself in unknown territory and to get an exclusion order from the club.

Were these folk found guilty in a court over there?

If they have been surely it's a free for all in the name/shame game.

**K.Marx** · 02-09-2010 07:39 PM

I wasnt aware that there was any bother over there for the away leg (although i was on holiday at the time so had better things to do then check .net

) was it anything major??

**~~hibees707070~~** · 02-09-2010 07:48 PM

There was a bit of bother before the game. The 6 in question got lifted outside before it and released after it with a 175 euro fine

**~~Toaods~~** · 02-09-2010 07:49 PM

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I wasnt aware that there was any bother over there for the away leg (although i was on holiday at the time so had better things to do then check .net

) was it anything major??

well, I wasn't there so I'm only going on the info here but can't recall any coverage either nationally or in the Evening News of any bother there.

certainly remember they had a bunch of thugs turning over some Old Ladies coffee tables down Cockburn Street but that was it.

***Jamesie*** · 02-09-2010 08:03 PM

"The six involved, who were arrested by Slovenian Police working with Lothian and Borders Police, are now banned from entering Easter Road Stadium or from purchasing tickets for away matches involving Hibernian Football Club. "

Lucky buggers

**Antifa Hibs** · 02-09-2010 08:33 PM

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'involved in a disturbance'....

I'm all for the club taking appropriate action but there's flashpoints where ever you go, never mind overseas. How do we know this was not just intimidation from locals that ended up in a scene?

It's easy to jump on the blame bandwagon but I sure wouldn't be too chuffed if I was only defending myself in unknown territory and to get an exclusion order from the club.

Were these folk found guilty in a court over there?

If they have been surely it's a free for all in the name/shame game.

Was after the game I believe. 6 'arrested', taken to the local cop shop, realesed, went to court Friday morning to pay a fine that they knew they were paying. One young lad (16-17) concussed I believe.

This police-fitba club love in is rather scary. The 6 in question for 'meant' to be the victims, so I heard. They got huckled for what could've been next to nothing. Maribor polis tell L&B, L&B tell Hibs...

***Jack*** · 02-09-2010 09:19 PM

So they were found guilty in a Hibs related incident and somehow its not fair?

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The club should of named and shamed them.

**Antifa Hibs** · 02-09-2010 09:23 PM

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So they were found guilty in a Hibs related incident and somehow its not fair?

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The club should of named and shamed them.

I still fail to see why they should be banned from Easter Road. According to them, they were the victims, how much truth is in that I don't know.

If someone got in a fight at 1pm or 6pm on Leith Walk on a home Hibs matchday, how should that get them a banning order from ER..?

**Banff** · 02-09-2010 09:29 PM

Believe me if you want. But Maribor came out of nowhere and were attacking EVERYONE, then the police steamed in too (guess who won that one), and were only arresting Hibs fans. Hibs have been far too quick to ban these people, and should be asked to provide evidence!!

**Hibs On Tour** · 02-09-2010 09:32 PM

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'involved in a disturbance'....

I'm all for the club taking appropriate action but there's flashpoints where ever you go, never mind overseas. How do we know this was not just intimidation from locals that ended up in a scene?

It's easy to jump on the blame bandwagon but I sure wouldn't be too chuffed if I was only defending myself in unknown territory and to get an exclusion order from the club.

Were these folk found guilty in a court over there?

If they have been surely it's a free for all in the name/shame game.

Think there was a bit of 'encouragement' from the 2 L+B officers there to arrest the guys - you know to ensure they didn't just look like they'd been on a jolly abroad at taxpayers expense. Certainly I only heard of one really minor incident out there. Also heard that at least one of the arrests was for whatever the equivalent is of being drunk and disorderly rather than for anything fighting related. If that's the case, then the club are out of order banning people for that.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 02-09-2010 09:35 PM

While walking from the square to the ground, Hibbyradge asked one of the lovely looking police women why their was such a heavy police presence, as we were just there to have a bit of fun. She said you may be here to have fun, but we are not so much here to watch what we are doing more to protect you from the maribor idiots, or words to that effect.

Dave will be able to tell us exactly what she said.

