Ross County in Europa Cup....only if...

[Borders Hibby]

according to Radio 5 Live, can we clear this up once and for all!

[green.and.white]

If true what a joke, another lower league team getting in and dropping the country's coefficient points down

[Borders Hibby]

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If true what a joke, another lower league team getting in and dropping the country's coefficient points down

Just a joke that no one seems to be clear on the rules!!

[H18sry]

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If true what a joke, another lower league team getting in and dropping the country's coefficient points down

Well we can blame ourselves and Celtc for not beating them

[BT58]

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according to Radio 5 Live, can we clear this up once and for all!

if they win the cup,,,,,,,,,,,if not 4th place gets it,,,,,,,,,,had the huns played ross cty in the finale then maybe
then again i could be wrong
hb

[Borders Hibby]

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if they win the cup,,,,,,,,,,,if not 4th place gets it,,,,,,,,,,had the huns played ross cty in the finale then maybe
then again i could be wrong
hb

Commentator on Radio 5 says that that is them in, even before the final is played!

[craig1875]

I thought it was changed to only the winners went into europe, but do remember reading that both the scottish cup finalists have to finish in the top 4 of the spl for the spl's 5th place team to qualify.

Total joke again, it has to be changed for next season.

[Borders Hibby]

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I thought it was changed to only the winners went into europe, but do remember reading that both the scottish cup finalists have to finish in the top 4 of the spl for the spl's 5th place team to qualify.

Total joke again, it has to be changed for next season.

I just think that it is a joke that it is so unclear!

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if they win the cup,,,,,,,,,,,if not 4th place gets it,,,,,,,,,,had the huns played ross cty in the finale then maybe
then again i could be wrong
hb

Assuming league standings remain and Dundee Utd win cup

Rangers and Celtic Champs League

Cup Win - Dundee Utd - Europa
4th Place - Hibs - Europa
5th Place - Motherwell - Europa

I think that the only way for Ross County to get into the Europa Cup would be if Dundee Utd got 2nd place or Ross County win the cup.

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Assuming league standings remain and Dundee Utd win cup

Rangers and Celtic Champs League

Cup Win - Dundee Utd - Europa
4th Place - Hibs - Europa
5th Place - Motherwell - Europa

I think that the only way for Ross County to get into the Europa Cup would be if Dundee Utd got 2nd place or Ross County win the cup.

You sure?

[Borders Hibby]

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Assuming league standings remain and Dundee Utd win cup

Rangers and Celtic Champs League

Cup Win - Dundee Utd - Europa
4th Place - Hibs - Europa
5th Place - Motherwell - Europa

I think that the only way for Ross County to get into the Europa Cup would be if Dundee Utd got 2nd place or Ross County win the cup.

I do not doubt you but everyone just "thinks" what it "might" be. Is it not a disgrace that the league and sfa dont make it clear!!!!

[ballengeich]

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Assuming league standings remain and Dundee Utd win cup

Rangers and Celtic Champs League

Cup Win - Dundee Utd - Europa
4th Place - Hibs - Europa
5th Place - Motherwell - Europa

I think that the only way for Ross County to get into the Europa Cup would be if Dundee Utd got 2nd place or Ross County win the cup.

Correct. It's also worth noting that the rules on cup runners-up qualifying are set by UEFA and not by the SFA. Several previous threads have covered the subject.

[Sir David Gray]

I was always under the impression that if the winners of the cup have already qualified for Europe (either CL or Europa) then the runners up get into the Europa League, if they haven't finished in the top four.

I have been told on a couple of occasions in the past few days that I am wrong and that the winners must finish in the CL for the runners up to get into Europe.

I have seen nothing official (even though I have looked) that says yay or nay on this issue.

[noseyhibby]

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If true what a joke, another lower league team getting in and dropping the country's coefficient points down

Errrrr What exactly have Hibs, Hearts etc etc etc, in fact any team out with the old firm done for our co-efficient these past 10 years? Ross County can do no worse than the rest of our teams in europe. Give them their wee shot in the sun. It is at least a welcome sideshow for our own dismal performances on the domestic front.

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Assuming league standings remain and Dundee Utd win cup

Rangers and Celtic Champs League

Cup Win - Dundee Utd - Europa
4th Place - Hibs - Europa
5th Place - Motherwell - Europa

I think that the only way for Ross County to get into the Europa Cup would be if Dundee Utd got 2nd place or Ross County win the cup.

thot we only had 2 places in champions league + 2 places on eorpa cup
hb

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thot we only had 2 places in champions league + 2 places on eorpa cup
hb

Nope, we have five European places next season (two CL and three EL). From the year after, we will lose a CL place but we still keep three EL places.

[iwasthere1972]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...6908-22177782/

Read second last paragraph. You can always trust a member of parliament.

[budgiemcb]

County are defo in Europe!

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottis...ish-cup-final/

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thot we only had 2 places in champions league + 2 places on eorpa cup
hb

1st and 2nd champions league. 3rd and 4th europe.

+ 1 extra place from the cup.

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County are defo in Europe!

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottis...ish-cup-final/

The article says

If either Ross County or Raith Rovers win through to a final with either of the Glasgow teams, they will enter the Europa League at the play-off round.

They're both out.

[Borders Hibby]

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The article says

If either Ross County or Raith Rovers win through to a final with either of the Glasgow teams, they will enter the Europa League at the play-off round.

They're both out.

Straight from the scorrish league website!

Europa League
The competition will feature a group stage of 48 teams. The holders and the 10 teams beaten in the play-offs for the Champions League qualify automatically and are joined by 37 qualifiers. The top two from each section go through to the knock-out stage, where they are joined by the eight clubs finishing third in their Champions League group.

