Zouma

***KeithTheHibby*** · 01-07-2010 07:28 PM

What's the latest with the wee man?

Fit enough for pre-season?

Either way looking forward to seeing him back strutting his stuff in gods country.

**No.4** · 01-07-2010 08:27 PM

I've not actually heard how he's getting on but we definitely need the wee man back. I don't think it was a coincidence that our form went out the window when he was injured, magic wee player!

Anyone go along to watch them train that can shed any light on whether he's around?

**hibee1993** · 02-07-2010 09:28 AM

seen him at arthur seat last night when i was doing my pre season with coldstream ! was kicking a ball about with his laddie and missus ! :)

**sambajustice** · 02-07-2010 10:40 AM

I would get shot of him asap.

He's not giving us the return we're looking for!

**tam4hibs** · 02-07-2010 11:09 AM

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I would get shot of him asap.

He's not giving us the return we're looking for!

You joking?!

I think the wee man is the bees knees - i think he is the only player currently at Hibs with a creative spark (maybe Spoony but you dont see it whens he playng RB).

Yep, hes had a torrid time with injuries but hes a player id much rather have for 1/2 a season than not at all.

Brilliant to watch. Skillfull. Technically very good (could challange Riordan on the free kick taking). And unlike Benji, great attitude. Best player for us last season until he got injured.

And like the earlier poster mentioned - i dont think it was a coincidence our form dropped when he got injured.

**poolman** · 02-07-2010 11:25 AM

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I would get shot of him asap.

He's not giving us the return we're looking for!

**sambajustice** · 02-07-2010 11:37 AM

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You joking?!

I think the wee man is the bees knees - i think he is the only player currently at Hibs with a creative spark (maybe Spoony but you dont see it whens he playng RB).

Yep, hes had a torrid time with injuries but hes a player id much rather have for 1/2 a season than not at all.

Brilliant to watch. Skillfull. Technically very good (could challange Riordan on the free kick taking). And unlike Benji, great attitude. Best player for us last season until he got injured.

And like the earlier poster mentioned - i dont think it was a coincidence our form dropped when he got injured.

Nah, not kidding at all, i think people overrate him on here.

It doesnt matter how many flicks and tricks he does, we're simply not getting any return on him at all. A wasted wage in my opinion.

I'm not doubting he's a good player, but really, how often does he actually play? And out of those games how many is he really turning it on?

What are we getting from him then? a handful of games a season?? Sorry he's not for me, ship out and move on.

Thats the style of player we want but he's not doing it for us so get someone else who we'll get more than 4 or 5 games out of a season. A paupers Latapy at best!

**Hainan Hibs** · 02-07-2010 12:13 PM

On his day he is by far the best player we have for creating chances and exciting the fans, however the amount of time he spends on the treatment table is only outdone by Killen.

**SmokieJoe** · 03-07-2010 10:39 AM

Get rid of him? nah, he'd fit in at the Emerates both on skill and vision. maybe a possibillity that he gets injured more due to our dodgy pitch in the last half of the season. This will be the first season ( in Europe) that we will see his full potential, with De Graff/Spoony on the right Zouma could have a free roll and get the ball moving around quicker in mid field without being forced to play in one specific area of the pitch, the wee man is class and one we want to keep a hold of.

**Hibs90** · 03-07-2010 10:43 AM

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can only be drugs

***blackpoolhibs*** · 03-07-2010 12:06 PM

I'd sell him tomorrow, a fantastic player when he's on form, in fact one of the 1st names on the team sheet imho. Although those days like Benji are few and far between. Injured a lot, went on loan for a season. I think the club should cash in before he leaves for nothing, like benji. I would not sign anymore muslim players, the 2 we have signed have not contributed enough when ramadan in on, couple that with them not settling well, both have gone out on loan, and injuries, that market imho does not give enough value for money.

**hibsbollah** · 03-07-2010 12:12 PM

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I'd sell him tomorrow, a fantastic player when he's on form, in fact one of the 1st names on the team sheet imho. Although those days like Benji are few and far between. Injured a lot, went on loan for a season. I think the club should cash in before he leaves for nothing, like benji. I would not sign anymore muslim players, the 2 we have signed have not contributed enough when ramadan in on, couple that with them not settling well, both have gone out on loan, and injuries, that market imho does not give enough value for money.

What about Jews?

should we sign any of them?

***blackpoolhibs*** · 03-07-2010 12:14 PM

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What about Jews?

should we sign any of them?

I knew someone would come back with a reply like that. I'd take jews if they were european jews.

**hibsbollah** · 03-07-2010 12:16 PM

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I knew someone would come back with a reply like that. I'd take jews if they were european jews.

Jews have to fast on Yom Kippur, September 18th. This clashes with our home match against Hamilton. No way should we sign any of them, they wouldnt provide a return on our investment

***blackpoolhibs*** · 03-07-2010 12:18 PM

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Jews have to fast on Yom Kippur, September 18th. This clashes with our home match against St Johnstone. No way should we sign any of them, they wouldnt provide a return on our investment

I can put up with one day.

