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06-08-2010 12:20 AM #31
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06-08-2010 12:24 AM #32
hogg is murder. the fact is hes played for hibs for 4/5 year and no other club wants to buy him says it all
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06-08-2010 12:27 AM #33
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06-08-2010 12:38 AM #35
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06-08-2010 12:53 AM #36This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I've been thinking that for the last few years. What happens to any half decent player at ER? They go elsewhere.
Riordan, O'Connor, Brown, Whittaker, Thomson, Jones, Murphy, have all been seen as good players but another manger. Alas, Hogg has not - QED.Last edited by broonie27; 06-08-2010 at 12:54 AM. Reason: Typo
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06-08-2010 12:53 AM #37This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-08-2010 02:25 AM #38
My god chris hogg isnt a great player but he was nowhere near the worst on the park. I am not his biggest fan but he stuck his head on everything tonight. If he gets dropped the problems dont go away.
I am more concerned with how many goals smith lets in and how uneasy the defence are due to him not shouting and making them panic.
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06-08-2010 03:33 AM #39
hogg will never win over people,but sadly his game since being made captain of got worse and worse every week so why should people change their mind. as for miller, yes he has played at some top clubs, but he soon got found out, he was a gamble signing, marquee if u like that quite simply hasnt come off, no one else wanted him
any how, i think hogg should be dropped,same with smith, thicot and brown to be given a run and then just sack yogi and bring back mixu - all is forgiven
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06-08-2010 05:46 AM #40
I really do not understand why Hogg plays week in week out as he is a total bomb scare at the back. He must be doing something special in training either that or he is Yogi's love child
Joking aside he has to be dropped again and told to find a new club and being realistic he could be a huge part of Yogi loosing his job in the long run if kept in the team. Yes there are other players in the team that are suspect but Hogg has been rank for a very long spell and I honestly can't remember when he had an outstanding game. The difference with the other suspects they have been known to have some good games ie Miller who was outstanding at the start of last season and dare I say it Rankin and Nish even though I think Rankin and Nish should move on too as there form is not consistent enough.
Hogg to me does not want to play for Hibs and is feeling the pressure of being captain. When you compare him even to our last captain Rob Jones he is night and day. I know Jones is not everyones cup of tea but at least he played with heart and mixed it up a bit with other players and bossed players around. I always loved how Jones used to noise certain players up including the likes of Hartley and Kenny Miller.
I think if Yogi dropped Hogg and gave someone like De Graff the captains band it might take some pressure of Yogi and also give maybe Thicot or Stephens a wee run in the team. I am in agreement with some of the posts Thicot has looked better than Hogg when he has played so why not play him and give him a run.
Time will tell but it is time for Yogi to start rocking the boat or Yogi will be sacked by Christmas or maybe sooner if he does not start making major changes now
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06-08-2010 07:22 AM #41This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-08-2010 07:31 AM #42
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06-08-2010 07:35 AM #43This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Now that is a GOOD post which is, at least, factual!
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06-08-2010 07:38 AM #44
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06-08-2010 07:52 AM #45
i think we scored about 54 last year, but we had a + factor of maybe 2
what has JH done to rectify the problem?????? Hart and an 18 year old, do me a favor,
FFS, JH was a former CH +LEADER on the park, what exactly, do they do at east mains????
hoggy is getting it big time, but the WHOLE defence needs looked at
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06-08-2010 09:06 AM #46
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06-08-2010 09:10 AM #48
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06-08-2010 09:10 AM #49This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-08-2010 09:13 AM #50This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
A wind up or a Yam wanting Hoggy to stay in the team.
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06-08-2010 09:25 AM #51This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Are we really saying all these managers are wrong and faceless wonders of .net are correct ?
Think about it
FWIW i have reservations about Hogg as captain & he certainly is no world beater, but he's a capable Centrehalf with SPL experience and as such is worth a place in our team, he also (like Caldwell) takes responsibility and has a good attitude, qualities which few fans appreciate but quite clearly Managers do.
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06-08-2010 09:26 AM #52
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06-08-2010 09:33 AM #53
Hogg was murder polis. His distribution left little to be desired and had a heid like a fifty pence piece last night. When he did head it straight it was weak and mostly to a Maribor player.
It was summed up when his mis judged the ball again, had to then chase the player up the wing and made a comical challenge and fell over himself - comical genuis.
Lets see this new boy Stephens at CH. I dont want fancy defenders, just basics of defence by head or feet...leave the fancy stuff to midfield....but again thats another post
New Captain Please!!!
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06-08-2010 09:37 AM #54
Never in my life have I ever seen a club captain of any football club so low on confidence.
I think Hogg needs to realise that he's doing himself and the team no favours by remaining captain.
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06-08-2010 09:40 AM #55
I feel sorry for Hogg and think he's suffering like Stephen McManus did latterly at Celtic.
Guys like that patch themselves up to play for the team when they are clearly not fit. It's OK doing it for the odd time but the longer it goes on the more damage you do to yourself and the more your reputation suffers because you're obviously not performing at 100%. I've seen him so often after games at ER barely even able to hobble out to his car and I wonder how many others in the team would show the same commitment.
I don't think he's particularly great, but he's a model pro who has never let the club down in my eyes. He deserves to be in the team until we sign someone better (as with all players) and I don't believe there's anyone in the squad, at present, ready to step in. Some of the cheap jibes aimed at him are pathetic IMHO.
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06-08-2010 09:49 AM #56This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-08-2010 09:59 AM #57
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Hogg's form has been poor of late and his distribution very similar to the hoof ball played by our inferior neighbours. One thing ive noticed since turn of the year though that McBride and especially Miller rarely demand the ball from Hogg when he has it. They are more than willing to either take it and play it straight back, or let him lump it up the park to no one inparticular!
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06-08-2010 10:04 AM #58This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-08-2010 11:32 AM #60
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Get armband of him
There is o way he should be captain, it was an awful decision. Last year i would have given it to murray, but we can't guarantee this year he'll be a permanent starter, IMO i would give it to Miller.
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