Average Home League Crowds of All Scottish Football Champions since 1946

[LHWM]

We've put up the 'Average Home League Crowds of All Scottish Football Champions since 1946'

Hibs only team outside the OF to top 30,000.

Hibs have been above Aberdeen for the last 5 years apart from 2008-09.

Inc the OF



Exc OF

[PaulSmith]

Can you change your postings to "I think Hearts are a bigger club than Hibs because....." and just be done with it?

[Twa Cairpets]

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Can you change your postings to "I think Hearts are a bigger club than Hibs because....." and just be done with it?

No need. LHWM puts some interesting stats up and immediately its a yam bash. Hearts do get better attendances than we do, sadly, and the stats prove it. Doesnt mean theyre a bigger club, just have a wider appeal to the intellectually disadvantaged.

What interested me was the fact that this season, even with its apparent drop of in attendances, has only been beaten once (excluding post-Mowbray), since the early-70s.

[PaulSmith]

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No need. LHWM puts some interesting stats up and immediately its a yam bash. Hearts do get better attendances than we do, sadly, and the stats prove it. Doesnt mean theyre a bigger club, just have a wider appeal to the intellectually disadvantaged.

What interested me was the fact that this season, even with its apparent drop of in attendances, has only been beaten once (excluding post-Mowbray), since the early-70s.

I'm sure they'll be available via Kickback if anyone wants to look

[greenlex]

Other than actual bums on seats its quite interesting to note that the pattern of both Edinburgh clubs almost mirrors each other in peaks and troughs. Except the early 50's and 70's .

[Disc O'Dave]

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No need. LHWM puts some interesting stats up and immediately its a yam bash. Hearts do get better attendances than we do, sadly, and the stats prove it. Doesnt mean theyre a bigger club, just have a wider appeal to the intellectually disadvantaged.

What interested me was the fact that this season, even with its apparent drop of in attendances, has only been beaten once (excluding post-Mowbray), since the early-70s.

To be fair, you don't often (i.e. never) see LHWM post stats that show Hearts in a poorer light than us.

Either;

a) They are superior to us in every way
b) He posts selectively

Interesting they may be, a nice guy he might be, but don't for a minute think he doesn't know exactly what he's doing when posting his stats here.

[vanNISHtelroy]

Ours aren't that impressive due to emmmm......statistical inaccuracies etc KTID

[Cropley10]

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To be fair, you don't often (i.e. never) see LHWM post stats that show Hearts in a poorer light than us.

Either;

a) They are superior to us in every way
b) He posts selectively

Interesting they may be, a nice guy he might be, but don't for a minute think he doesn't know exactly what he's doing when posting his stats here.

why chose 1946 on wards.

I simply satisfy myself with the FACT that in my 42 years weve only managed to win 3 trophies whereas HOMFC have still on just 2.

Big Club? My erchie!

[Cabbage East]

Great stuff

[Phil D. Rolls]

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I'm sure they'll be available via Kickback if anyone wants to look

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To be fair, you don't often (i.e. never) see LHWM post stats that show Hearts in a poorer light than us.

Either;

a) They are superior to us in every way
b) He posts selectively

Interesting they may be, a nice guy he might be, but don't for a minute think he doesn't know exactly what he's doing when posting his stats here.

A bit off there guys. LHWM chips in with stats whenever someone is after them. I, for one, find him an interesting contributor.

[LHWM]

The raw tab on the website link has the details of every club from 1890

Details of 2009-10 will be updated for non SPL clubs at the end of the season.

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[RoxburghHibs]

What your "stats" don't show is the actual attendances at the games. Hearts issue tickets sold as apposed to the crowd in the stadium.

So yer stats are baws

[RoxburghHibs]

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To be fair, you don't often (i.e. never) see LHWM post stats that show Hearts in a poorer light than us.

Either;

a) They are superior to us in every way
b) He posts selectively

Interesting they may be, a nice guy he might be, but don't for a minute think he doesn't know exactly what he's doing when posting his stats here.

