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    Scott Brown Fit Again

    Yet again an O/F player crys off from International duty but is miraculously fit enough to play to-day


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    Thank the lord, goin by his performance so far in this match.

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    He should be banned from the national team for six months. Levein needs to set a precedent.

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    No chance levein will omit broon or any OF player for doing just that. Why a OF player would need to do something really daft like get steaming drunk a few days before a qualifier, then do obscene gestures to cameras. But that's just pure fantasy as our proud national players would never do such a thing

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    Brown has been AWOL first half

    Lennon should replace him 2nd half

    A stick on to be booked because he'll start to lose the head because he hasn't been in this game at any stage.

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    Potter doesn't have the nuts to do anything about it. Remember how angry he was about old firm refereeing bias in the GFA? He got awfy quiet when he was bought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bathhibby View Post
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    Yet again an O/F player crys off from International duty but is miraculously fit enough to play to-day
    Maybe the players thought the timing of the friendly was wrong?

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    Maybe the players thought the timing of the friendly was wrong?
    Not up to the players though is it ..i thought it was up to the Management ...wonder if Marshall played for Cardiff today ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyhibbie View Post
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    Not up to the players though is it ..i thought it was up to the Management ...wonder if Marshall played for Cardiff today ...
    Not sure about Marshall in goals.......

    With these friendlies is it not about trying other players in positions to see if the ycan produce at that level?

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    Not up to the players though is it ..i thought it was up to the Management ...wonder if Marshall played for Cardiff today ...
    He did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn View Post
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    Not sure about Marshall in goals.......

    With these friendlies is it not about trying other players in positions to see if the ycan produce at that level?
    I dunno mate, i thought he wanted his experienced players & the players you suggest to appear, too often we have had unwanted or needless call-offs from players much to the detriment of the team/nation etc ..

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    He did.
    Wonder if Levein will ban him then ...or choke on his own words when sprawled over the SFA table whilst getting his knackers felt...

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyhibbie View Post
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    I dunno mate, i thought he wanted his experienced players & the players you suggest to appear, too often we have had unwanted or needless call-offs from players much to the detriment of the team/nation etc ..

    Wonder if Levein will ban him then ...or choke on his own words when sprawled over the SFA table whilst getting his knackers felt...
    He did say he would ban Marshall if he turn out for Cardiff....

    Has Levein got the nerve to carry it out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn View Post
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    He did say he would ban Marshall if he turn out for Cardiff....

    Has Levein got the nerve to carry it out?
    That was for the midweek carling cup tie not todays game

    Also on the same subject Dorrans from WBA called off the friendly only to play tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn View Post
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    He did say he would ban Marshall if he turn out for Cardiff....

    Has Levein got the nerve to carry it out?
    Will be interesting ...i cant say i agree with it ..simply because there will be rules for some (we know who) & rules for others ...if he does then he has to do it across the board ..does he have the bottle..?...i doubt it ..

    Thing is too though ..he cant just go about threatening players wi never playing for the country again ..we dont have enough players to do that wi ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by H18sry View Post
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    That was for the midweek carling cup tie not todays game

    Also on the same subject Dorrans from WBA called off the friendly only to play tonight
    Well not sure of the rulings if any, but can an imposed ban occur if a player pulls out then plays for their club side?? Not sure if any action can be taken, after all the clubs pay the players wages after all..

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    That was for the midweek carling cup tie not todays game

    Also on the same subject Dorrans from WBA called off the friendly only to play tonight
    Dont know what the reference was for but anyway ..your a tartan army footsoldier ..what do you think of Leveins "stance" on this...?

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    AFAIK Scott Brown travelled and trained with the Scotland squad and it was decided by the SFA medical team that he shouldn't play. He remained with the squad and even commented on the game for Radio Scotland. It was not as if he just couldn't be arsed traveling (like Garry O'Connor who went on the bevvy rather than go with the squad to Georgia IIRC).

    David Marshall was agian sent home by the SFA team doctor and told not to play in Cardiff's Carling Cup game the same night as the Scotland game.

    I am no fan of Scott Brown however he and Marshall ca not be accused of any under hand behaviour on this occasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frazerbob View Post
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    AFAIK Scott Brown travelled and trained with the Scotland squad and it was decided by the SFA medical team that he shouldn't play. He remained with the squad and even commented on the game for Radio Scotland. It was not as if he just couldn't be arsed traveling (like Garry O'Connor who went on the bevvy rather than go with the squad to Georgia IIRC).

    David Marshall was agian sent home by the SFA team doctor and told not to play in Cardiff's Carling Cup game the same night as the Scotland game.

    I am no fan of Scott Brown however he and Marshall ca not be accused of any under hand behaviour on this occasion.
    Well that is the explanation I needed, cheers Fraser....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn View Post
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    Well not sure of the rulings if any, but can an imposed ban occur if a player pulls out then plays for their club side?? Not sure if any action can be taken, after all the clubs pay the players wages after all..
    Cardiff City asked the Scotland manager to release Marshall Levein said no, Marshall then pulls out with an elbow injury, Levein then tells Marshall that if he plays in the Carling cup on the same night as our game in Sweden that he will not play for Scotland again so therefor the action is between the SFA and the player, the same way Burley banned Ferguson and McGregor


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    Dont know what the reference was for but anyway ..your a tartan army footsoldier ..what do you think of Leveins "stance" on this...?
    My thoughts if a player pulls out of an International squad to play a club match on the same night, is the same as the managers, these are International dates and clubs have to release players on International dates.

