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[Speedway]

Sorry to spoil the hate party girls but Yogi didn't get it wrong last night.

The yams are deluded but so are we. What did you think would have happened if Stokes and Riordan had started last night. I mean really think about it. What would have happened?

That's right.

Now that piece of propaganda is out of the way, let's deal with uncomfortable fact number 2. The yams are only slightly more deluded than us.

Last night, we aimed to keep the ball off Maribor, let them chase it, knacker them out and then put the attackers on later in the game. How does Murray and Wotherspoon falling on their ***** and costing us goals constitute poor tactics?

Hibs were told to keep the ball and move it forward. Instead we moved it backwards to players who weren't comfortable moving it around. When we did move it forward we gave it away. That's what you get for having Rankin in your side (The worst culprit).

The main board constant witch hunt for every manager we've ever had in the internet age is boring and makes us look like the ***** that we are. That said, I do realise that there were a number of yams on last night egging us on with posting the whole Yogi = clown thing. The problem is, we've fallen for it.

No-one here seems to know much about football from a tactical perspective, yet somehow become qualified to talk about tactics as if they have their UEFA badges.

Yogi gets slated for trying to play Barcaball because 'we don't have the players' but we then expect Brazilian style flair football (as if all of a sudden, we've got the players for that ) and anything else, be it Yogi, Mixu or Collins in charge has been 'eye-bleeding'

Someone last night posted 'who the .... are Maribor anyway?' showing our true ignorance and arrogance. The question should be 'Who the .... are Hibs?' Oh that's right, we won three league titles 50+ years ago WHOOPIE DOOOO.

Time to wake up...really it's time.

[Northfield Hibby]

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Sorry to spoil the hate party girls but Yogi didn't get it wrong last night.

The yams are deluded but so are we. What did you think would have happened if Stokes and Riordan had started last night. I mean really think about it. What would have happened?

That's right.

Now that piece of propaganda is out of the way, let's deal with uncomfortable fact number 2. The yams are only slightly more deluded than us.

Last night, we aimed to keep the ball off Maribor, let them chase it, knacker them out and then put the attackers on later in the game. How does Murray and Wotherspoon falling on their ***** and costing us goals constitute poor tactics?

Hibs were told to keep the ball and move it forward. Instead we moved it backwards to players who weren't comfortable moving it around. When we did move it forward we gave it away. That's what you get for having Rankin in your side (The worst culprit).

The main board constant witch hunt for every manager we've ever had in the internet age is boring and makes us look like the ***** that we are. That said, I do realise that there were a number of yams on last night egging us on with posting the whole Yogi = clown thing. The problem is, we've fallen for it.

No-one here seems to know much about football from a tactical perspective, yet somehow become qualified to talk about tactics as if they have their UEFA badges.

Yogi gets slated for trying to play Barcaball because 'we don't have the players' but we then expect Brazilian style flair football (as if all of a sudden, we've got the players for that ) and anything else, be it Yogi, Mixu or Collins in charge has been 'eye-bleeding'

Someone last night posted 'who the .... are Maribor anyway?' showing our true ignorance and arrogance. The question should be 'Who the .... are Hibs?' Oh that's right, we won three league titles 50+ years ago WHOOPIE DOOOO.

Time to wake up...really it's time.

Agree 100%

They were a far better side than us, time to accept the facts.

[Underdose]

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Sorry to spoil the hate party girls but Yogi didn't get it wrong last night.

The yams are deluded but so are we. What did you think would have happened if Stokes and Riordan had started last night. I mean really think about it. What would have happened?

That's right.

Now that piece of propaganda is out of the way, let's deal with uncomfortable fact number 2. The yams are only slightly more deluded than us.

Last night, we aimed to keep the ball off Maribor, let them chase it, knacker them out and then put the attackers on later in the game. How does Murray and Wotherspoon falling on their ***** and costing us goals constitute poor tactics?

Hibs were told to keep the ball and move it forward. Instead we moved it backwards to players who weren't comfortable moving it around. When we did move it forward we gave it away. That's what you get for having Rankin in your side (The worst culprit).

The main board constant witch hunt for every manager we've ever had in the internet age is boring and makes us look like the ***** that we are. That said, I do realise that there were a number of yams on last night egging us on with posting the whole Yogi = clown thing. The problem is, we've fallen for it.