Agree 100%

His stats are always having a wee dig at Hibs, he's a first class Yam fudd

[Disc O'Dave]

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A bit off there guys. LHWM chips in with stats whenever someone is after them. I, for one, find him an interesting contributor.

Easy Mr Rolls.....:o)

I'm not suggesting he isn't interesting, or that he shouldn't post his stats. By the same token, I'm just a little wary of the LHMW love-in. Take the stats for what they are, a Hearts Fan, posting stats, that seem to show his favoured club to come out on top of our favoured club.

(It seems a bit silly discussing him in the third person when he's on the thread too, I concede)

[LHWM]

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What your "stats" don't show is the actual attendances at the games. Hearts issue tickets sold as apposed to the crowd in the stadium.

So yer stats are baws

Hearts did do it during season 2006-07 (as the Old Firm were doing though Celtic are so embaraased that they are now issuing lower figures. However even those numbers appear inflated. ) which is why I posted the folowing on JKB.

2006-07 16888 100.70% 100.70% <-- The average crowd is 'wrong' as some games counted tickets sold rather than bums on seats

I'm working with the Hearts Historian to get the 'real' figures rather than 'PR figure'.

Incidently the record crowd at Easter Road was probably at least 5,000 bigger. Having spoken to fans of both clubs there was a gate opened that allowed a large number of fans to get in without being counted through the turnstyles.

[Borders Hibby]

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Hearts did do it during season 2006-07 (as the Old Firm were doing though Celtic are so embaraased that they are now issuing lower figures. However even those numbers appear inflated. ) which is why I posted the folowing on JKB.



I'm working with the Hearts Historian to get the 'real' figures rather than 'PR figure'.

Incidently the record crowd at Easter Road was probably at least 5,000 bigger. Having spoken to fans of both clubs there was a gate opened that allowed a large number of fans to get in without being counted through the turnstyles.

Who won?

[Frogga]

Who cares if the stats look a bit better for the Jambos... Its still interesting, especially for folk like me who are too young to know what Scottish football used to be like before it become more business-orientated.

PS- Did we have a 'mare in the late 70's?!

[LHWM]

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Who won?

Full report - Mon 02 Jan 1950 Hibernian 1 Hearts 2.

[Phil D. Rolls]

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Easy Mr Rolls.....:o)

I'm not suggesting he isn't interesting, or that he shouldn't post his stats. By the same token, I'm just a little wary of the LHMW love-in. Take the stats for what they are, a Hearts Fan, posting stats, that seem to show his favoured club to come out on top of our favoured club.

(It seems a bit silly discussing him in the third person when he's on the thread too, I concede)

It's done in the right spirit, so I just wanted to stick up for the guy.

BTW, does he take sugar?

On the subject of the stats. Dundee haven't been very impressive for many years - if ever.

[DH1875]

It all a load a rubbish. I rem playing against celtic away in the early - mid 90s and no way there was more than 15,000 at the games.
Herd Rangers only got crowds of 8,000 years ago, don't know how true that is as would have been before my time.

[Jonnyboy]

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It all a load a rubbish. I rem playing against celtic away in the early - mid 90s and no way there was more than 15,000 at the games.
Herd Rangers only got crowds of 8,000 years ago, don't know how true that is as would have been before my time.

There was a time when Rangers attracted only around 4,000 or so to a home match. Pre Souness but it did happen

[Killiehibbie]

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There was a time when Rangers attracted only around 4,000 or so to a home match. Pre Souness but it did happen

Early 80's v Raith (maybe) less than 4000 but 40000 huns who swear they were there.

[Jonnyboy]

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Early 80's v Raith (maybe) less than 4000 but 40000 huns who swear they were there.

[seanraff07]

At least we've had the biggest crowd outwith the OF.

[Big Frank]

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To be fair, you don't often (i.e. never) see LHWM post stats that show Hearts in a poorer light than us.

