Oh dear Iain Brines!

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COMPLETELY to blame for the red card incident IMHO. Had he booked Lafferty for the original foul, as he should have done, the sitiuation would never have arisen. Hibs however take a quick free kick and Lafferty still has the red mist and before you know it, all hell has broken loose.

Still no doubt the supervisor in the stand will big him up as Rangers ended up with 3 points.

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COMPLETELY to blame for the red card incident IMHO. Had he booked Lafferty for the original foul, as he should have done, the sitiuation would never have arisen. Hibs however take a quick free kick and Lafferty still has the red mist and before you know it, all hell has broken loose.

Still no doubt the supervisor in the stand will big him up as Rangers ended up with 3 points.

Having seen about 10 replays I still don't know why McBride went with him

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Having seen about 10 replays I still don't know why McBride went with him

For blasting the ball at Fudderty I would imagine, the red cards hurt us more, we never really recovered from that. I thought yellow cards would have sufficed, as for the McGregor one, that was embarrassing, he should be hunted for that

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For blasting the ball at Fudderty I would imagine, the red cards hurt us more, we never really recovered from that. I thought yellow cards would have sufficed, as for the McGregor one, that was embarrassing, he should be hunted for that

You say yellow cards. This suggests you feel that lefferty should have been yellowed

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You say yellow cards. This suggests you feel that lefferty should have been yellowed

I didn't mean plural, I thought McBride Yellow for blasting the ball, Fudderty=twat=red.

It was the McGregor one that riled me, that was just embarrassing, I actually thought he was better than that.

[Atalanta]

I understood that kicking a ball at a player was ungentlemanly conduct and should be a yellow card. Hibs should appeal the red card although if the ref has to admit he was wrong there is little chance of winning the appeal.

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I understood that kicking a ball at a player was ungentlemanly conduct and should be a yellow card. Hibs should appeal the red card although if the ref has to admit he was wrong there is little chance of winning the appeal.

had the ref blew his whistle when mcbride kicked the ball ? if he had then you are talking fractions of a second and if not you can surely kick the ball however/wherever you want when the ball is in play.if you blast the ball towards goal from 2 yards and it hits someone on the line should you now expect a straight red brines was a complete tool and directly affected the result as mcbride was much more influential than laughable

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Having seen about 10 replays I still don't know why McBride went with him

The simple answer is he SHOULDN'T have. If anything Stokes was the only Hibs player getting too involved.

Hibs will definitely appeal McBrides SO and will win it. Sadly, it was a cowardly or corrupt decision by Brines that changed the game. But since I've seen this stuff of 40+ years, its just the same old same old with refs and OF

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had the ref blew his whistle when mcbride kicked the ball ? if he had then you are talking fractions of a second and if not you can surely kick the ball however/wherever you want when the ball is in play.if you blast the ball towards goal from 2 yards and it hits someone on the line should you now expect a straight red brines was a complete tool and directly affected the result as mcbride was much more influential than laughable

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It was the McGregor one that riled me, that was just embarrassing, I actually thought he was better than that.

Ignoring years of extensive evidence both on and off the park that he is a fud of the highest order?

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I didn't mean plural, I thought McBride Yellow for blasting the ball, Fudderty=twat=red.

It was the McGregor one that riled me, that was just embarrassing, I actually thought he was better than that.

Embarrassing doesn't come close. The Hun Goalie deliberately tried to con the ref and get a fellow player sent off = straight RED (and don't stop walking). The Huns today were an excellent reflection of their two managers : Uncle Watty and his mini me.

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The simple answer is he SHOULDN'T have. If anything Stokes was the only Hibs player getting too involved.

Hibs will definitely appeal McBrides SO and will win it. Sadly, it was a cowardly or corrupt decision by Brines that changed the game. But since I've seen this stuff of 40+ years, its just the same old same old with refs and OF

Brine's shirked away from doing what was right in several cases. However he applied the unwritten rule of 'if you have to send an OF player off, a player from the opposing side must go too'. McGregor (whom after today's display I can say I would never tire of punching) should have been shown a Red card for the Agro and Simulation (2 Yellows), Weir should have either been spoken to or at least carded for grabbing McBride by the scruff of the neck during the skirmish that ensued from the Lafferty incident. Bougherra should have been on his way for his appalling challenge on Miller towards the end.

Frankly the Ref and injuries cost us the match. With regards to the McBride sending off from what I have heard the whistle had NOT gone when McBride kicked the ball, as such the ball was still in play if it has hit a player whilst still in play no action should be taken (unless it appears deliberate, in which case a warning or a Yellow should suffice). I've been following Hibs for 10 years now and although much has changed with regards to refs and the OF it's still clear that the same prejudices still exist, sadly.