**Antifa Hibs** · 02-09-2010 09:36 PM

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Believe me if you want. But Maribor came out of nowhere and were attacking EVERYONE, then the police steamed in too (guess who won that one), and were only arresting Hibs fans. Hibs have been far too quick to ban these people, and should be asked to provide evidence!!

That what I was told on the Friday morning over a salami roll and coffee by a guy that had seen it. Having not witnessed any bother before or after I was a bit dubious....

From what I gathered they got fined with the Slovenian equivilent of a breach of the peace/being drunk in a public place. Weren't charged with anything, hence I think its very harse.

**~~Sergey~~** · 02-09-2010 09:42 PM

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While walking from the square to the ground, Hibbyradge asked one of the lovely looking police women why their was such a heavy police presence, as we were just there to have a bit of fun. She said you may be here to have fun, but we are not so much here to watch what we are doing more to protect you from the maribor idiots, or words to that effect.

Dave will be able to tell us exactly what she said.

Thank your lucky stars that they found your singing acceptable

**Banff** · 02-09-2010 09:47 PM

[QUOTE=Antifa Hibs;2566854]That what I was told on the Friday morning over a salami roll and coffee by a guy that had seen it. Having not witnessed any bother before or after I was a bit dubious....

Its true, my mates were involved!

***blackpoolhibs*** · 02-09-2010 09:48 PM

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Thank your lucky stars that they found your singing acceptable

I'd been practicing, the eurovision is my next goal?

**~~Sergey~~** · 02-09-2010 09:54 PM

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I'd been practicing, the eurovision is my next goal?

Drop that female backing singer

***CropleyWasGod*** · 02-09-2010 10:02 PM

There's clearly a divergence of opinions here, so I shall ask this...

In cases where supporters have been banned by the club, is there any mechanism for an appeal? If not, isn't it possible that a legal challenge could be made?

**Fantic** · 02-09-2010 10:25 PM

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Its true, my mates were involved![/QUOTE]

Are your mates casuals

**hibsdaft** · 02-09-2010 11:04 PM

i'm interested to know on what basis the club has described them as hooligans, and on what basis they have banned them from ER. the club's statement does not justify their decision in any tangible way. it only states that they were involved in a disturbance, which could, as others have suggested may be the case, have been as the victim.

i would like to think the club have carried out the necessary background checks before making this decision but they have not made it clear whether they have.

**Turnip** · 02-09-2010 11:40 PM

Hibs don't hand out banning orders, Lothian & Borders do. Why these guys have been banned is a matter for L&B not HFC. That's all i know about it

***scoopyboy*** · 03-09-2010 05:59 AM

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Hibs don't hand out banning orders, Lothian & Borders do. Why these guys have been banned is a matter for L&B not HFC. That's all i know about it

L&B hand out banning orders but in this instance it is Hibs who have banned them not the police.

**~~PaulSmith~~** · 03-09-2010 06:29 AM

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Hibs don't hand out banning orders, Lothian & Borders do. Why these guys have been banned is a matter for L&B not HFC. That's all i know about it

No, the courts hand out banning orders and the police need to prove a reason for one to be handed down.

I think it's quite poor by Hibs but it will be directly down to the clubs new security officer trying to make his mark, i.e. John Boag who had a history and was hated by a large number of Hearts fans for some of his actions.

Expect more of these stories to appear on Hibs web site in months to come.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 03-09-2010 08:16 AM

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Hibs don't hand out banning orders, Lothian & Borders do. Why these guys have been banned is a matter for L&B not HFC. That's all i know about it

Disagree. If the club decide that they don't want to let these people on to their premises, that they don't want to do business with them, they are legally and morally entitled to do so.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 03-09-2010 08:20 AM

I have no idea who's been banned, or if it was justified. Although if its any of the so called casuals, then perhaps even if they were innocent this time, they have certainly not been innocent in the past, and their past has finally caught up with them?

***scoopyboy*** · 03-09-2010 08:28 AM

The club should be issuing compulsory attendance orders on people not banning them.

We need all the supporters we can get.

**~~Hibernia Na Eir~~** · 03-09-2010 08:31 AM

well lets hope Maribor ban the 20 or so of their hoolies lifted in the Canongate before the 2nd leg.

dont care if they were fighting Poles or Hibs, they were still up for a dash.