Either;

a) They are superior to us in every way
b) He posts selectively

Interesting they may be, a nice guy he might be, but don't for a minute think he doesn't know exactly what he's doing when posting his stats here.

Absolutely correct.

...but I've grown to like London yam , and to be fair, moroon tinted or not, he can still post better than some "hibbys".

[sahib]

It worries me how people can accuse the man of having a go at us through statistics. The facts are the facts, why people argue about who is the biggest club perplexes me. What does it matter? Are you a Hibs supporter because you decided to support the best attended team in Edinburgh and now feel duped? Rise above it folks

[KWJ]

Statsaregreat!

myspaceardoes'twork:(

[LHWM]

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There was a time when Rangers attracted only around 4,000 or so to a home match. Pre Souness but it did happen

Here are the 'bottom' 10 crowds for the 8 Champions in 'Division 1' since 1946 i.e. excluding any when the sides were out of the Top Tier. Celtic have 'rounded numbers' which may well have been lower than those issued.


1 Wed 28 Mar 1962 Aberdeen 2 Falkirk 2 2642
2 Sat 31 Mar 1962 Aberdeen 3 Kilmarnock 3 3269
3 Sat 19 Apr 1975 Aberdeen 4 Clyde 1 3302
4 Sat 21 Mar 1964 Aberdeen 3 Queen of the South 0 3479
4 Sat 19 Dec 1964 Aberdeen 0 Clyde 3 3479
6 Sat 31 Oct 1964 Aberdeen 2 Falkirk 1 3515
7 Sat 12 Mar 1966 Aberdeen 2 Partick Thistle 1 3793
8 Sat 18 Apr 1964 Aberdeen 0 Dundee United 0 4002
9 Wed 24 Mar 1965 Aberdeen 5 Airdrieonians 2 4220
10 Sat 13 Jan 1962 Aberdeen 1 Airdrieonians 1 4221

1 Mon 29 Apr 1957 Celtic 0 Queen of the South 0 3000
2 Wed 05 Mar 1958 Celtic 4 East Fife 0 4000
2 Mon 07 Apr 1958 Celtic 5 Queens Park 1 4000
2 Wed 30 Apr 1958 Celtic 4 Third Lanark 1 4000
2 Tue 10 Mar 1959 Celtic 1 Airdrieonians 2 4000
2 Mon 30 Apr 1956 Celtic 1 Falkirk 0 4000
7 Tue 24 Apr 1984 Celtic 3 Dundee 0 4596
8 Mon 13 May 1963 Celtic 6 Motherwell 0 4692
9 Wed 09 Apr 1958 Celtic 6 Clyde 2 5000
9 Mon 21 Apr 1958 Celtic 2 Motherwell 2 5000
9 Wed 17 Apr 1957 Celtic 2 St Mirren 3 5000

1 Fri 10 Mar 1967 Dundee 3 Ayr United 0 2251
2 Wed 01 Apr 1970 Dundee 4 Partick Thistle 1 2342
3 Sat 20 Apr 1957 Dundee 0 East Fife 1 2500
4 Wed 03 Dec 1986 Dundee 3 Hamilton Academical 3 2525
5 Sat 25 Apr 1987 Dundee 4 Clydebank[4] 1 2598
6 Sat 07 May 1994 Dundee 4 Hibernian 0 2731
7 Sat 26 Mar 1994 Dundee 3 Kilmarnock 0 2758
8 Sat 05 May 1990 Dundee 1 Motherwell 2 2846
9 Sat 09 Apr 1994 Dundee 0 St Johnstone 1 2871
10 Sat 13 Mar 1993 Dundee 1 Airdrieonians 1 2929