No-one here seems to know much about football from a tactical perspective, yet somehow become qualified to talk about tactics as if they have their UEFA badges.

Yogi gets slated for trying to play Barcaball because 'we don't have the players' but we then expect Brazilian style flair football (as if all of a sudden, we've got the players for that ) and anything else, be it Yogi, Mixu or Collins in charge has been 'eye-bleeding'

Someone last night posted 'who the .... are Maribor anyway?' showing our true ignorance and arrogance. The question should be 'Who the .... are Hibs?' Oh that's right, we won three league titles 50+ years ago WHOOPIE DOOOO.

Time to wake up...really it's time.

Well said that man.

To be calling for the managers head after one competitive game of the season is ridiculous and something I would expect from kickback...

[DaveF]

Great post Speedway.

[matty_f]

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Sorry to spoil the hate party girls but Yogi didn't get it wrong last night.

The yams are deluded but so are we. What did you think would have happened if Stokes and Riordan had started last night. I mean really think about it. What would have happened?

That's right.

Now that piece of propaganda is out of the way, let's deal with uncomfortable fact number 2. The yams are only slightly more deluded than us.

Last night, we aimed to keep the ball off Maribor, let them chase it, knacker them out and then put the attackers on later in the game. How does Murray and Wotherspoon falling on their ***** and costing us goals constitute poor tactics?

Hibs were told to keep the ball and move it forward. Instead we moved it backwards to players who weren't comfortable moving it around. When we did move it forward we gave it away. That's what you get for having Rankin in your side (The worst culprit).

The main board constant witch hunt for every manager we've ever had in the internet age is boring and makes us look like the ***** that we are. That said, I do realise that there were a number of yams on last night egging us on with posting the whole Yogi = clown thing. The problem is, we've fallen for it.

No-one here seems to know much about football from a tactical perspective, yet somehow become qualified to talk about tactics as if they have their UEFA badges.

Yogi gets slated for trying to play Barcaball because 'we don't have the players' but we then expect Brazilian style flair football (as if all of a sudden, we've got the players for that ) and anything else, be it Yogi, Mixu or Collins in charge has been 'eye-bleeding'

Someone last night posted 'who the .... are Maribor anyway?' showing our true ignorance and arrogance. The question should be 'Who the .... are Hibs?' Oh that's right, we won three league titles 50+ years ago WHOOPIE DOOOO.

Time to wake up...really it's time.

Take a bow Speedway - terrific post.

[banarc7062]

Agree with the comments made. This was also Yogi's first European competative venture.

[IWasThere2016]

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Sorry to spoil the hate party girls but Yogi didn't get it wrong last night.

The scoreline says different.

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The yams are deluded but so are we. What did you think would have happened if Stokes and Riordan had started last night. I mean really think about it. What would have happened?.

More shots on target?

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Now that piece of propaganda is out of the way, let's deal with uncomfortable fact number 2. The yams are only slightly more deluded than us..

Yes - the Yaks have plenty to worry about. But let's not think all is rosy for us.

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Last night, we aimed to keep the ball off Maribor, let them chase it, knacker them out and then put the attackers on later in the game. How does Murray and Wotherspoon falling on their ***** and costing us goals constitute poor tactics?

Hibs were told to keep the ball and move it forward. Instead we moved it backwards to players who weren't comfortable moving it around. When we did move it forward we gave it away. That's what you get for having Rankin in your side (The worst culprit)...

We will always lose daft goals - most sides do. The key is how we respond ..

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The main board constant witch hunt for every manager we've ever had in the internet age is boring and makes us look like the ***** that we are. That said, I do realise that there were a number of yams on last night egging us on with posting the whole Yogi = clown thing. The problem is, we've fallen for it.

It was/is not all Yaks .. an increasing number of ('not real') Hibs fans are/have lost faith in the manager.

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No-one here seems to know much about football from a tactical perspective, yet somehow become qualified to talk about tactics as if they have their UEFA badges.

I disagree - I am often impressed at posters' views on the game; and if we stop opinions on the game, how it is played, who should play, where they should play etc .. then this board is dead.

