is it worth the money

**bighairyfaeleith** · 21-03-2010 05:00 AM

Been thinking this morning about if I really want to keep giving hibs my hard earned cash for the rest of the season if performances continue like this.

I know you should support your team through thick and thin but watching this team is starting to depress me, I'm not sure I want to spend my free time watching this sort of football.

I can stand to lose, I'm a hibs fan, I'm used to that. What I can't stand is to watch us no longer pass the ball, no longer fight to get the ball back. What has happened to this team?

Yesterday, won't be my last hibs game this season, but I suspect I won't be at every game now either.

**IWasThere2016** · 21-03-2010 05:32 AM

I understand your view completely - cue derision from die Uberfannen!

For me it is the time and the not the cost of attending however..

I have other family things to do on a Saturday, and given I work hard I cherish the weekend - case in point being I've < 4 hours sleep and I'm off to golf in 30 mins. And because of the commitments I have, I missed the first 30 mins yesterday!

Without the hope of some things I'd expect to see at ER eg decent football, commitment, passing, touch, composure, goals, tactics, pace etc (we're devoid of most if not all of these just now) I too am wondering when I'll get back to see the Hibs.

The next chance is looking like a post-split game at Tanna or Perf (assuming they pip the Yams)

**hibiedude** · 21-03-2010 05:48 AM

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I understand your view completely - cue derision from die Uberfannen!

For me it is the time and the not the cost of attending however..

I have other family things to do on a Saturday, and given I work hard I cherish the weekend - case in point being I've < 4 hours sleep and I'm off to golf in 30 mins. And because of the commitments I have, I missed the first 30 mins yesterday!

Without the hope of some things I'd expect to see at ER eg decent football, commitment, passing, touch, composure, goals, tactics, pace etc (we're devoid of most if not all of these just now) I too am wondering when I'll get back to see the Hibs.

The next chance is looking like a post-split game at Tanna or Perf (assuming they pip the Yams)

Great post because for years my family played second fiddle at the weekend due to my support for Hibs but glad to say thats over now thanks to Mixu.

Football is a hobby these days that fits around my family life, you'll get young lads on shortly telling us that were not true Hibs fans.

**~~Fife-Hibee~~** · 21-03-2010 10:09 AM

I know where you are coming from. Im a season ticket holder and cant stand watching much more of this mince. Ive also been to most away games, perth and hamilton included. Apart from the odd game 'i dont think weve played that well this season, carried a lot of luck more than anything else. Time to get back to basics.. On a side note' did anyone notice Stack giving Yogi the up yours sign after lumping the ball back to their keeper for about the second or third time,just wondering if thats was what he was told to do. Didnt seem to happy about doing it..

***matty_f*** · 21-03-2010 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith

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Been thinking this morning about if I really want to keep giving hibs my hard earned cash for the rest of the season if performances continue like this.

I know you should support your team through thick and thin but watching this team is starting to depress me, I'm not sure I want to spend my free time watching this sort of football.

I can stand to lose, I'm a hibs fan, I'm used to that. What I can't stand is to watch us no longer pass the ball, no longer fight to get the ball back. What has happened to this team?

Yesterday, won't be my last hibs game this season, but I suspect I won't be at every game now either.

Hibs put the ticket money directly into the team. Any cut in that means less to spend on the team, means poorer standard.

I'd plea with you to keep going, and understand that building a team does not always happen overnight.

**Gatecrasher** · 21-03-2010 10:27 AM

Scottish football has been over priced for years and it feels worse when your team is *****, I don't go to many away games cos it's just not worth it any more

***Hermit Crab*** · 21-03-2010 10:58 AM

I have not missed an away game all season but have missed 4 or 5 home games due to work, i have a season ticket but i am having second thoughts on whether to 1 Renew this next season. 2 Continue going to away games next season as the performances never get any better and the prices keep going up to rediculous highs. What got to me was being at Ibrox Perth then Motherwell in the space of 6 days paying a total of about £150-£200 in admission fees travel,food and drink etc and got absolute dross in return. No passion grit dig fight nothing, and im not prepared to keep paying good money that i work all month for to watch this season after season. Slate me if you want but its just my opinion i am fed up now.