**hibsbollah** · 03-07-2010 12:19 PM

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I can put up with one day.

But theres those bleedin candlesticks to consider. Drop one of those on your teammate's foot and his metatarsal is at risk...

**NAE NOOKIE** · 03-07-2010 12:23 PM

It is really frustrating that probably our most talanted player has hardly kicked a ball for us in two seasons for various reasons, so I can understand why some folks on here are beginning to wonder if its worth keeping him around. Have to admit that I'm one of them.

But thats the only reason. A great wee player on his day.

As for the Muslim thing. Not really a factor IMO for Zouma, Benji was just naturally a lazy git anyway.

We need a full season from Zouma or it will be better for him to go.

***bingo70*** · 03-07-2010 12:25 PM

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But theres those bleedin candlesticks to consider. Drop one of those on your teammate's foot and his metatarsal is at risk...

If we signed a jewish player and it turns out they all suffered a broken metatarsal every year and spent a month out from that happening i'd tend to think jewish players weren't great value either

***blackpoolhibs*** · 03-07-2010 12:28 PM

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But theres those bleedin candlesticks to consider. Drop one of those on your teammate's foot and his metatarsal is at risk...

Aye because they all walk around with candlesticks, dropping it on team mates feet. Unlike muslims who let their fitness drop, to the detriment of the team the fans and the people who pay their wages.

**hibsbollah** · 03-07-2010 12:34 PM

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Aye because they all walk around with candlesticks, dropping it on team mates feet. Unlike muslims who let their fitness drop, to the detriment of the team the fans and the people who pay their wages.

I think you're starting to make a fool of yourself

***blackpoolhibs*** · 03-07-2010 12:37 PM

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I think you're starting to make a fool of yourself

Wouldnt be the 1st time.

**(((Fergus)))** · 03-07-2010 12:42 PM

Jews can't play on a Saturday however they can play on Sunday - a day when our protestants and catholics rarely show up, especially if it's a televised game against the old firm.

PS regarding Zemmama, I'd like to see how he gets on this season before jumping to the conclusion that he is too inconsistent. YEs, his career has been disrupted a lot so far, but if it hadn't been he wouldn't still be at HIbs.

**hibsdaft** · 03-07-2010 12:45 PM

i have a feeling the ramadan issue might not be too significant now Benji is away. i get the feeling Zoumer doesn't give too much of a ***** about that stuff but maybe went along with it when his mate was here possible due to peer pressure/ going with the flow. i suspect he won't be making a big deal of it off his own back, if he feels its expected of him he'll probably go along with it though so Yogi would do well not to assume its a big deal for him imo.

**NAE NOOKIE** · 03-07-2010 12:47 PM

Ye gods ..... Lets not turn this into an argument about religion, therin lies madness.

Having said that, if one of the teams in the SPL or EPL had a squad full of born again Christians it wouldnt half screw up SKY,s Sunday schedule.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 03-07-2010 12:48 PM

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]i have a feeling the ramadan issue might not be too significant now Benji is away.[/B] i get the feeling Zoumer doesn't give too much of a ***** about that stuff but maybe went along with it when his mate was here possible due to peer pressure/ going with the flow. i suspect he won't be making a big deal of it off his own back, if he feels its expected of him he'll probably go along with it though so Yogi would do well not to assume its a big deal for him imo.

He's in the last year of his contract, i doubt it will make any difference either. The club will sell if they can, they wont want him leaving for free.

**(((Fergus)))** · 03-07-2010 12:51 PM

Ramadan in 2010 will start on Wednesday, the 11th of August and will continue for 30 days until Thursday, the 9th of September

Kind of worst possible time for an SPL footballer who likes playing in nice weather on brand new pitches.

I think it comes forward each year by about 10 days, so the longer he stays, the better it gets for Hibs.

**hibsbollah** · 03-07-2010 12:56 PM

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If we signed a jewish player and it turns out they all suffered a broken metatarsal every year and spent a month out from that happening i'd tend to think jewish players weren't great value either

I dont think Zouma's metatarsals and hamstrings (the two reasons he's missed so much football) are anything to do with his religion. The ramadan thing has been debated so many times on here theres no point doing it again (what was Collins doing? Why did he tell Zemmama and Benji to take the time off?) but its obvious looking at the NBA for example that muslims can continue to be successful sportsmen during ramadan.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 03-07-2010 12:59 PM

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I dont think Zouma's metatarsals and hamstrings (the two reasons he's missed so much football) are anything to do with his religion. The ramadan thing has been debated so many times on here theres no point doing it again (what was Collins doing? Why did he tell Zemmama and Benji to take the time off?) but its obvious looking at the NBA for example that muslims can continue to be successful sportsmen during ramadan.

Do these NBA teams have muslims from other continents in their teams?