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Yogi gets slated for trying to play Barcaball because 'we don't have the players' but we then expect Brazilian style flair football (as if all of a sudden, we've got the players for that ) and anything else, be it Yogi, Mixu or Collins in charge has been 'eye-bleeding'

Someone last night posted 'who the .... are Maribor anyway?' showing our true ignorance and arrogance. The question should be 'Who the .... are Hibs?' Oh that's right, we won three league titles 50+ years ago WHOOPIE DOOOO.

Time to wake up...really it's time.

Correct - we are massive underachievers .. does that mean we should accept poor performances, poor tactics, poor players, poor management?

[RoYO!]

Agreed, fact remains that the Maribor team is full of technical, fully fit, v good players. The three goals were taken with some real aplomb- excellent finishes.

Anyone calling for yogis head with less than 50 posts say- has got to be reekin of yam, no?

[IWasThere2016]

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Agreed, fact remains that the Maribor team is full of technical, fully fit, v good players. The three goals were taken with some real aplomb- excellent finishes.

Anyone calling for yogis head with less than 50 posts say- has got to be reekin of yam, no?

Every chance

[ahibby]

I disagree. Yogi's approach to this game was wrong; how can you pass the ball forward with confidence when the one player you have up front doesn't hold the ball? One up remember not three or even two, so how in gods name is a team expected to pass the ball forward? I don't see many attack minded midfielders in that starting line up so exactly who is the ball going to be passed forward too? You say he wanted the ball passed forward but he doesn't give them good options to aim for. His saving grace is likely going to be that not many Scottish teams will put the ball away like last night and won't exploit our weakness and you guys will be able to say 'told you so', but don't forget St Johnstone and Hamilton away have still to come.

[JCHibby]

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Sorry to spoil the hate party girls but Yogi didn't get it wrong last night.

The yams are deluded but so are we. What did you think would have happened if Stokes and Riordan had started last night. I mean really think about it. What would have happened?

That's right.

Now that piece of propaganda is out of the way, let's deal with uncomfortable fact number 2. The yams are only slightly more deluded than us.

Last night, we aimed to keep the ball off Maribor, let them chase it, knacker them out and then put the attackers on later in the game. How does Murray and Wotherspoon falling on their ***** and costing us goals constitute poor tactics?

Hibs were told to keep the ball and move it forward. Instead we moved it backwards to players who weren't comfortable moving it around. When we did move it forward we gave it away. That's what you get for having Rankin in your side (The worst culprit).

The main board constant witch hunt for every manager we've ever had in the internet age is boring and makes us look like the ***** that we are. That said, I do realise that there were a number of yams on last night egging us on with posting the whole Yogi = clown thing. The problem is, we've fallen for it.

No-one here seems to know much about football from a tactical perspective, yet somehow become qualified to talk about tactics as if they have their UEFA badges.

Yogi gets slated for trying to play Barcaball because 'we don't have the players' but we then expect Brazilian style flair football (as if all of a sudden, we've got the players for that ) and anything else, be it Yogi, Mixu or Collins in charge has been 'eye-bleeding'

Someone last night posted 'who the .... are Maribor anyway?' showing our true ignorance and arrogance. The question should be 'Who the .... are Hibs?' Oh that's right, we won three league titles 50+ years ago WHOOPIE DOOOO.

Time to wake up...really it's time.

Spot On - posted something last night and got cained for it. Still do not think this tie is dead, if we get an early goal and make it a noisy environment then game on.

Wonder if everyone will still be calling for Yogis heed if we end up third this season....

[Speedway]

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The scoreline says different.

So a defeat for any team is down to poor tactics?

More shots on target?

Nope, ball would never have got that far up the pitch.

Yes - the Yaks have plenty to worry about. But let's not think all is rosy for us.



We will always lose daft goals - most sides do. The key is how we respond ..



It was/is not all Yaks .. an increasing number of ('not real') Hibs fans are/have lost faith in the manager.

They lose faith in every manager we have after the first 10 seconds anyway. That's no measure of reality. They'll do the same with the next one.

I disagree - I am often impressed at posters' views on the game; and if we stop opinions on the game, how it is played, who should play, where they should play etc .. then this board is dead.

No bad thing.