[Kaiser1962]

Disagree PCS, while I concede that Brines didnt effectively deal with the original incident the fault lies entirely with professional players who are unable, in the heat of battle, to maintain their discipline. Said players are also cheating, diving, whinging, moaning, dishonest, cowardly ****bags who do not have one ounce of self respect or dignity. Who will, in general, resort to whatever means at their disposal to get the win. Is it any coincidence that the most successful teams are full of these personalitys where the "middle of the table" sides dont possess them to the same degree? I think not. The problem is, and always will be, that "winners" are feted and cheats are rewarded handsomely. The refs dont stand a chance

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COMPLETELY to blame for the red card incident IMHO. Had he booked Lafferty for the original foul, as he should have done, the sitiuation would never have arisen. Hibs however take a quick free kick and Lafferty still has the red mist and before you know it, all hell has broken loose.

Still no doubt the supervisor in the stand will big him up as Rangers ended up with 3 points.

[lucky]

I actually think McGregors offence is worse than his drinking and two finger offence with scotland. He should banned by the SFA

[Atalanta]

I have a real sense of Deja Vu here. It now seems that every time either of the Old Firm comes to Easter Road at some point in the game we get a piece of poor refereeing that leads to an unfair advantage to the Old Firm team.

The media and the SFA talk about honest mistakes. It is amazing how all of these "honest " mistakes continually favour the Old Firm.

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Disagree PCS, while I concede that Brines didnt effectively deal with the original incident the fault lies entirely with professional players who are unable, in the heat of battle, to maintain their discipline. Said players are also cheating, diving, whinging, moaning, dishonest, cowardly ****bags who do not have one ounce of self respect or dignity. Who will, in general, resort to whatever means at their disposal to get the win. Is it any coincidence that the most successful teams are full of these personalitys where the "middle of the table" sides dont possess them to the same degree? I think not. The problem is, and always will be, that "winners" are feted and cheats are rewarded handsomely. The refs dont stand a chance

Agree that players often don't help themselves but the ref is the man in charge and is being paid handsomely to be so (despite what they'd tell you). If Brines had taken control of the original situation as he should have then the players most likely wouldn't have reacted as they did. They certainly aren't blameless but weak referees who can't keep control of games will always encounter such situations.

[HibbyAndy]

Anyone care to explain why David Weir didnt get booked for grabbing Mcbride by the throat?!?!?

Time and time i again i see this ersehole Weir grabbing players by the scruff of the neck and getting no card.

Poor poor showing today Brines.

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Anyone care to explain why David Weir didnt get booked for grabbing Mcbride by the throat?!?!?

Time and time i again i see this ersehole Weir grabbing players by the scruff of the neck and getting no card.

Poor poor showing today Brines.

Answer = He's the captain of Rangers.

Simples.

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Anyone care to explain why David Weir didnt get booked for grabbing Mcbride by the throat?!?!?

Time and time i again i see this ersehole Weir grabbing players by the scruff of the neck and getting no card.

Poor poor showing today Brines.

does seem to do that ALL the time and get away with it, as for the ref you can never tell but until his bottle job it seemed the worst we would get is a draw

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The simple answer is he SHOULDN'T have. If anything Stokes was the only Hibs player getting too involved.

Hibs will definitely appeal McBrides SO and will win it. Sadly, it was a cowardly or corrupt decision by Brines that changed the game. But since I've seen this stuff of 40+ years, its just the same old same old with refs and OF

Dont think we will tbh, we're talking about the sfa here. And McBride didn't complain at all when he was show the red. I actually thought the ref would send stokes off, seemed to go in over the top.

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Sent off for kicking the ball at a player. What happens when players do this to get corners or throw ins, will these be sending offs too? Ref you are an arse.

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Dont think we will tbh, we're talking about the sfa here. And McBride didn't complain at all when he was show the red. I actually thought the ref would send stokes off, seemed to go in over the top.

couldn't disagree more.

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Anyone care to explain why David Weir didnt get booked for grabbing Mcbride by the throat?!?!?

Time and time i again i see this ersehole Weir grabbing players by the scruff of the neck and getting no card.

Poor poor showing today Brines.

He did the same thing to Riordan after McCheater threw himself to the ground.

Its about time someone did the same to grandpa and see how he likes it. Over to you Sol

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COMPLETELY to blame for the red card incident IMHO. Had he booked Lafferty for the original foul, as he should have done, the sitiuation would never have arisen. Hibs however take a quick free kick and Lafferty still has the red mist and before you know it, all hell has broken loose.

Still no doubt the supervisor in the stand will big him up as Rangers ended up with 3 points.