***lucky*** · 21-03-2010 11:02 AM

As someone who works away a lot. Spent last 6 days in London. Came home and went to PBS and now up in Aberdeen. I cherish my family time but I also like my me time. As such any game I can go to I do, Including Dingwall. Going to the game is more than the ressult. Yes its important but so is the laugh with your mates. So Hibs are playing poorly so what also what's new. If you want Barca style footie watch them. Me ill stick will going to watch the Hibees

**seanraff07** · 21-03-2010 11:26 AM

I'm 15 and i use the majority of the money i've got following Hibs as i'v only missed 3 games this season. And because of this it does piss me off when we are playing utter balls and show no desire, i can't see myself going to every game when i'm older but i will make the effort to get to as many as i can, but Scottish football is over priced for both Concessions and Adults considering what's on offer, and the prices are getting more and more each year.

**Franck is God** · 21-03-2010 02:33 PM

At times its not been great this season but if you don't go every week (at least to ER anyway) then it does mean less money to improve the squad and you'll miss it when we do eventually click and we see the master class of football we all crave.

I have left ER a good number of times this season pleased with what I've seen, our stadium is being completed in the summer, the club are about to launch a new payment scheme to get your ST which will make it far more affordable for everyone.

I have a good feeling that Easter Road next season is where all football fans are going to want to be!

**hibs1875** · 21-03-2010 03:33 PM

top thread !

I work hard every week to support the family and have a little left over to watch hibs (both home and away )

But i too am getting to the point of no return !

If i was to perform like that week in week out at work i'd be sacked

I understand it takes time to build a team and i support yogi 100% but over the last few weeks the performance of the team has been half hearted and its so demoralizing !

As a fan i dont mind my team losing (once in a while) as i know we can't win every game .And as long as the team give 100% and are seen trying !

But of late thiers been know effort or commitment from most of the players in the hibs shirt which is just soul destroying !

But hey is it worth it offcourse it is

I just drink more beer to knumb the pain

Yogi will come good in the end and sort them out

**~~Vince White~~** · 21-03-2010 04:26 PM

I would say it is NOT worth the money at present. I'm long enough in the tooth to know that with supporting Hibs comes regular disappointment, but what I really find hard to accept is when you pay your money and don't at least get some fight from the players in return. If they look like they can't be bothered why should you turn over your cash to them?

**~~Iggy Pope~~** · 21-03-2010 04:30 PM

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I understand your view completely - cue derision from die Uberfannen!

For me it is the time and the not the cost of attending however..

I have other family things to do on a Saturday, and given I work hard I cherish the weekend - case in point being I've < 4 hours sleep and I'm off to golf in 30 mins. And because of the commitments I have, I missed the first 30 mins yesterday!

Without the hope of some things I'd expect to see at ER eg decent football, commitment, passing, touch, composure, goals, tactics, pace etc (we're devoid of most if not all of these just now) I too am wondering when I'll get back to see the Hibs.

The next chance is looking like a post-split game at Tanna or Perf (assuming they pip the Yams)

You would not need to be an uberfan to prefer watching the Hibs to playing golf.
Surely.
Dearie, dearie me.

**~~Iggy Pope~~** · 21-03-2010 04:34 PM

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I would say it is NOT worth the money at present. I'm long enough in the tooth to know that with supporting Hibs comes regular disappointment, but what I really find hard to accept is when you pay your money and don't at least get some fight from the players in return. If they look like they can't be bothered why should you turn over your cash to them?

It can only be about money then Vince, old son.

I've been watching Hibs since 1971 and I think I've had maybe 10 seasons that I could call good.
Doesn't stop me though, or the people I can call friends and family that I go with.

**Hibby Bairn** · 21-03-2010 05:13 PM

Watched hibs for 30 years and I take my 2 boys now as well where we are all ST holders along with father in law. Bored, bored, bored.

The boys don't want to go now. They didn't even watch the game on tv yesterday. For the first time I had a 'couldn't care less' attitude after a derby.

All costs to much and there is too much of a gap now between the pay of those watching and those playing.

I don't think we'll be renewing which will be £700 less for hibs up front and we will just pick and choose games.

**stubru59** · 21-03-2010 05:19 PM

If we lose to Ross County its fair to say the season is more or less over.

Some will no doubt claim the contrary, but that's the proverbial head in the sand job. We are where we are because we lack players who can pass the ball to a team mate.

We lack much more, but no amount of whinging is going to sort that before the season is complete.

My only hope is that Hughes deals with the obvious coaching mistakes sooner rather than later.