Correct - we are massive underachievers .. does that mean we should accept poor performances, poor tactics, poor players, poor management?

Turn that question around. Size of club that we are, what gives us the right to expect superb performances, expert tactics, class players and sought after management?

Who in our league and country has those things?

[Beefster]

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Well said that man.

To be calling for the managers head after one competitive game of the season is ridiculous and something I would expect from kickback...

You don't think the last 5 months of last season contributed to the calls at all?

[Big Frank]

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Sorry to spoil the hate party girls but Yogi didn't get it wrong last night.

Sorry to piss on your firework speedway, but in the main, yes, Yogi and Rice got it wrong last nite.

The yams are deluded but so are we. What did you think would have happened if Stokes and Riordan had started last night. I mean really think about it. What would have happened?

Whooah the beans big man. We would have had an out ball. We would have had a far higher chance of a goal. To put 40+ goals on the bench for nish is criminal. (FFS speedway, Maribor needed to put one defender on nish and one off nish, thats the Hibernian "threat" nullified right there and then. Now the have an extra couple of defenders who can push up at will. When we don't have the ball we have our much vaunted 5 across the middle playing 6!)

That's right.

Whats right?

Now that piece of propaganda is out of the way, let's deal with uncomfortable fact number 2. The yams are only slightly more deluded than us.

Its only propaganda in your head.
That does not change the fact theat we are collectively deluded But nowhere, and I mean nowhere NEAR yammish delusion

Last night, we aimed to keep the ball off Maribor, let them chase it, knacker them out and then put the attackers on later in the game. How does Murray and Wotherspoon falling on their ***** and costing us goals constitute poor tactics?

They constitute poor tactics, because to play this way we need the players to be able to play keep ball. You can only pee with the pecker you have.

Hibs were told to keep the ball and move it forward. Instead we moved it backwards to players who weren't comfortable moving it around.

Correct. So why employ this style of football?

When we did move it forward we gave it away. That's what you get for having Rankin in your side (The worst culprit).

Spot on.

The main board constant witch hunt for every manager we've ever had in the internet age is boring and makes us look like the ***** that we are.

If the manager is consistantly awful, he needs to go. We all want the best for Hibernian. If any manager is inept, he shouldn't have some sort of immunity becasue the previous manager(s) were crap.

That said, I do realise that there were a number of yams on last night egging us on with posting the whole Yogi = clown thing. The problem is, we've fallen for it.

Spot on. The board reeked with them. It got so as I had to tell one of them to throw some ***** at themself


No-one here seems to know much about football from a tactical perspective, yet somehow become qualified to talk about tactics as if they have their UEFA badges.

I'm pretty sure Hibs net would be fairly boring if the fans were not allowed to talk tactics. You never talked tactics in the pub wi your mates? Silly thing to say IMO.

Yogi gets slated for trying to play Barcaball because 'we don't have the players' but we then expect Brazilian style flair football (as if all of a sudden, we've got the players for that ) and anything else, be it Yogi, Mixu or Collins in charge has been 'eye-bleeding'

Who's expecting Brazilian style football?. A yam myth that you've fallen for. Hibernina fans surely wish for a decent performance, players playing for with pride for the jersey. We can all accept players having off days. To suggest the Hibs support is looking for samba football is nonsense.

Someone last night posted 'who the .... are Maribor anyway?' showing our true ignorance and arrogance.

No really speedway. Maribor aren't a name in European football. You are as ignorant as me and the next man on teams who play in different countries. We are all ignorant to a degree. Sometimes you need a bit of arrogance in football.



The question should be 'Who the .... are Hibs?'

A proud club, with a European record that most teams in the United Kingdom bar the top 10 english clubs, and the OF and "new firm" in Scotland would love.

Oh that's right, we won three league titles 50+ years ago WHOOPIE DOOOO.

Have we to be embarrassed about our previous success now? The embarrassment should be directed at "the now", not the past.




Time to wake up...really it's time.

Which means what exactly? Wake up, were *****, no Scottish Football is *****.

Lets all fold and we can look forward to XFactor and Britains Got Talent on a Saturday.

