If it's a Ross/Dundee utd final, what's the euro implications?
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Thread: Did the rule change?
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10-04-2010 12:32 PM #1
Did the rule change?
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10-04-2010 12:40 PM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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10-04-2010 12:43 PM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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10-04-2010 12:46 PM #4
i'm sure falkirk last season were to be the last runners-up in the SC to get a spot in europe...i could be wrong(and probably am) but with ross county winning here i hope i'm right
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10-04-2010 01:05 PM #5
Re: Did the rule change?
They've just said on the radio that Ross are now in Europe. Let's hope it's a "BBC sport understands...."
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10-04-2010 01:07 PM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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10-04-2010 01:08 PM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'm certain that the SFA were told it wasn't their decision to make as it's the same in all European Countries.
I know this is only Wikipedia, but it seems to agree with the BBC.
European qualification
Rangers playing FC Barcelona at the Camp Nou in the 2007–08 Champions League
The Scottish Premier League is currently thirteenth in UEFA's co-efficient ranking, meaning that for the 2010–11 season, two SPL clubs will qualify for the UEFA Champions League (the SPL champions, who enter the third qualifying round for champions (unless the defending champions have already qualified to the group stages, in which case the SPL champions will enter the group stages directly), and the runner-up, who enter the third qualifying round for non-champions) as well as two qualifying for the UEFA Europa League (the third and fourth placed clubs). The winners of the Scottish Cup also qualify for the UEFA Europa League.
If the Scottish Cup winners have qualified for the UEFA Champions League, the final UEFA Europa League place is given to the runner-up. Clubs also had the opportunity to apply for qualification to the UEFA Intertoto Cup before it was folded into the Europa League; qualification for that event was given to the highest placed applicant, although only two clubs chose to play in the tournament since the SPL's inception in 1998–99 (Dundee in 2001 and Hibernian in 2004, 2006 and 2008). Clubs may also qualify for Europe via the UEFA Fair Play ranking.
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10-04-2010 01:11 PM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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10-04-2010 01:44 PM #10
Seems if United finish third and win the cup the cup runners-up don't go into Europe. If United finish second (and therefore qualify for the Champions League) and win the cup the cup runners-up do go into Europe.
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10-04-2010 01:45 PM #11This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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10-04-2010 02:50 PM #13
We are going all around the houses on this issue.
Firstly the rules have not changed. The attempt was knocked back by UEFA because they were keen to recognize the importance of the national cup competition not due to incorrect paperwork by the SFA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Cup
Secondly Ross County will only be in european competition if they win the SFA Cup or if they are beaten by Dundee United and they also displace Celtic for second in the SPL.
Radio Scotland got this wrong earlier.
The rules are that the winner of the SFA Cup will enter the EUROPA League UNLESS they have qualified for the Champions' League in which case it goes to the beaten finalist.
This has happened lots of times recently with Falkirk, Queen of the South, Dunfermline, Gretna all getting in by the back door.
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10-04-2010 02:53 PM #14
on the 2 games against us and 1 against celtic they are better equipped for europe than us
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10-04-2010 03:34 PM #15
What Jgl said. Dundee Utd have to finish 2nd or Ross County win the cup for that to happen.
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