1 Wed 21 Nov 1973 Dundee United 2 Falkirk 1 1302
2 Fri 10 May 1974 Dundee United 4 Morton 2 1437
3 Wed 05 Apr 1967 Dundee United 4 Falkirk 4 1815
4 Mon 25 Mar 1968 Dundee United 1 Airdrieonians 0 2054
5 Sat 03 Apr 1971 Dundee United 4 Cowdenbeath 2 2396
6 Wed 24 Apr 1974 Dundee United 1 Partick Thistle 1 2626
7 Wed 22 Apr 1970 Dundee United 1 Dunfermline Athletic 3 2727
8 Wed 26 Apr 1978 Dundee United 3 Ayr United 1 2735
9 Sat 06 Oct 1973 Dundee United 4 Clyde 0 2817
10 Wed 11 Mar 1970 Dundee United 3 Clyde 1 2850

1 Wed 19 Apr 1967 Heart Of Midlothian 5 Stirling Albion 1 1846
2 Sat 04 Apr 1981 Heart Of Midlothian 1 Kilmarnock 0 1866
3 Mon 07 May 1979 Heart Of Midlothian 0 Morton 1 2253
4 Sat 18 Apr 1981 Heart Of Midlothian 1 St Mirren 2 2649
5 Sat 28 Feb 1981 Heart Of Midlothian 1 Partick Thistle 1 3491
6 Sat 28 Mar 1981 Heart Of Midlothian 0 Dundee United 4 3786
7 Sat 17 Apr 1971 Heart Of Midlothian 0 Motherwell 1 4305
8 Sat 21 Apr 1973 Heart Of Midlothian 0 Airdrieonians 1 4328
9 Sat 21 Jan 1967 Heart Of Midlothian 1 Ayr United 0 4351
10 Mon 24 Mar 1969 Heart Of Midlothian 2 Morton 2 4539

1 Wed 23 Mar 1955 Hibernian 4 Stirling Albion 1 875
2 Mon 05 May 1980 Hibernian 0 Partick Thistle 1 1191
3 Wed 04 Apr 1962 Hibernian 2 St Mirren 1 1508
4 Tue 29 Apr 1980 Hibernian 2 St Mirren 1 2590
5 Wed 29 Feb 1984 Hibernian 3 Dundee 1 2601
6 Sat 08 Dec 1984 Hibernian 2 St Mirren 3 2631
7 Mon 21 Apr 1980 Hibernian 1 Kilmarnock 2 2659
8 Wed 20 Apr 1977 Hibernian 2 Ayr United 0 2835
9 Sat 28 Apr 1962 Hibernian 3 Stirling Albion 1 2942
10 Sat 08 May 1982 Hibernian 1 Partick Thistle 1 3118

1 Wed 15 Apr 1981 Kilmarnock 0 Morton 0 973
2 Wed 27 Apr 1983 Kilmarnock 2 St Mirren 2 1049
3 Sat 14 May 1983 Kilmarnock 1 Motherwell 1 1203
4 Sat 19 Mar 1983 Kilmarnock 4 Morton 0 1230
5 Sat 18 Apr 1981 Kilmarnock 0 Partick Thistle 1 1262
6 Tue 24 Mar 1981 Kilmarnock 2 Heart Of Midlothian 0 1445
7 Wed 20 Apr 1977 Kilmarnock 1 Partick Thistle 3 1543
8 Sat 30 Apr 1977 Kilmarnock 1 Dundee United 2 1643
9 Sat 12 Feb 1983 Kilmarnock 0 Dundee United 5 1834
10 Sat 28 Mar 1981 Kilmarnock 0 Airdrieonians 1 1849

1 Wed 05 May 1982 Rangers 3 St Mirren 0 4765
2 Wed 24 Mar 1965 Rangers 2 St Johnstone 1 5671
3 Wed 31 Mar 1982 Rangers 1 Airdrieonians 0 5681
4 Mon 01 May 1972 Rangers 4 Ayr United 2 5869
5 Thu 27 Apr 1972 Rangers 3 Dunfermline Athletic 4 6021
6 Wed 23 May 1979 Rangers 1 Partick Thistle 0 6087
7 Wed 01 Apr 1981 Rangers 4 Morton 0 6216
8 Mon 28 Apr 1969 Rangers 1 Dundee 1 6821
9 Sat 08 May 1982 Rangers 4 Dundee 0 7052
10 Wed 02 May 1984 Rangers 2 Dundee United 2 7354