    The reason for the is, as a poster I can put a smiley where ever I like or is that against your rules

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    [QUOTE=H18sry;2544601]Cardiff City asked the Scotland manager to release Marshall Levein said no, Marshall then pulls out with an elbow injury, Levein then tells Marshall that if he plays in the Carling cup on the same night as our game in Sweden that he will not play for Scotland again so therefor the action is between the SFA and the player, the same way Burley banned Ferguson and McGregor

    So do the SFA have the power to ban a player guilty of pulling out with injury, only to play for club side?

    Would have thought it would be a legal minefield in terms of proving the player was injured for the national game.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by H18sry View Post
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    Cardiff City asked the Scotland manager to release Marshall Levein said no, Marshall then pulls out with an elbow injury, Levein then tells Marshall that if he plays in the Carling cup on the same night as our game in Sweden that he will not play for Scotland again so therefor the action is between the SFA and the player, the same way Burley banned Ferguson and McGregor
    All corect except Marshall was withdrawn by the SFA team doctor. That is the crucial fact that means he wasn't "at it" IMO.

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    [QUOTE=Baldy Foghorn;2544605]
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    Cardiff City asked the Scotland manager to release Marshall Levein said no, Marshall then pulls out with an elbow injury, Levein then tells Marshall that if he plays in the Carling cup on the same night as our game in Sweden that he will not play for Scotland again so therefor the action is between the SFA and the player, the same way Burley banned Ferguson and McGregor

    So do the SFA have the power to ban a player guilty of pulling out with injury, only to play for club side?

    Would have thought it would be a legal minefield in terms of proving the player was injured for the national game.........
    It boils down to the fact that the club game was on the same night,so if you declare yourself unfit for International football surely you must be unfit for club football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frazerbob View Post
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    All corect except Marshall was withdrawn by the SFA team doctor. That is the crucial fact that means he wasn't "at it" IMO.
    I have no doubt he wasn't at it

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    Quote Originally Posted by H18sry View Post
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    Cardiff City asked the Scotland manager to release Marshall Levein said no, Marshall then pulls out with an elbow injury, Levein then tells Marshall that if he plays in the Carling cup on the same night as our game in Sweden that he will not play for Scotland again so therefor the action is between the SFA and the player, the same way Burley banned Ferguson and McGregor




    My thoughts if a player pulls out of an International squad to play a club match on the same night, is the same as the managers, these are International dates and clubs have to release players on International dates.

    The reason for the is, as a poster I can put a smiley where ever I like or is that against your rules
    No a very good reason but hey ..as a poster ..i can use smilies too ..:asshole:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frazerbob View Post
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    AFAIK Scott Brown travelled and trained with the Scotland squad and it was decided by the SFA medical team that he shouldn't play. He remained with the squad and even commented on the game for Radio Scotland. It was not as if he just couldn't be arsed traveling (like Garry O'Connor who went on the bevvy rather than go with the squad to Georgia IIRC).

    David Marshall was agian sent home by the SFA team doctor and told not to play in Cardiff's Carling Cup game the same night as the Scotland game.

    I am no fan of Scott Brown however he and Marshall ca not be accused of any under hand behaviour on this occasion.
    Wrong. He left the Scotland squad to spend time with his family after his sister had attemted suicide.

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    [QUOTE=H18sry;2544609]
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    It boils down to the fact that the club game was on the same night,so if you declare yourself unfit for International football surely you must be unfit for club football.
    I was thinking more about midweek international, then playing for club at weekend.....

    I understand if match is on same night, it would be unnacceptable to pull out of international squad, to play for club, but this is a rarish occurrence is it not, of club games and international games taking place on same night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyhibbie View Post
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    No a very good reason but hey ..as a poster ..i can use smilies too ..:asshole:
    But the difference is if I think your an :asshole: thats fine but if I call you an :asshole: as an admin you can ban me, so I wont call you an :asshole:, but it doesn't stop me thinking that your an :asshole:

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    [QUOTE=Baldy Foghorn;2544614]
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    I was thinking more about midweek international, then playing for club at weekend.....

    I understand if match is on same night, it would be unnacceptable to pull out of international squad, to play for club, but this is a rarish occurrence is it not, of club games and international games taking place on same night?
    With it being an international friendly the English championship held games the same night, it sometimes happens on International qualifing nights as well as top International team rarely call up players from lower division, but AFAIK if you have a certain number of players called up you can ask for your game to be postponed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H18sry View Post
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    But the difference is if I think your an :asshole: thats fine but if I call you an :asshole: as an admin you can ban me, so I wont call you an :asshole:, but it doesn't stop me thinking that your an :asshole:
    Good ..were agreed on something then eh ..

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    Yet again an O/F player crys off from International duty but is miraculously fit enough to play to-day
    And Graham Dorrans also withdrew from the Scotland squad and yet played for West Brom today!

    What's your point, caller

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