[Speedway]

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I disagree. Yogi's approach to this game was wrong; how can you pass the ball forward with confidence when the one player you have up front doesn't hold the ball? One up remember not three or even two, so how in gods name is a team expected to pass the ball forward? I don't see many attack minded midfielders in that starting line up so exactly who is the ball going to be passed forward too? You say he wanted the ball passed forward but he doesn't give them good options to aim for. His saving grace is likely going to be that not many Scottish teams will put the ball away like last night and won't exploit our weakness and you guys will be able to say 'told you so', but don't forget St Johnstone and Hamilton away have still to come.

Wotherspoon, De Graff, Miller and Rankin are all supposed to be 'attacking players' and were supposed to put the ball in the box for Nish. Did you see this happening?

[johnrebus]

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Sorry to spoil the hate party girls but Yogi didn't get it wrong last night.

The yams are deluded but so are we. What did you think would have happened if Stokes and Riordan had started last night. I mean really think about it. What would have happened?

That's right.

Now that piece of propaganda is out of the way, let's deal with uncomfortable fact number 2. The yams are only slightly more deluded than us.

Last night, we aimed to keep the ball off Maribor, let them chase it, knacker them out and then put the attackers on later in the game. How does Murray and Wotherspoon falling on their ***** and costing us goals constitute poor tactics?

Hibs were told to keep the ball and move it forward. Instead we moved it backwards to players who weren't comfortable moving it around. When we did move it forward we gave it away. That's what you get for having Rankin in your side (The worst culprit).

The main board constant witch hunt for every manager we've ever had in the internet age is boring and makes us look like the ***** that we are. That said, I do realise that there were a number of yams on last night egging us on with posting the whole Yogi = clown thing. The problem is, we've fallen for it.

No-one here seems to know much about football from a tactical perspective, yet somehow become qualified to talk about tactics as if they have their UEFA badges.

Yogi gets slated for trying to play Barcaball because 'we don't have the players' but we then expect Brazilian style flair football (as if all of a sudden, we've got the players for that ) and anything else, be it Yogi, Mixu or Collins in charge has been 'eye-bleeding'

Someone last night posted 'who the .... are Maribor anyway?' showing our true ignorance and arrogance. The question should be 'Who the .... are Hibs?' Oh that's right, we won three league titles 50+ years ago WHOOPIE DOOOO.

Time to wake up...really it's time.

This really has to be the biggest ever 'knee jerk reaction', post.

On the back of one bad result suddenly everything Hibernian is rotten to the core.

The manager is to blame, the players are to blame, the board is to blame and the fans are to blame.

Your right of course, why don't we all just trudge round Tesco on a Saturday afternoon instead?

Or maybe follow Chelsea/Man Utd/Barca/Inter etc. etc.

Get a grip.

[Big Frank]

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Wotherspoon, De Graff, Miller and Rankin are all supposed to be 'attacking players' and were supposed to put the ball in the box for Nish. Did you see this happening?

When last night was nish in the box?

When has Rankin been an "attacking" player?

[Speedway]

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Spot On - posted something last night and got cained for it. Still do not think this tie is dead, if we get an early goal and make it a noisy environment then game on.

Wonder if everyone will still be calling for Yogis heed if we end up third this season....

Of course they won't. They'll lie low and wait for something to go wrong. Defeat is the motivating factor for them.

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Which means what exactly? Wake up, were *****, no Scottish Football is *****.

Lets all fold and we can look forward to XFactor and Britains Got Talent on a Saturday.

I can't quote your answers Big Frank, so I'll just touch on one of your points. The manager being 'inept' is subjective based on the fan's view of where they think we should be. Hughes turned Mowbray over at ER. Mixu might turn Yogi over this year. The manager is only 'inept' because we think we should be something we're not and have no divine right to be.

As for a proud club with a European record to be proud of - come on!! Give it ten years and they'll be few of us knocking around who were alive for this enviable European record of ours (except for Johnnyboy C, he's immortal.) The Dons have a proper claim to that, having beaten Real mMdrid in the CWC Final but even harking back to that is going to look desperate in a few years time. It's knocking on for 30 years ago as it is.

The song should change to 'If you know you're history, it's enough to let you know what little we've had to shout about for half a decade'.

Though I admit the words wouldn't fit into the melody very well.

[PotsyHibee]

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Sorry to spoil the hate party girls but Yogi didn't get it wrong last night.