Correct, I cannae belive he wisnae done for the 1st incident (actually yes I can) and you're right he'll be somewhere else next week making a **** of another game with the full backing of the fannies that run the game.

[brog]

I think Brines is a clown. I always return to the time he sent Ivan off for ( gently ) bouncing the ball down in frustration. The following week, an already booked Hun, booted the ball 40 yards away in protest at a decision ( against Pars in cup ). Guess what, no action?
For all that I thought he mostly had a reasonable game yesterday. There's no doubt Deeks should not have been booked & McBride's should have been a yellow but McBride was stupid & gave Brines the opportunity to equalise a sending off for a Hun. Refs are only human, they will automatically look after their own self-interest & they know they will never be criticised by media for sending off a non OF player, whereas - - - -!!
I actually didn't think KL's tackle on it's own was a straight red but as OP said if he had cautioned Lafferty originally then the subsequent mayhem would have been avoided. Lafferty however definitely deserved a red for his subsequent behaviour. I think however it was his original booking of Riordan which set the tone. You could see Brines knew exactly what had happened, his body language to Deeks was conciliatory & almost apologetic but he still booked him for reasons as above. That gave the Huns the nod & a wink they needed. It told them their keeper could act aggressively, could swear & could then feign injury & end up with the same punishment as an entirely innocent party.
Incidentally, apologies if this is on another thread, who in the SFA made a statement last night that McGregor would not face further punishment? This is the body which takes weeks to hear appeals but can leak something to the media a few hours after a game is over.
The usual double standards.

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I think Brines is a clown. I always return to the time he sent Ivan off for ( gently ) bouncing the ball down in frustration. The following week, an already booked Hun, booted the ball 40 yards away in protest at a decision ( against Pars in cup ). Guess what, no action?
For all that I thought he mostly had a reasonable game yesterday. There's no doubt Deeks should not have been booked & McBride's should have been a yellow but McBride was stupid & gave Brines the opportunity to equalise a sending off for a Hun. Refs are only human, they will automatically look after their own self-interest & they know they will never be criticised by media for sending off a non OF player, whereas - - - -!!
I actually didn't think KL's tackle on it's own was a straight red but as OP said if he had cautioned Lafferty originally then the subsequent mayhem would have been avoided. Lafferty however definitely deserved a red for his subsequent behaviour. I think however it was his original booking of Riordan which set the tone. You could see Brines knew exactly what had happened, his body language to Deeks was conciliatory & almost apologetic but he still booked him for reasons as above. That gave the Huns the nod & a wink they needed. It told them their keeper could act aggressively, could swear & could then feign injury & end up with the same punishment as an entirely innocent party.
Incidentally, apologies if this is on another thread, who in the SFA made a statement last night that McGregor would not face further punishment? This is the body which takes weeks to hear appeals but can leak something to the media a few hours after a game is over.
The usual double standards.

Is that something new like?

[DCI Gene Hunt]

Usually don't like criticising refs or indulging in conspiracy theories, however it is clear that yesterday was a farcical display of pish-poor officialling and, dare I say, implied favouritism towards the away team.

Whilst I usually rubbish conspiracy theories, I agree with other posters that it is a repeating occurrence in matches that the Odious Firm are repeatedly shown deliberate favouritism over all other SPL teams with regards to, usually very dubious, decisions on the field of play, with a very, very rare few minor exceptions.

There is no point in participating in this game if the game's rules are not enforced fairly and equally with no favouritism, otherwise all is pointless and lost and we (i.e. everyone apart from Celtic and Rangers) may as well just give up because nobody is going to get anywhere unless they are part of the clique.

New league with everyone in the SPL apart from the minging bigoted weegies? Fcek knows where the money would come from but it would be a much better, more competitive game I think. And none of this IRA/King Billy load of arse that should have been buried years ago, and had no place in our game to start with.

Gene

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Anyone care to explain why David Weir didnt get booked for grabbing Mcbride by the throat?!?!?

Time and time i again i see this ersehole Weir grabbing players by the scruff of the neck and getting no card.

Poor poor showing today Brines.

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Answer = He's the captain of Rangers.

Simples.

Yep.

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Sent off for kicking the ball at a player. What happens when players do this to get corners or throw ins, will these be sending offs too? Ref you are an arse.

It was laughable.

[DCI Gene Hunt]

Was he sent off for kicking the ball or was it for the handbags in the aftermath?

Either way, absolute farce, total pish.

Gene

[brog]

Unsurprisingly Brines apparently gave Yogi 2 different answers re K McB sending off. Initially said was for melee after the foul then changed mind to say was for kicking the ball at Fud! He was no doubt encouraged in his latter approach by willingness of commentators to classify McB's lash of the ball as violent conduct!!