[LHWM]

Here are the Top 10s

I had no idea that Rangers vs Hibs was the only crowd over 100,000 post 1946


1 Sat 03 Apr 1948 Aberdeen 1 Rangers 1 44414
2 Sat 12 Feb 1949 Aberdeen 0 Rangers 2 42000
2 Sat 03 Feb 1951 Aberdeen 2 Rangers 4 42000
4 Wed 13 Aug 1947 Aberdeen 0 Hibernian 2 40000
5 Sat 29 Oct 1949 Aberdeen 1 Rangers 3 38000
5 Sat 09 Oct 1954 Aberdeen 0 Celtic 2 38000
5 Sat 07 Jan 1956 Aberdeen 1 Celtic 0 38000
8 Sat 27 Oct 1962 Aberdeen 2 Rangers 3 37750
9 Sat 17 Apr 1971 Aberdeen 1 Celtic 1 36000
10 Sat 20 Feb 1971 Aberdeen 0 Rangers 0 35251

1 Tue 02 Jan 1968 Celtic 2 Rangers 2 73480
2 Sat 03 Jan 1970 Celtic 0 Rangers 0 72265
3 Sat 08 Sep 1962 Celtic 0 Rangers 1 71116
4 Sat 12 Sep 1970 Celtic 2 Rangers 0 70656
5 Sat 14 Sep 1968 Celtic 2 Rangers 4 69561
6 Mon 03 Jan 1972 Celtic 2 Rangers 1 66751
7 Mon 02 Jan 1950 Celtic 1 Rangers 1 65000
7 Fri 01 Jan 1954 Celtic 1 Rangers 0 65000
9 Sat 06 Nov 1971 Celtic 1 Aberdeen 1 62236
10 Sat 23 Apr 1988 Celtic 3 Dundee 0 61927

1 Mon 03 Jan 1949 Dundee 3 Rangers 1 39975
2 Sat 30 Dec 1950 Dundee 2 Rangers 0 37400
3 Sat 22 Oct 1949 Dundee 3 Celtic 0 35000
4 Wed 14 Mar 1962 Dundee 0 Rangers 0 34208
5 Sat 23 Sep 1950 Dundee 2 Aberdeen 0 34000
5 Sat 24 Oct 1953 Dundee 1 Rangers 0 34000
7 Sat 07 Jan 1950 Dundee 3 Heart Of Midlothian 1 33500
8 Wed 21 Aug 1963 Dundee 1 Rangers 1 33283
9 Sat 19 Mar 1949 Dundee 4 Hibernian 3 32500
10 Mon 02 Jan 1950 Dundee 1 Aberdeen 1 32000
10 Mon 17 Apr 1950 Dundee 0 Rangers 1 32000
10 Sat 20 Oct 1951 Dundee 2 Celtic 1 32000
10 Sat 05 Jan 1952 Dundee 3 Heart Of Midlothian 3 32000

1 Sat 21 Apr 1979 Dundee United 1 Rangers 2 24264
2 Sat 11 Feb 1989 Dundee United 1 Rangers 1 22009
3 Wed 02 Jan 1985 Dundee United 2 Aberdeen 1 21944
4 Sat 10 Nov 1962 Dundee United 2 Rangers 1 21391
5 Mon 03 Jan 1966 Dundee United 2 Dundee 1 21325
6 Sat 21 Mar 1987 Dundee United 0 Rangers 1 21278
7 Thu 02 Jan 1964 Dundee United 2 Dundee 1 21255
8 Mon 09 Apr 1962 Dundee United 1 Dundee 2 21138
9 Sat 27 Feb 1988 Dundee United 1 Rangers 1 20846
10 Tue 27 Sep 1988 Dundee United 0 Rangers 1 20800

