David Cameron

[Sergey]

Speaking live at the G8 summit (or is it the G20?)

Made a reference to England being well beaten by the Nazis, erm...Germans...but touched upon the fact that 'technology' should be introduced into the game of football.

No matter who one votes for, be it Labour, SNP, BNP, lets all agree on this. The game simply has to encompass the technology to allow for 'fair-play' for goal-line gaffs.

I really can't imagine Obama talking so succinctly on such an emotive subject of the moment.

Well said, Cameron!

[surreyhibbie]

The man is a slavering erse who should piss of back under the rock from which he crawled.

But surely, if the BBC and Wimbledon can show clearly what happened, FIFA should get real and do teh same?

Sepp Blatter is against it though, so the rest of the world is wrong...

[yekimevol]

I only want goal line tec brought in when we start moaning over other stuff it takes away a wee bit to me. imo

[Spike Mandela]

He sat and watched the game with Angela Merkel, bet she loved that

[steviecarnie]

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I only want goal line tec brought in when we start moaning over other stuff it takes away a wee bit to me. imo

Exactly, Games are won on goals, there the only thing that matter, sending off's/yellows can be done later.

[Gatecrasher]

Sepp Blatter is an arse, 2 occasions today where goal line cameras would have changed the scoreline (whether they would have changed the result is debatable) if you can have F1 cars whizzing around at over 200MPH and use replays why cant football? Tennis, F1, Rugby,
and NFL off the top of my head use it, time for things to change! it should have years ago.

[heretoday]

Every goal scored or suspected (as today) should go upstairs automatically for confirmation. Most times no action would be taken and the game won't be held up at all.

If a goal is chalked off the ref gets the message and acts on it. Takes the pressure off him a bit.

[Jonnyboy]

Why did they not use this fifth and sixth officials as experimented via the Europa League? That would have solved the England one surely?

[Geo_1875]

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Exactly, Games are won on goals, there the only thing that matter, sending off's/yellows can be done later.

But surely sending someone off after the game when it can't affect the result is unfair. If someone dives to win a penalty and it is picked up later do you go back and amend the result? You wouldn't know what the league standings were from one week to the next. And how many times have referees looked at video evidence and turned down appeals when they are obviously wrong?

[Gatecrasher]

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Why did they not use this fifth and sixth officials as experimented via the Europa League? That would have solved the England one surely?

Why pay an extra 2 officials if you can have the 4th official look at a replay though? or at least a guy watching it on the TV

[Jonnyboy]

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Why pay an extra 2 officials if you can have the 4th official look at a replay though? or at least a guy watching it on the TV

Fair point well made but Blatter has set his stall against technology but has accepted the use of a 5th and 6th official

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Retrospective cards don't help the team that the offence was against as more often than not the offender is suspended against a rival of that team.

[Ryan91]

I'd like to see goal-line technology introduced and for FIFA to then state outright that no other forms of technology will be used as I fear many would then want for more technology to be used to review refereeing decisions on the spot or for disputed red-cards/penalties etc. It shouldn't be too difficult to implement as the technology is readily available for use in Rugby.

[Richard Scott]

David Cameron = :asshole:

[Kaiser1962]

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Exactly, Games are won on goals, there the only thing that matter, sending off's/yellows can be done later.

Absolutely agree but my take is that at the first goal Upson was all over Klose like a cheap suit and tried very hard to pull him over. The fact he didnt dosent alter the fact that he tried and should, as he attempted to foul Kolse, have been sent off. Had Klose fallen over, a la Joe Cole, then undoubtedly Upson would have gone and the English are down to 10 men after 20 mins. Barry had a kick at Otiz n(?) at the fourth but missed him totally so does the same apply as in both cases there was undoubted intent?

Not trying to be pedantic but where would you stop?

[oregonhibby]

Technology for goals. Ice Hockey uses it and there are no disputes whether a team scores or not.

[twiceinathens]

As a possible plus in the future the media, after they have put the all blame on Capello for the players' basic ineptitude, will convince themselves that it was only this disallowed goal which prevented them from a glorious sweep to their inevitable tournament victory. Thus come the next big occasion they will once again tell the rest of us how they are hot favourites and we can all have a laugh when the inevitable crash comes.

[marinello59]

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As a possible plus in the future the media, after they have put the all blame on Capello for the players' basic ineptitude, will convince themselves that it was only this disallowed goal which prevented them from a glorious sweep to their inevitable tournament victory. Thus come the next big occasion they will once again tell the rest of us how they are hot favourites and we can all have a laugh when the inevitable crash comes.

