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    James Milner £24m and probably at least £100,000 a week. For a player that was not even a stick on for a place in the England team. That transfer also includes Steven Ireland in a move to Aston Villa and he must be worth a few million in todays market.

    Craig Bellamy to Cardiff, so desperate to play in the Championship for a Welsh club. Yeah right! After negotiating £35,000 a week and also £65,000 a week from Man City just to havehim off the books. He cost millions to buy just two years ago.

    Has the world gone completely mad? I am beginning to really dislike Man City and everthing they now stand for. They used to be a solid city club with a loyal fanbase. They are now the folly of some Arab Shiek who wants a new toy. His spending is making Roman Abvramovich look like Tight Wad. Fingers crossed they win nothing this season.

    There was a time when you won a trophy, these people obviously think it is there to be bought.


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    its got way too silly and no more a contest of footballing skill and just a game of investment chess....

    Was said on radio today that since early June Man City have spent £2million PER DAY on transfers alone make clubs restricted to turnover matching expenditure in some manner

    sooner Uefa

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Silver Fox View Post
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    James Milner £24m and probably at least £100,000 a week. For a player that was not even a stick on for a place in the England team. That transfer also includes Steven Ireland in a move to Aston Villa and he must be worth a few million in todays market.

    Craig Bellamy to Cardiff, so desperate to play in the Championship for a Welsh club. Yeah right! After negotiating £35,000 a week and also £65,000 a week from Man City just to havehim off the books. He cost millions to buy just two years ago.

    Has the world gone completely mad? I am beginning to really dislike Man City and everthing they now stand for. They used to be a solid city club with a loyal fanbase. They are now the folly of some Arab Shiek who wants a new toy. His spending is making Roman Abvramovich look like Tight Wad. Fingers crossed they win nothing this season.

    There was a time when you won a trophy, these people obviously think it is there to be bought.
    Thing with Man City is that they are trying to buy success and once again they'll win hee haw this season

    Horrible club who will be up ***** creek when the Arab Shiek gets bored of his play thing.

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    Agree with all you say.

    Will be interesting to see if Milner and balotelli contribute much more than ireland and Bellamy.

    Unfortunately there ain't many true peoples clubs left in the epl that can be reasonably successful.

    I think all the other clubs spending shows what a good job moyes is doing at everton.

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    From what i've read on this Milner has doubled his wages from his Villa days, no idea what he was on at Villa, Ireland was valued at 8 Million by City on his transfer to Villa, Man City are now saying that is all their transfer dealings for this window done.

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    Id rather have the German laddie Ozul (sp?) Ahead of Milner and he cost Real Madrid 12 million.
    Says it all really.

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    spot on, it's ruining the game as we know it.

    There really has to be caps (possibly a wage cap that has to relate to the club's turnover) so that the "cheaters" can be forced out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Silver Fox View Post
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    James Milner £24m and probably at least £100,000 a week. For a player that was not even a stick on for a place in the England team. That transfer also includes Steven Ireland in a move to Aston Villa and he must be worth a few million in todays market.

    Craig Bellamy to Cardiff, so desperate to play in the Championship for a Welsh club. Yeah right! After negotiating £35,000 a week and also £65,000 a week from Man City just to havehim off the books. He cost millions to buy just two years ago.

    Has the world gone completely mad? I am beginning to really dislike Man City and everthing they now stand for. They used to be a solid city club with a loyal fanbase. They are now the folly of some Arab Shiek who wants a new toy. His spending is making Roman Abvramovich look like Tight Wad. Fingers crossed they win nothing this season.

    There was a time when you won a trophy, these people obviously think it is there to be bought.
    And on the same day the Blackpool chairman resigns due to lack of support for a wage cap. He was trying to run Blackpool sensibly, live within their means, but of course everyone is just hungry for success and money talks.

    Absolutely despise Man City.

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    Id rather have the German laddie Ozul (sp?) Ahead of Milner and he cost Real Madrid 12 million.
    Says it all really.
    Difference is, they wouldn't have a chance of signing ozil. He is A-league now while, while city have to signed mercenary players who are "alright".
    I'm sure the likes of Lescott and Adebayor won't give a hoot about getting a game tho, with all that time to spend their ever so hard earned cash

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    Difference is, they wouldn't have a chance of signing ozil. He is A-league now while, while city have to signed mercenary players who are "alright".
    I'm sure the likes of Lescott and Adebayor won't give a hoot about getting a game tho, with all that time to spend their ever so hard earned cash


    Players with real ambitions to play for top sides will always pick the AC Milans, Real Madrids, Manchester Utds and Barcelonas of the world ahead of the Manchester Citys and other 'manufactured' big clubs. The only player Man City have signed this summer that i would imagine had other teams really interested was David Silva.

    They will inevitaly win a trophy, possily even a league title out of this 'money no object. perioed but they are left with a totally unsustainable business and at the mercy of one man/family. Even Chelsea realised a long time ago that even with the backing of Abramovich they still had to get their business in order and summers that involved 100s of millions of pounds of transfer fees are finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby View Post
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    And on the same day the Blackpool chairman resigns due to lack of support for a wage cap. He was trying to run Blackpool sensibly, live within their means, but of course everyone is just hungry for success and money talks.