***18Craig75*** · 21-03-2010 05:24 PM

Personally get to every game I can. Although I don't have any family commitments or large bills to pay so I can completely understand people who don't go for those reasons.

I sometimes wonder why (I'll be at Dingwall on Tuesday) but I find that question normally gets answered when we have a 2-1 at Celtic Park, or 1-0 at Tynecastle. For every high there will be a low. It's the Hibs way.

Keep the faith!

***blackpoolhibs*** · 21-03-2010 05:48 PM

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If we lose to Ross County its fair to say the season is more or less over.

Some will no doubt claim the contrary, but that's the proverbial head in the sand job. We are where we are because we lack players who can pass the ball to a team mate.

We lack much more, but no amount of whinging is going to sort that before the season is complete.

My only hope is that Hughes deals with the obvious coaching mistakes sooner rather than later.

**jdships** · 21-03-2010 06:00 PM

Good and sensible thread bighairyfaeleith

I am at the stage in my life now that my savings are dwindling and my health , while OK in general , is not up to sitting in cold & wet conditions.
This allied to what is on offer on the park is pushing me closer and closer to calling it a day on visits to ER.
Football is about entertainment and I cannot in my heart of hearts justify keeping on shelling out to watch SPL football.
The league set up , alone, doesn't lend itself to being entertaining with teams playing each other ,in some cases, six times a season
I intend , hopefully ,to take in one game when the new"East" is built just for "old time sake" but after 70 years I reckon that will be that
I will always remain a Hibby but it will be an "armchair" one from here on in

**Bob Box Fish** · 21-03-2010 06:12 PM

I make it up for about six games a season I was there yesterday and at killie game the other week. Both games were piss poor and can't say I was entertained in either.

Big IF we beat Ross county I was going to go to the semi but not going to waste my money.

Also pay for my dads season ticket he too is fed up and not interested in renewing next season mainly because of the standard of performances at ER.

I've been to 5 Newcastle games, anfield and elland road also this season. Think I will just pick and choose what games I fancy for the rest of the season other than travel up for that rubbish.

***Eaststand*** · 21-03-2010 06:21 PM

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Good and sensible thread bighairyfaeleith

I am at the stage in my life now that my savings are dwindling and my health , while OK in general , is not up to sitting in cold & wet conditions.
This allied to what is on offer on the park is pushing me closer and closer to calling it a day on visits to ER.
Football is about entertainment and I cannot in my heart of hearts justify keeping on shelling out to watch SPL football.
The league set up , alone, doesn't lend itself to being entertaining with teams playing each other ,in some cases, six times a season
I intend , hopefully ,to take in one game when the new"East" is built just for "old time sake" but after 70 years I reckon that will be that
I will always remain a Hibby but it will be an "armchair" one from here on in

There's a lot of very very good Hibbies on this thread who've supported Hibs for ages, and are considering if its all worth it..I'd not knock anyone who has to make that decision, and I've actually thought of it myself during the Bobby Wiliamson years...but I got over it.........yep, we're all at a low ebb after getting beat yesterday, and over the last couple of months the performances have been ***** mostly, BUT this is our club, and is a big big part of us all, and thats why we sit on Hibs.net on a Sunday night chatting about our club.
Yogi, you need to get it right, I've been told you read these pages...if so please make sure eveyone in our team knows what our club means to us, and if any of them can't hack it and give 100% when the pull on the green jersey, please ship them out to some nice wee job at another club where the expectations at the club might be less than ours are, and the under achievers , not trying too hard, but just going through the motions cheating another set of fans.

GGTTH

**noseyhibby** · 21-03-2010 06:33 PM

I now pick and choose my games, and have done so for the past 2 years since giving up my season ticket. Hibs give a poor return on a regular investment, and although I am a man of patience,there were only so many times I was prepared to walk away from ER shaking my head at what I had just witnessed. I want to be entertained and see my team give 100% effort. When effort itself is avoided by the majority of those in green and white, I despair and am angered to the point of refusing to spend my hard earned cash simply to go through the motions of watching my team. How can I be passionate when I, who earns far less,see young men earning unprecedented and much higher salaries so blase?

**bighairyfaeleith** · 21-03-2010 07:08 PM

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At times its not been great this season but if you don't go every week (at least to ER anyway) then it does mean less money to improve the squad and you'll miss it when we do eventually click and we see the master class of football we all crave.