The yams are deluded but so are we. What did you think would have happened if Stokes and Riordan had started last night. I mean really think about it. What would have happened?

That's right.

Now that piece of propaganda is out of the way, let's deal with uncomfortable fact number 2. The yams are only slightly more deluded than us.

Last night, we aimed to keep the ball off Maribor, let them chase it, knacker them out and then put the attackers on later in the game. How does Murray and Wotherspoon falling on their ***** and costing us goals constitute poor tactics?

Hibs were told to keep the ball and move it forward. Instead we moved it backwards to players who weren't comfortable moving it around. When we did move it forward we gave it away. That's what you get for having Rankin in your side (The worst culprit).

The main board constant witch hunt for every manager we've ever had in the internet age is boring and makes us look like the ***** that we are. That said, I do realise that there were a number of yams on last night egging us on with posting the whole Yogi = clown thing. The problem is, we've fallen for it.

No-one here seems to know much about football from a tactical perspective, yet somehow become qualified to talk about tactics as if they have their UEFA badges.

Yogi gets slated for trying to play Barcaball because 'we don't have the players' but we then expect Brazilian style flair football (as if all of a sudden, we've got the players for that ) and anything else, be it Yogi, Mixu or Collins in charge has been 'eye-bleeding'

Someone last night posted 'who the .... are Maribor anyway?' showing our true ignorance and arrogance. The question should be 'Who the .... are Hibs?' Oh that's right, we won three league titles 50+ years ago WHOOPIE DOOOO.

Time to wake up...really it's time.

This is one of the problems with Hibs, we get on the backs the Management/squad after one poor result, adding to the pressure they are already under.

Lets just get behind the team and see what happens!

[Borders Hibby]

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Sorry to spoil the hate party girls but Yogi didn't get it wrong last night.

The yams are deluded but so are we. What did you think would have happened if Stokes and Riordan had started last night. I mean really think about it. What would have happened?

That's right.

Now that piece of propaganda is out of the way, let's deal with uncomfortable fact number 2. The yams are only slightly more deluded than us.

Last night, we aimed to keep the ball off Maribor, let them chase it, knacker them out and then put the attackers on later in the game. How does Murray and Wotherspoon falling on their ***** and costing us goals constitute poor tactics?

Hibs were told to keep the ball and move it forward. Instead we moved it backwards to players who weren't comfortable moving it around. When we did move it forward we gave it away. That's what you get for having Rankin in your side (The worst culprit).

The main board constant witch hunt for every manager we've ever had in the internet age is boring and makes us look like the ***** that we are. That said, I do realise that there were a number of yams on last night egging us on with posting the whole Yogi = clown thing. The problem is, we've fallen for it.

No-one here seems to know much about football from a tactical perspective, yet somehow become qualified to talk about tactics as if they have their UEFA badges.

Yogi gets slated for trying to play Barcaball because 'we don't have the players' but we then expect Brazilian style flair football (as if all of a sudden, we've got the players for that ) and anything else, be it Yogi, Mixu or Collins in charge has been 'eye-bleeding'

Someone last night posted 'who the .... are Maribor anyway?' showing our true ignorance and arrogance. The question should be 'Who the .... are Hibs?' Oh that's right, we won three league titles 50+ years ago WHOOPIE DOOOO.

Time to wake up...really it's time.

Perspective at last! I havent looked it up but I would guarantee Maribor have played more European football over the last 5 years.

The deeper problem that baffles me is that Scottish football clubs get good crowds, we pay premium wages yet get beat by clubs with far lower income streams. How do they do this? What is wrong with our game? Are players paid to much, is the coaching poor? Last night is a symtom, what is the cause.

I dont think Hughes is perfect but he has to work with the system, maybe it is the system that is wrong. Long term the futures still bright and can we plase stop talking about our neighbours to judge ourselves.

[RIP]

Brilliant post

Celtic getting humped by the same scoreline made me fearful of a doing last night. That team were fast and already much superior to us in terms of shape and fitness. They were playing at home and already two legs of European fitba under their belts

Let's make the second leg a real occasion regardless of the eventual scoreline. It's about showing character, restoring pride and giving a good account of ourselves.

