Nick Clegg yesterday informed us that the whole nation is behind the English bid for the World Cup. Frankly I could not care less if England get the World Cup or not. Already we see British money being poured into the London Olympic venue while cuts are imposed on things which seem somehow to be more important.
Nick Clegg does not speak for "the whole nation" but an increasingly marginalised minority.
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Thread: England's World Cup Bid
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24-08-2010 06:44 AM #1
England's World Cup Bid
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24-08-2010 06:47 AM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-08-2010 06:47 AM #3
Have to say I think it would be brillliant if England hosted the World Cup. I really hope they get it.
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24-08-2010 06:52 AM #4
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I'd imagine those that don't want England to get it are in the minority TBH.
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24-08-2010 06:58 AM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-08-2010 07:18 AM #6
I hope they don't. A World Cup in Russia would be quite different, trips to Belgium and the Netherlands would be interesting to say the least, and a summer in Spain would be fantastico.
England? Having "FOOTBALL'S CAAAAMING HOME" stuff down our throats for the years before it? **** that for a laugh.
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24-08-2010 07:22 AM #7
Definately want them to get it. Book the buses/trains/flights early and it'd be pretty cheap and lets face it, their stadiums are up there with the worlds best.
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24-08-2010 07:22 AM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
i agree with you guys, if they get it i will probably go and take a few games in as well
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24-08-2010 07:34 AM #10
Our tax quids are already rebuilding the whole of East London in the name of sport. Now we're expected to upgrade English stadiums and infrastructure up and down that country, and suffer more one-side propaganda for an already cash-rich and quality poor league, while our domestic game rots away in the backwater slum of Hampden Park?
Nein danke.
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24-08-2010 07:39 AM #11
Whilst I've not got much time for either of them, putting the "2nd in command" forward to meet the people who will ultimately be responsible for deciding where the competition will be hosted instead of The PM could well be a serious misjudgement on The Governments part.
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24-08-2010 07:43 AM #12
would be fantastic if England get the World Cup,, fantastic support for Scotland WHEN we qualify.. and if we dont qualify imagine alot of Scots will be going down to try and catch a few games.. Its the closest the World Cup is ever going to be to Scotland so why not enjoy it ,,, unless ofcourse the unthinkable was to happen..
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24-08-2010 07:48 AM #13
Hutchy...it was just a technical inspection visit re stadia, infrastructure etc. None of the FIFA decision making committee are involved hence why Clegg and not PM. Having said that Putin did roll out the red carpet when they visited Russia. Russia seem favourites at the mo and Franz Becks' strong influence seems to be against England and for Russia.
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24-08-2010 08:24 AM #14
**** them I say, any excuse to get in the back door without having to qualify and really hate to live in this country and have to listen to endless crap about 66 and all that again, we won't qualify with Harry Potter in charge thats for sure so I'm 100% against it, mon the Russkies
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24-08-2010 08:47 AM #15
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I couldn't really give a flying one whether they get it or not, which is how the majority of Scots/Welsh/N. Irish probably feel - so to say "the nation" is 100% behind it is a complete fabrication - unless of course by "the nation" he actually means England. And here was me thinking that as deputy PM he represented the whole of the UK .
What I DO give a sheight about is making sure that if THEY do get the WC that THEY should bloody well pay for it. I fail to see how spending billions of pounds on upgrading English football grounds and English infrastructure benefits Scotland one iota.
In fact I'd go further by saying that inflating the already over-bloated wealth and reputation of the game down south can do nothing but harm to the game north of the border. Our clubs already suffer by comparison to the corpulent wages on offer down there with even the bloated Old Firm struggling to compete with English clubs the size of Motherwell for wages and signing on fees.
So - what I'd like to see if the English do get the WC is safeguards put in place to ensure that us Scots don't have to pay a bent penny towards it - we sure as hell won't reap any benefits so let the English pay for it themselves with cuts to THEIR services/jobs etc.