I have left ER a good number of times this season pleased with what I've seen, our stadium is being completed in the summer, the club are about to launch a new payment scheme to get your ST which will make it far more affordable for everyone.

I have a good feeling that Easter Road next season is where all football fans are going to want to be!

I agree with a lot of that, and I am looking forward to the east being completed, still a lot of good things going on at the club, but the performances on the pitch just aren't one of them. I really hope the team start performing again and we can have a good run in.

See what happens I suppose

**son of haggart** · 21-03-2010 08:52 PM

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Good and sensible thread bighairyfaeleith

I am at the stage in my life now that my savings are dwindling and my health , while OK in general , is not up to sitting in cold & wet conditions.
This allied to what is on offer on the park is pushing me closer and closer to calling it a day on visits to ER.
Football is about entertainment and I cannot in my heart of hearts justify keeping on shelling out to watch SPL football.
The league set up , alone, doesn't lend itself to being entertaining with teams playing each other ,in some cases, six times a season
I intend , hopefully ,to take in one game when the new"East" is built just for "old time sake" but after 70 years I reckon that will be that
I will always remain a Hibby but it will be an "armchair" one from here on in

That's a real shame - but I agree with you about the league set up - I think back to the 18 team league of the old days - 17 home and away. The Rangers Celtic and derby games were huge ones, much anticipated. But now as you say in can be 6 times in a year and it diminishes their importance (and we are no closer really to breaking the oF dominance)

Something has to change

**jgl07** · 22-03-2010 01:44 PM

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You would not need to be an uberfan to prefer watching the Hibs to playing golf.
Surely.
Dearie, dearie me.

I would prefer to watch Hearts than play golf!

**Phil MaGlass** · 22-03-2010 01:48 PM

I stopped watching Hibs in the last months of the Mixu era,and that is something I have never done in my whole life,I do see us going through a transition period,but being mince like we have been recently is not going to keep the punters coming to ER,and its not going to keep me happy,I honestly love watchin us win lose or draw when we play great,I can handle a defeat if we have put everything into it and played some silky fitba,entertainment is what I want for my money and a bleedin Scottish Cup.

**noseyhibby** · 22-03-2010 01:53 PM

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,I honestly love watchin us win lose or draw when we play great,I can handle a defeat if we have put everything into it and played some silky fitba,entertainment is what I want for my money and a bleedin Scottish Cup.

I agree. talking of "bleedin scottish cup" All I can say is that my eyes have been bleeding watching us labour our way through this tournament.

**Phil MaGlass** · 22-03-2010 01:55 PM

YI BETTER GET YIR BANDAGES OOT COS ITS AW GONNAE START AGAIN AGAINST RC,BUGGER caps

**The_Todd** · 22-03-2010 06:38 PM

No SPL team is worth the extortionate amount of money the tickets cost these days, but then football fans aren't a logical breed.

Against my better judgement I'll be there for our next home game, and I'll love to hate every minute of it.

***judas*** · 22-03-2010 06:59 PM

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Been thinking this morning about if I really want to keep giving hibs my hard earned cash for the rest of the season if performances continue like this.

I know you should support your team through thick and thin but watching this team is starting to depress me, I'm not sure I want to spend my free time watching this sort of football.

I can stand to lose, I'm a hibs fan, I'm used to that. What I can't stand is to watch us no longer pass the ball, no longer fight to get the ball back. What has happened to this team?

Yesterday, won't be my last hibs game this season, but I suspect I won't be at every game now either.

It isn't worth it, no.

I can take my family to the cinema, sit in a comfy reclining leather seat in a nice warm room with other civilised people.

I can then watch something that cost over £100 million to make, whilst sipping wine and eating chocolates. It will cost us all about £35 quid - in total.

Or I could sit in the freezing cold with only the warm breath of some angry salivating bird brained ringpiece behind me, spitting profanities over me and my family toward someone who can't even hear him.

Then I can spend 2 hours trying to digest the pie I could not wash down with bovril, because some dick kicked it over whilst gesticulating like a gibbon about how 'it was never a foul!'

The latter option will cost me about £60 to £80 quid. But that excludes the glossy advertising booklet - otherwise known as the matchday programme - in which every 4 pages or so we get to read about players favourite colours and see pictures of previous teams who were also pish.

Football is a rip off.