1 Sat 17 Mar 1956 Heart Of Midlothian 1 Rangers 1 50000
2 Sat 13 Apr 1957 Heart Of Midlothian 0 Rangers 1 49000
2 Sat 20 Feb 1954 Heart Of Midlothian 3 Rangers 3 49000
2 Sat 01 Jan 1955 Heart Of Midlothian 5 Hibernian 1 49000
5 Sat 20 Sep 1947 Heart Of Midlothian 2 Hibernian 1 47752
6 Sat 19 Jan 1952 Heart Of Midlothian 2 Rangers 2 47684
7 Sat 06 Feb 1954 Heart Of Midlothian 3 Celtic 2 47519
8 Sat 21 Jan 1950 Heart Of Midlothian 0 Rangers 1 46285
9 Sat 01 Jan 1949 Heart Of Midlothian 3 Hibernian 2 45030
10 Sat 19 Sep 1953 Heart Of Midlothian 4 Hibernian 0 45000
10 Sat 24 Sep 1955 Heart Of Midlothian 0 Hibernian 1 45000
10 Sat 05 Mar 1960 Heart Of Midlothian 2 Rangers 0 45000

1 Mon 02 Jan 1950 Hibernian 1 Heart Of Midlothian 2 65840
2 Mon 02 Jan 1956 Hibernian 2 Heart Of Midlothian 2 60812
3 Sat 17 Jan 1953 Hibernian 1 Rangers 1 60500
4 Sat 03 Nov 1951 Hibernian 1 Rangers 1 55000
5 Fri 01 Jan 1960 Hibernian 1 Heart Of Midlothian 5 54000
6 Sat 31 Jan 1948 Hibernian 1 Rangers 0 52750
7 Sat 05 Nov 1949 Hibernian 1 Rangers 0 51500
8 Sat 19 Feb 1949 Hibernian 0 Rangers 1 50000
8 Sat 20 Sep 1952 Hibernian 3 Heart Of Midlothian 1 50000
10 Wed 01 Jan 1958 Hibernian 0 Heart Of Midlothian 2 49200

1 Sat 04 Jan 1969 Kilmarnock 3 Rangers 3 32893
2 Thu 02 Jan 1947 Kilmarnock 0 Rangers 2 32325
3 Sat 14 Nov 1964 Kilmarnock 1 Rangers 1 32021
4 Sat 11 Feb 1967 Kilmarnock 1 Rangers 2 31551
5 Sat 01 Apr 1961 Kilmarnock 2 Rangers 0 29528
6 Sat 01 Jan 1955 Kilmarnock 1 St Mirren 1 27992
7 Sat 16 Nov 1963 Kilmarnock 1 Rangers 1 27624
8 Sat 03 Dec 1966 Kilmarnock 0 Celtic 0 27136
9 Sat 16 Apr 1960 Kilmarnock 1 Rangers 1 26925
10 Sat 19 Mar 1960 Kilmarnock 2 Heart Of Midlothian 1 26584

1 Sat 29 Apr 1950 Rangers 0 Hibernian 0 115000
2 Sat 01 Jan 1949 Rangers 4 Celtic 0 95000
3 Sat 16 Sep 1967 Rangers 1 Celtic 0 87595
4 Sat 22 Sep 1951 Rangers 1 Celtic 1 86000
5 Thu 02 Jan 1969 Rangers 1 Celtic 0 85341
6 Wed 01 Jan 1947 Rangers 1 Celtic 1 85000
7 Sat 20 Sep 1969 Rangers 0 Celtic 1 84140
8 Sat 02 Jan 1971 Rangers 1 Celtic 1 80453
9 Sat 04 Nov 1950 Rangers 1 Hibernian 1 80000
10 Mon 02 Jan 1961 Rangers 2 Celtic 1 79000

[LHWM]

That crowd of 115,000 was the 'League Decider' which does explain it.