    Absolutely despise Man City.

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    Heard Barcelona have offered them Zlatan Ibrahimovic. Their spending is just getting ridicoulous now and it is spoiling the beautiful game, big time now.

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    The way they have gone about trying to achieve success is ridiculous, and just isnt going to work. The amount of egos at that club is going to be almost impossible to manage, and the amount of players for each position, who all arguably could be starting is never going to bring success.

    The money thing was quite entertaining at the start, seeing who they could bring in, but I am getting a bit fed up of them.

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    Agree - the money in top level football is disgusting IMHO.

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    And what exactly are Man City doing different than other clubs in the past other than scale?

    Chelsea spent very big to break into the upper escalons. Now they are moaning that another club is following the path they laid down. It seems to be a pull the drawbridge up mentality that would allow Chelsea and Man United to dominate English football for ever.

    Man City have a far better basic support over the years than Chelsea and more history for that matter.

    It is always going to cost more to attract top players when you are not a regular in the Champions' League.

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    Performance enhancing drug taking is outlawed in football. When is performance enhancing financial doping going to be treated the same?

    Anyone from FIFA / UEFA got the bottle for that one?

    And as for Man City - what will be the long term problems left for the heart and soul of the club (the fans) for the sake of some short term glory? Hope they enjoy it while it lasts. The precedents been set - look at Leeds and Portsmouth.

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    Got mixed feelings on City.

    On one hand I find the money they're spending ridiculous, it's actually obscene and wrong that a club would even think of giving someone 500k a week to kick a ball about. On the other hand every time I hear Alex Ferguson whinge that they're buying the title the sheer hypocricy of it all kind of makes you want to see City get it right up them.

    I'm not saying it's right because it isn't, but imagine you're a City fan from Manchester in your mid 30's who's club has never won a trophy in your lifetime. All your life smug United fans have laughed at your club and you've had nothing to work with whatsoever, every time someone slags City you have to just take it. Suddenly they're all royally ****ing themselves and crying foul, I don't know about you lot but I'd be loving it, and if they started actually winning things I'd find it hard to give a proverbial how much the club has spent.

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    Can there be anyone anywhere with any sense who thinks these outrageous amounts of money being paid to average quality footballers are justified?

    We all just put up with it like lambs.

    I really wouldn't mind if I thought the guys were worth it - someone like Best, Maradona, Cruyff etc whom you would cross the street to see and not grudge the money they earned. But there are blokes no one's ever heard of in the lower reaches of the Championship getting a king's ransom.

    Oh what's the use? It's a market blah blah....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory89 View Post
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    Got mixed feelings on City.

    On one hand I find the money they're spending ridiculous, it's actually obscene and wrong that a club would even think of giving someone 500k a week to kick a ball about. On the other hand every time I hear Alex Ferguson whinge that they're buying the title the sheer hypocricy of it all kind of makes you want to see City get it right up them.

    I'm not saying it's right because it isn't, but imagine you're a City fan from Manchester in your mid 30's who's club has never won a trophy in your lifetime. All your life smug United fans have laughed at your club and you've had nothing to work with whatsoever, every time someone slags City you have to just take it. Suddenly they're all royally ****ing themselves and crying foul, I don't know about you lot but I'd be loving it, and if they started actually winning things I'd find it hard to give a proverbial how much the club has spent.
    Ive supported City for as long as Ive supported Hibs which is over 20 years now.. Do you have any idea what it's been like watch United win trophy after trophy in that time ?? If you can't then , stop for a second and imagine if Hertz were winning trophies nearly every season....

    Our owners bought the club and want to spend there wads of cash ??? So what ???

    What would happen if Tom Farmer all of a sudden said , '' you know what , I am going to plough millions and millions of pounds into HIbs and make them compete with the OF '' What we would as Hibs fans do ?? Would we embrace this and let him have his wish or would we say ' No Sir Tom , don't bother , we don't want to win trophys every season , we're happy being mediocre and finishing 3rd at best''

    With this nefound wealth , brings new found critics who want us to fall.. Its part of the package now.... However , fans of teams such as Arsenal , Liverpool and more or less every other team in the EPL with the exception of maybe Chelski and Man United , would they would swap there financial positions with us any day of the week ??


    Of course they would.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by HibbyAndy View Post
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    Id rather have the German laddie Ozul (sp?) Ahead of Milner and he cost Real Madrid 12 million.
    Says it all really.
    or you could get Ozil and his midfielder partner in the WC Khadira (also signed by madrid this summer) for less than the £24m deal (sky sports states £16m cash + ireland £8m is the deal villa have got)

    Ic really really hope city dont win anything again, yes i am a united fan but, the fact they volleyed hughes into touch for too many draws, only for mancini to get just as many, there idiot of a chief executive going around new york shouting in a pub full of fans how they will be better than Man United ever could be!! then they go spend ridiculous money on quite frankly horrible players:

    Baletti for someone like Mourinho to say he has a bigger head than me, this guy must be off the chart and then goes on telly wearing his teams rivals strip what kind of fanny does that?