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24-08-2010 08:49 AM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-08-2010 08:50 AM #17
World Cup in England - yep, 100% behind it, as long as England (and only England) pays for it.
Gene Genie
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24-08-2010 09:03 AM #18
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I think it would be great for them to have it. I'd still want them to get humped though.
How has other sporting events been divided up i.e. the Glasgow Commonwealth games. Were they funded solely from Scottish budgets? If so, England should pay for the WC from their own budget.
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24-08-2010 09:03 AM #19This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
although Bob, you have to admit, pumping England in their own back yard would be niceHibernian Football Club
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24-08-2010 09:05 AM #20
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After what I just said, I read that they're bid is 'unbeatable', probably a bit like Hearts when they were unbeatable.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8934838.stm
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24-08-2010 09:07 AM #21
Getting the World Cup would be great and would have far a bigger 'legacy' than the East London Olympics (and I suspect at a cheaper cost to the taxpayer as well with many of the stadiums already in place).
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24-08-2010 09:11 AM #22
I'd love to see England get the World Cup, they already have some of the best stadiums in the world and realistically the money to be invested will be quite limited compared to the amount of money raised by the event itself and the boost to the UK economy.
Hopefully we can qualify too, will make it really easy to get to games.
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24-08-2010 09:13 AM #23This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-08-2010 09:29 AM #24
I haven't read anything about the proposed venues etc but could Hibs not benefit if they were to rent out East Mains training facilities for such an event to teams possibly playing at a venue in the north east of England?
Personally couldn't care less whether the World Cup is held in England or not, so I must also being in the growing minority.
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24-08-2010 10:21 AM #25
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For those who couldn't care...
Would you not love to have world cup games with some of the best players on the planet a two hours car journey or an hours flight away.
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24-08-2010 10:27 AM #26This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteEvery gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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24-08-2010 10:31 AM #27
There's alot to be said for England getting to host the WC.Most of the stadium are already in place and others (like a new anfield/white hart lane) would be rebuilt before that time at the sole expense of the club.
The road infrastructure is pretty much there, as is rail and air links.
The economic benefits to The UK would be significant, people would stay in Scotland/Wales and travel to matches in England.
Teams would be looking for high quality training facilities and East Mains would be an attractive one, close to major city and airport
Pre-tournament warm up matches, ER would be a potential venue.
Seeing England build themsleves into a frenzy then fail to get past the 1/4's
It's nothing like the Olympics really, where everything is London(ish) based, the whole nation (even Scotland) gets an economic boost, and if Scotland qualified, we'd be the best supported team there, including England.
I say give it to them.
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24-08-2010 10:43 AM #28This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Football 'the peoples game'. The world cup 'uniting great nations together in the name of football'. The World Cup just past we had South Africans having to pay half a months wage for one ticket and had stewards going on strike because they only got half they wages they were promised. Meanwhile Fifa, a non-profit organization walked away with a tidy sum of $1billion.
Could they not have made it a UK bid. Allow the use of the millenium stadium, hampden/ibrox/parkhead, murrayfield and a new Winsor Park or something, share the billions all over the UK not just keep it in London..?Last edited by Antifa Hibs; 24-08-2010 at 10:49 AM.
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24-08-2010 10:56 AM #29This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It is quite typical of a lot of English people to refer to England as the "whole country" when they really mean the UK. It's no wonder that we then get people from across Europe, the USA and several other places referring to the UK as just England.
The rest of your post is spot on as well, by the way. If England wishes to hold the World Cup, England should pay for it and Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish taxpayers should pay for sod all because there will be absolutely no benefits brought in to any of those countries through England hosting the World Cup.
You can bet your boots though that there will be financial implications for us up here and at a time when Scottish football really is on its last legs, it really would be a kick in the teeth to see our already rich footballing neighbours south of the border getting even more wealthy, particularly when we would be helping to part-fund it.
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24-08-2010 11:36 AM #30This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Think that's something the SFA are against because they fear it would be a reason Uefa might use towards a British team rather than the constituant nations...
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