That may be the reaction that a lot of Scots want in order to continue saying, 'It's the media that makes us hate them.' Reaction so far seems to be an acceptance that the disallowed goal made no difference really, they were simply outclassed by a much better team. I said it before and have repeated it during the tournament, the English media seemed to adopt a much more realistic approach to their teams chances this time around. I stick by that. Some may have hoped they would win it but there was no coronation in advance.

[lapsedhibee]

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the English media seemed to adopt a much more realistic approach to their teams chances this time around. I stick by that. Some may have hoped they would win it but there was no coronation in advance.

That may be true. I tried not to listen to as much of the coverage as I could, it being generally so nauseating. But one thing I did notice which I don't remember from previous tournaments was an inordinate disrespect for the smaller competing teams. Whichever way you wrap it up, "We're worldbeaters and we'll sail by all these good teams" or "We're not worldbeaters but we'll sail past all the rest of this crap", there's still more than a whiff of arrogance. As for "the golden generation", WTF?

[jdships]

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David Cameron = :asshole:

"Take's one to know one "

[Hibbyradge]

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Fair point well made but Blatter has set his stall against technology but has accepted the use of a 5th and 6th official

That was UEFA not FIFA.

[southern hibby]

I for one am all for it. This is because for years I have gone to watch HIBS through in Glasgow and have had to endure bad refereeing. The number of times we should have had things go our way for the ref to wimp out infront off the home crowd is abysmal.
I think Hibs and other teams around Scotland would have a better advantage with footage against the unwashed. Although this will be viewed as a conspiracy against the weegies by both sets of Worlds Greatest Fans.

[Hibbyradge]

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Absolutely agree but my take is that at the first goal Upson was all over Klose like a cheap suit and tried very hard to pull him over. The fact he didnt dosent alter the fact that he tried and should, as he attempted to foul Kolse, have been sent off. Had Klose fallen over, a la Joe Cole, then undoubtedly Upson would have gone and the English are down to 10 men after 20 mins. Barry had a kick at Otiz n(?) at the fourth but missed him totally so does the same apply as in both cases there was undoubted intent?

Not trying to be pedantic but where would you stop?

You can't send someone of for trying to stop a goal scoring opportunity after a goal has been scored.

[SlickShoes]

I dont think the G8 summit is any place to be talking about bringing in goal line technology to football. Im sure there are more pressing issues to discuss.

[heretoday]

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I dont think the G8 summit is any place to be talking about bringing in goal line technology to football. Im sure there are more pressing issues to discuss.

Ah yes but Cameron has to try and prove he's down with the people and their simple pursuits!

[LancashireHibby]

Being a rugby league fan, I'm more than used to seeing the referee go to a video referee and think it can only be a good thing, to be honest - the main question to me would be how would you restart the game, but either the goal has been given and it's a kick off as normal, or treat as a goal kick. Same thing with penalty decisions, the ball generally goes out of play, it will be a penalty, or a free kick for simulation. I think the fact that a threat is carried that any diving can be proven straight away and bring immediate punishment would act as a big deterrent without even being used.

[bighairyfaeleith]

I really don't trust cameron, something about him, he just looks shifty!!

Goal line technology should introduced though.

[Bostonhibby]

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I really don't trust cameron, something about him, he just looks shifty!!

Goal line technology should introduced though.

would you buy a used car from him?

Actually, pointless question really as he wouldnae be able to sell it without clearing it with his poodle Clegg first, and I wouldn't ever buy anythng from him now...........

[Woody1985]

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Sepp Blatter is an arse, 2 occasions today where goal line cameras would have changed the scoreline (whether they would have changed the result is debatable) if you can have F1 cars whizzing around at over 200MPH and use replays why cant football? Tennis, F1, Rugby,
and NFL off the top of my head use it, time for things to change! it should have years ago.

Is this a reference to the Mexico game (and obviously the E vs G)?

When watching that game I was waiting for the replay of that shot but we never got one. I suspect the camera crew/editors were instructed not to show anything on the big screens (same as TV pics I believe) that could cause mayhem given that the Argentina goal was shown to be well offside.

[Woody1985]

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That may be true. I tried not to listen to as much of the coverage as I could, it being generally so nauseating. But one thing I did notice which I don't remember from previous tournaments was an inordinate disrespect for the smaller competing teams. Whichever way you wrap it up, "We're worldbeaters and we'll sail by all these good teams" or "We're not worldbeaters but we'll sail past all the rest of this crap", there's still more than a whiff of arrogance. As for "the golden generation", WTF?

You obviously missed the comment about 'England vs Slovenia being the equivilent of a Premiership team vs a 3rd division team in FA cup terms'.

Although the one I liked best was the one Vs the US when they scored after 4 minutes 'Ohhh, this could be fun' in the tone that they were expecting a rout with no challenge.

They make their bed, and this year, it would seem they're prepared to lie in it rather than making excuses.