Scotland again have three places for 2010/11. The Scottish Cup winners have one tie to negotiate to reach the group stage as they enter at the play-off stage on August 19 & 26, the third-placed side in the Clydesdale Bank Premier League join in qualifying round three on July 29 & August 5 and the team finishing fourth come in at qualifying round two on July 15 & 22.

The fifth-placed team in the SPL will also qualify for the Europa League if the cup final is contested by two teams who have already qualified for Europe via the SPL.

The final will take place in Dublin on Wednesday May 18, 2011.

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Errrrr What exactly have Hibs, Hearts etc etc etc, in fact any team out with the old firm done for our co-efficient these past 10 years? Ross County can do no worse than the rest of our teams in europe. Give them their wee shot in the sun. It is at least a welcome sideshow for our own dismal performances on the domestic front.

I agree, just think that it is rank wrotten that it is so unclear!

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Straight from the scorrish league website!

Europa League
The competition will feature a group stage of 48 teams. The holders and the 10 teams beaten in the play-offs for the Champions League qualify automatically and are joined by 37 qualifiers. The top two from each section go through to the knock-out stage, where they are joined by the eight clubs finishing third in their Champions League group.

Scotland again have three places for 2010/11. The Scottish Cup winners have one tie to negotiate to reach the group stage as they enter at the play-off stage on August 19 & 26, the third-placed side in the Clydesdale Bank Premier League join in qualifying round three on July 29 & August 5 and the team finishing fourth come in at qualifying round two on July 15 & 22.

The fifth-placed team in the SPL will also qualify for the Europa League if the cup final is contested by two teams who have already qualified for Europe via the SPL.

The final will take place in Dublin on Wednesday May 18, 2011.

Oh well, Ross County in Europe it is and now we have a 3 way fight for 4th place and the final Europa League slot.

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The article says

If either Ross County or Raith Rovers win through to a final with either of the Glasgow teams, they will enter the Europa League at the play-off round.

They're both out.

"As it stands, the qualification slot given from the Scottish Cup catapults the recipients ahead of the SPL teams in the qualifying stages."

In the same article if you read it fully! Utd are as good as qualified through the league so Ross County get the European spot through being in the cup final!

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Straight from the scorrish league website!

Europa League
The competition will feature a group stage of 48 teams. The holders and the 10 teams beaten in the play-offs for the Champions League qualify automatically and are joined by 37 qualifiers. The top two from each section go through to the knock-out stage, where they are joined by the eight clubs finishing third in their Champions League group.

Scotland again have three places for 2010/11. The Scottish Cup winners have one tie to negotiate to reach the group stage as they enter at the play-off stage on August 19 & 26, the third-placed side in the Clydesdale Bank Premier League join in qualifying round three on July 29 & August 5 and the team finishing fourth come in at qualifying round two on July 15 & 22.

The fifth-placed team in the SPL will also qualify for the Europa League if the cup final is contested by two teams who have already qualified for Europe via the SPL.

The final will take place in Dublin on Wednesday May 18, 2011.

The way I am reading that is that if Dundee Utd win the final then 5th place in SPL get Europa Cup place. If Ross County win final then they get into Europe and only 3rd and 4th spot in SPL qualify for Europa Cup.

Simples.

[Borders Hibby]

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"As it stands, the qualification slot given from the Scottish Cup catapults the recipients ahead of the SPL teams in the qualifying stages."

In the same article if you read it fully! Utd are as good as qualified through the league so Ross County get the European spot through being in the cup final!

I agree!

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The way I am reading that is that if Dundee Utd win the final then 5th place in SPL get Europa Cup place. If Ross County win final then they get into Europe and only 3rd and 4th spot in SPL qualify for Europa Cup.

Simples.

You are wrong.

[budgiemcb]

[QUOTE=Borders Hibby;2424662]Straight from the scorrish league website!

Europa League
The competition will feature a group stage of 48 teams. The holders and the 10 teams beaten in the play-offs for the Champions League qualify automatically and are joined by 37 qualifiers. The top two from each section go through to the knock-out stage, where they are joined by the eight clubs finishing third in their Champions League group.

Scotland again have three places for 2010/11. The Scottish Cup winners have one tie to negotiate to reach the group stage as they enter at the play-off stage on August 19 & 26, the third-placed side in the Clydesdale Bank Premier League join in qualifying round three on July 29 & August 5 and the team finishing fourth come in at qualifying round two on July 15 & 22.

The fifth-placed team in the SPL will also qualify for the Europa League if the cup final is contested by two teams who have already qualified for Europe via the SPL.

The final will take place in Dublin on Wednesday May 18, 2011.
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The final is not being contested by sides qualified for Europe through the SPL so County get the spot!

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Straight from the scorrish league website!

Europa League
The competition will feature a group stage of 48 teams. The holders and the 10 teams beaten in the play-offs for the Champions League qualify automatically and are joined by 37 qualifiers. The top two from each section go through to the knock-out stage, where they are joined by the eight clubs finishing third in their Champions League group.

Scotland again have three places for 2010/11. The Scottish Cup winners have one tie to negotiate to reach the group stage as they enter at the play-off stage on August 19 & 26, the third-placed side in the Clydesdale Bank Premier League join in qualifying round three on July 29 & August 5 and the team finishing fourth come in at qualifying round two on July 15 & 22.

The fifth-placed team in the SPL will also qualify for the Europa League if the cup final is contested by two teams who have already qualified for Europe via the SPL.

The final will take place in Dublin on Wednesday May 18, 2011.(Europa final)

Thats that then.

[iwasthere1972]

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You are wrong.

Come to think about it, I think you're correct.

I'm trying to watch the final 20 minutes of Spurs v Pompey.