    Milner is good but not £24m worth thats for sure, theres alot better about when u think wesley snejder cost inter €15m only a year ago, and then if u double that after the season and world cup he had, is roughly the same price as milner...do me a favour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HibbyAndy View Post
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    Id rather have the German laddie Ozul (sp?) Ahead of Milner and he cost Real Madrid 12 million.
    Says it all really.
    Obviously City wouldn't have paid £24million but Real Madrid are in the Champions league.. City have to pay over the odds to get there players...

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    Not sure how accurate it is but read that Cardiff are paying 50% of 90k, how is this possible? A team with administration hanging over them who aren't even in the top flight..how is this possible! Only reason I can see is that the English game is about togo boom! Quite right too I'd say as team like Hibs try for years to balance the books,but what is the point if teams are allowed to just pile up debt like no tomorrow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PISTOL1875 View Post
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    Obviously City wouldn't have paid £24million but Real Madrid are in the Champions league.. City have to pay over the odds to get there players...
    nonsense, the clubs wont raise a price for the player because the team buying isnt in europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steviecarnie View Post
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    or you could get Ozil and his midfielder partner in the WC Khadira (also signed by madrid this summer) for less than the £24m deal (sky sports states £16m cash + ireland £8m is the deal villa have got)

    Ic really really hope city dont win anything again, yes i am a united fan but, the fact they volleyed hughes into touch for too many draws, only for mancini to get just as many, there idiot of a chief executive going around new york shouting in a pub full of fans how they will be better than Man United ever could be!! then they go spend ridiculous money on quite frankly horrible players:

    Baletti for someone like Mourinho to say he has a bigger head than me, this guy must be off the chart and then goes on telly wearing his teams rivals strip what kind of fanny does that?

    Milner is good but not £24m worth thats for sure, theres alot better about when u think wesley snejder cost inter €15m only a year ago, and then if u double that after the season and world cup he had, is roughly the same price as milner...do me a favour.

    Nuff Said.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by steviecarnie View Post
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    nonsense, the clubs wont raise a price for the player because the team buying isnt in europe.
    Of course they will raise there price... If City are interested then the club will set the bar at an inflated price... The same happened with Chelski when Abramovich took over.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by PISTOL1875 View Post
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    Of course they will raise there price... If City are interested then the club will set the bar at an inflated price... The same happened with Chelski when Abramovich took over.............
    yes but its got nothing to do with the champions league as u stated.

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    I hate the huge amonts of money being spent by the top clubs, or like Man City or Chelsea the newly minted clubs, because it forces other clubs to spent money they dont have just to have a slim hope of competing.

    I hate the massive wages, not because players shouldnt get the most they can out of the game, but because in reality they game doesnt generate the sort of money the players take out of it and that will end up a disaster for many clubs.

    But, for supporters of the likes of Man Utd or Arsenal or even Chelsea to start moaning about the disgusting amount of money being spent by City is total hypocracy. Wayne Rooney is on about 100k a week at Utd, do you think he would be there if Everton had been the club with the money instead of Utd I doubt it.

    And as for buying the league ..... Jack Walker did that at Blackburn years ago, its not exactly new.

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    People who say City are just doing what Man united and Chelsea have done are missing the picture.

    I think none of us have a problem with teams buying players and some can buy more than others. The issue with City is the scale of their club, the scale of their spending and the impact on the market. They basically have no real plan apart from spend spend spend.

    They have to buy for over the odds, as no-one really would choose them and pay way over the odds too. That inflates the market across the whole of football. Yes , Real do similar but they are operating at the elite end. City are spending real money on middling players. All this for a club with a support of about 30 odd thousand each week.

    Is this good? Are they losing players almost as quickly as they sign others - yes. Are they getting ripped off - yes. Have they any possibility of this model working - no. Basically they would have to grab a substancial part of the Man United support. Not going to happen.

    So far all this has got them.......... 5th place in the league woo hooo

    They have some good players but they also have misfits and players who are too ready to follow the money. Yes all players chase cash but not to the point that you would play for a second rate team in England, who have no history of winning and no champions league place. All this and they have to overcome , Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool, not to mention the other up and coming clubs like Spurs.

    Will they win anything? Will they self implode? Will the arabs get bored? Are they damaging football? I confess there are not many saints out there but City are by far the worse offender.
    And others are following this model to one degree or other. God help us all. Maybe only Arsene can save us from the madness by winning with his home improvement style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steviecarnie View Post
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    yes but its got nothing to do with the champions league as u stated.
    Yes it has. For example if City had tried to sign Ozil then City's asking price would have been a lot higher that Madrid's.... The reason being that the player wouldn't be playing in the CL.. Bremen would look at this and realise that City would happily pay that bit more for the player...

    Anyway , Ozil had a year left on his deal.. If he had 2 or 3 years left , do you honestly think he would've went for £12million ??? Not a hope....

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