We supporters have a challenge on Thursday to make sure we give the team 100% backing. Fair do's if some posters want to have a pop at the manager and players on the internet but the personal abuse we saw last year on the terracing has to be countered.

Let's cheer on the boys and give them a lift with what we do best - support the team

Glory Glory

[Edinburgh Green]

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Sorry to spoil the hate party girls but Yogi didn't get it wrong last night.

The yams are deluded but so are we. What did you think would have happened if Stokes and Riordan had started last night. I mean really think about it. What would have happened?

That's right.

Now that piece of propaganda is out of the way, let's deal with uncomfortable fact number 2. The yams are only slightly more deluded than us.

Last night, we aimed to keep the ball off Maribor, let them chase it, knacker them out and then put the attackers on later in the game. How does Murray and Wotherspoon falling on their ***** and costing us goals constitute poor tactics?

Hibs were told to keep the ball and move it forward. Instead we moved it backwards to players who weren't comfortable moving it around. When we did move it forward we gave it away. That's what you get for having Rankin in your side (The worst culprit).

The main board constant witch hunt for every manager we've ever had in the internet age is boring and makes us look like the ***** that we are. That said, I do realise that there were a number of yams on last night egging us on with posting the whole Yogi = clown thing. The problem is, we've fallen for it.

No-one here seems to know much about football from a tactical perspective, yet somehow become qualified to talk about tactics as if they have their UEFA badges.

Yogi gets slated for trying to play Barcaball because 'we don't have the players' but we then expect Brazilian style flair football (as if all of a sudden, we've got the players for that ) and anything else, be it Yogi, Mixu or Collins in charge has been 'eye-bleeding'

Someone last night posted 'who the .... are Maribor anyway?' showing our true ignorance and arrogance. The question should be 'Who the .... are Hibs?' Oh that's right, we won three league titles 50+ years ago WHOOPIE DOOOO.

Time to wake up...really it's time.

We struggled to pass and keep the ball with 5 in midfield, hate to of seen how we'd of coped with 4 or even 3 there.

[Speedway]

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This really has to be the biggest ever 'knee jerk reaction', post.

On the back of one bad result suddenly everything Hibernian is rotten to the core.

The manager is to blame, the players are to blame, the board is to blame and the fans are to blame.

Your right of course, why don't we all just trudge round Tesco on a Saturday afternoon instead?

Or maybe follow Chelsea/Man Utd/Barca/Inter etc. etc.

Get a grip.

There's nothing sudden about it.

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When last night was nish in the box?

When has Rankin been an "attacking" player?

Quite, on both points; showing that what the players are supposed to be doing and what they're actually capable of, are two separate things.

Wotherspoon was trying to play Nish into the box, as was Hart. Rankin was supposed to be putting corners into the box for Nish.

[lucky]

I don't think Yogi should be sacked or hounded out I would give him another two season to get it right. It takes time to build a football club. However last night I think he got it wrong. He allowed his football philosophy to to over rule his judgement.

The players we have at present are not comfortable receiving the ball with an opposition player within two yards. Hibs should have played to their strengths and that is attacking. Stokes and Riordan are our prize assets, yet for a big match, they were both left on the bench.

I also question the fact that Murray, Hogg, Nish and Rankin are good enough to play Yogis (holland/spain/Brazil style) of football.

But lets keep things in perspective Celtic got cuffed, Rangers are having a fire sale, Dons have had a terrible pre-season, Hearts are in meltdown and Dundee utd have also lost players.

This will not be a vintage year for Scottish football but I do think Hibs will be okay again this year. But we are not the big club many believe we are 3 league wins fifty years ago and 3 league cups in forty years back this up.

Yet the infrastructure at ER is all in place now. all we need is a team that can pass and fans with understanding

[Speedway]

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This is one of the problems with Hibs, we get on the backs the Management/squad after one poor result, adding to the pressure they are already under.

Lets just get behind the team and see what happens!

9 years on this board tells me that there are many fan(atic)s on this board but compatively few 'support' -ers

[ahibby]

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Wotherspoon, De Graff, Miller and Rankin are all supposed to be 'attacking players' and were supposed to put the ball in the box for Nish. Did you see this happening?

Wotherspoon, fair enough could be regarded as an attacking midfielder but last season spent most of his time at right back so I'd forgive him and other players for mistaking him for a defending midfielder. De Graff, I dunno but from video clips granted he looks like an attacking option. Miller and Rankin well I disagree that they are attacking midfielders and neither have so much pace that they can get from in front of Hibs box and in to attacking positions to receive. I'm not blaming players though as we have to work with what we have. Yogi sent them out to do a job which didn't pay dividends so he takes the blame, that's how I see it. Whether Hibs and Scottish football are so bad I don't know but I don't have the confidence you seem to have in our manager. He is passionate for sure but I don't see many other redeeming features there.

[Speedway]

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I don't think Yogi should be sacked or hounded out I would give him another two season to get it right. It takes time to build a football club. However last night I think he got it wrong. He allowed his football philosophy to to over rule his judgement.

The players we have at present are not comfortable receiving the ball with an opposition player within two yards. Hibs should have played to their strengths and that is attacking. Stokes and Riordan are our prize assets, yet for a big match, they were both left on the bench.

I also question the fact that Murray, Hogg, Nish and Rankin are good enough to play Yogis (holland/spain/Brazil style) of football.

But lets keep things in perspective Celtic got cuffed, Rangers are having a fire sale, Dons have had a terrible pre-season, Hearts are in meltdown and Dundee utd have also lost players.

This will not be a vintage year for Scottish football but I do think Hibs will be okay again this year. But we are not the big club many believe we are 3 league wins fifty years ago and 3 league cups in forty years back this up.

Yet the infrastructure at ER is all in place now. all we need is a team that can pass and fans with understanding

I know what you're saying Lucky, but if we can't keep the ball off them with five in midfield, and Stokes in particular isn't known for his trackback skills; Maribor would have walked throughand three or four man midfield and over run us with home advantage. No point having strikers on if we're not going to see much of the ball to get it to them.

The idea was right last night, the execution by our playing staff was not and like it or not, the inherited players are the worst culprits. Yogi has signed better quality, on the whole.

[SlickShoes]

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9 years on this board tells me that there are many fan(atic)s on this board but compatively few 'support' -ers

I dont know about that.

I will whinge on a message board and be gutted hibs have lost afterall its the internet. However, as soon as i enter the area around easter road, whatever ill feeling i have toward the manager, the way we have been playing or the players goes out of the window and im in the mood to watch hibs and get behind the team.

Its easy to let your frustration go on the internet, loads of people post things they likely wouldnt say in real life or in the past they did say it but only whoever is in there house heard them, now everyone can hear/read them.

The internet is full of knee jerk reactions to everything so take it all with a pinch of salt, i would bet that most of the people saying they are disgusted would still jump at the chance to be at easter road and supporting the team.

[bawheid]

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It was/is not all Yaks .. an increasing number of ('not real') Hibs fans are/have lost faith in the manager.

Aye, but we established last season that most of those are short-termists who fling their toys out the pram and throw a tantrum as soon as the slightest thing goes wrong. Maybe Jim Gannon would have done a better job mind.

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If the manager is consistantly awful, he needs to go. We all want the best for Hibernian. If any manager is inept, he shouldn't have some sort of immunity becasue the previous manager(s) were crap.

He's not consistently awful though. We qualified for Europe last season - an improvement on previous seasons. We've made what appear to be decent signings. We've not completed our pre-season yet we're being asked to take on the Slovenian champions in their own back yard when they're up to speed and have already played matches in the competition.

I think what Speedway's getting at is the CONSTANT demand from some for a new manager. As if changing the manager every year is going to turn us into the Hibs of old. When McLeish had us in the cup final, folk were moaning because Lovell was getting a game. When Mowbray had us thumping the OF in Glasgow, folk were moaning because Deek was on the bench. It doesn't matter who the manager is - we could have Guus Hiddink - Hibs fans will moan like **** if he gets a subsitution wrong.

It's a sad fact of internet forums that people can hide behind a username and spout pish (myself included). If they spout enough pish over a prolonged period of time they then get the chance to say "I told you so".

[Ryan69]

Dont build them up,every goal was preventable!

Poor tactics played a massive part last night,lets not kid ourselves!

Yogi has alot to answer for