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    Penalties

    Riordan & Benji want to take them but they miss.
    Give Stokes the ball, he looks as if he could take them with hid eyes shut. Until he misses, of course.
    Thought Benji put in a decent shift until then.
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    Benji had every right to take it considering he both won the penalty and scored his last few kicks.

    From now on though it should definitely be Stokes until(if) he misses.

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    For a guy that hasn't played much for us lately, whereas Stokes plays every week and scored from the spot last week, it was a no brainer for me, surely Stokes takes the PK.

    However, as Benji grabbed the ball I guess it was his to take.

    The bigger picture for me though is why is Hughes or Hogg, as captain, not deciding? It's the same for free kicks in and around the box usually........DR, AS, MZ all clamouring to take. Should the captain, especially for PK's not assert his authority.......if he has any?

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    Get Stack to take it. Goalies put their foot right through the ball, he'll burst the net.

    Or hit row Z

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    Quote Originally Posted by MussyHibby View Post
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    For a guy that hasn't played much for us lately, whereas Stokes plays every week and scored from the spot last week, it was a no brainer for me, surely Stokes takes the PK.

    However, as Benji grabbed the ball I guess it was his to take.

    The bigger picture for me though is why is Hughes or Hogg, as captain, not deciding? It's the same for free kicks in and around the box usually........DR, AS, MZ all clamouring to take. Should the captain, especially for PK's not assert his authority.......if he has any?
    It's got nothing to do with Hogg. You should always give it to the guy who feels most confident at that moment, not someone who you've selected beforehand.

    Benji won it and felt confident - don't have a problem with him taking it. Sure, he missed, but that can happen to the best of them.

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    It never ceases to amaze me how professional footballers can take such bad penalties.

    Benji's today was a feeble attempt. Just plain lazy. Stokes last week wasn't much better.

    If you want to execute a penalty look at how Boyd banged it away against us at Ibrox a few weeks back.

    If a keeper makes a tremendous save to the bottom corner then fine, supporters can accept it. But when a keeper barely has to move to save a penalty that player doesnt deserve to take the next one IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamo9 View Post
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    It's got nothing to do with Hogg. You should always give it to the guy who feels most confident at that moment, not someone who you've selected beforehand.

    Benji won it and felt confident - don't have a problem with him taking it. Sure, he missed, but that can happen to the best of them.
    Disagree with you mate. Not saying Hogg should decide but he should be involved. PK scored last week by Stokes. Why doesn't he take it? Benji wants to take it. Discussion/involvemnt with all 3.

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    Stokes is our top goalscorer, at most clubs the top goal scorer normally takes the penalties, that is why they are usually top goalscorers simple as that. Look at Boyd for instance. Its not really rocket science is it.

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    With all due respect lads, it's a football game. There can't be 5 minutes of discussion about who takes what free kick or penalty. I've never been one to agree with the whole 'One for free kicks, one for penalties' (not since Russell and Franck, anyway).

    I say just let whoever feels most confident take it. If Deeks thinks he can smack in a 25yd free kick into the postage stamp corner, let him go for it. If Benji thinks he can score the penalty then let him do it. If he fails, then that's football, as others have said.

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    Their sub keeper had a couple of good stops today as nearly always seems to be the way when they have a keeper carried off. He fortunately looked like a cross between Andy McNeill and Frodo's mate in Lord of The Rings.......with a hint of ginger. Looked like he has sampled a fair few Killie pies whilst warming the bench too.

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    according to my dad, sitting in the lower west, the keeper was off his line when Benji took his penalty. pretty sure that if caught, the penalty is retaken, or i am i just making that up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady View Post
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    It never ceases to amaze me how professional footballers can take such bad penalties.

    Benji's today was a feeble attempt. Just plain lazy. Stokes last week wasn't much better.

    If you want to execute a penalty look at how Boyd banged it away against us at Ibrox a few weeks back.

    If a keeper makes a tremendous save to the bottom corner then fine, supporters can accept it. But when a keeper barely has to move to save a penalty that player doesnt deserve to take the next one IMO.
    So you are now complaining about a penalty that was scored then? We really are hitting new heights with this one.Stokes last week was much better as it went in,sending the keeper the wrong way aswell.You are hard to please.
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    The keeper can move along the line before the penalty, but he can't move forward!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wee Hibby View Post
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    according to my dad, sitting in the lower west, the keeper was off his line when Benji took his penalty. pretty sure that if caught, the penalty is retaken, or i am i just making that up?
    Every keeper does it these days. Not allowed but rarely reprimanded.

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    Benji has been a good penalty taker for Hibs. Yogi said last week after the game that Benji was the designated taker but he was on the bench, so Stokes took that one. I don't get the beef about that one.

    The referee should have ordered a retake as the goalkeeper clearly jumped forward of the line as it was being taken. But that would have required that clown to make an intelligent decision. Where are the SFA finding these people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wee Hibby View Post
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    according to my dad, sitting in the lower west, the keeper was off his line when Benji took his penalty. pretty sure that if caught, the penalty is retaken, or i am i just making that up?
    I think their keeper flattered to deceive, good saves but a bit theatrical.

    You're right about the keepers position/movement at a penalty but in the event of a miss or save a buffoon of a ref like the one today is unlikely to have it retaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MussyHibby View Post
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    For a guy that hasn't played much for us lately, whereas Stokes plays every week and scored from the spot last week, it was a no brainer for me, surely Stokes takes the PK.

    However, as Benji grabbed the ball I guess it was his to take.

    The bigger picture for me though is why is Hughes or Hogg, as captain, not deciding? It's the same for free kicks in and around the box usually........DR, AS, MZ all clamouring to take. Should the captain, especially for PK's not assert his authority.......if he has any?
    Surely we cant blame Hogg for this as well?!?!? Benji's pens have bn good, he won it so therefore should take it(imo) weve not got time for Hogg to jog up the park and have a discussion. I agree it looks daft wen our players are literally pulling the ball out each others hands at times, but on the flip side its a positive that weve got players with enough confidence to want to take things. Benji took our pen after coming off the bench against Aberdeen and slotted it away.

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    We should have one penalty taker, Stokes, and he should take them if he is on the pitch whether he won it or not.

    You just knew Benji would miss it today, was a very weak effort.

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    Players fighting amongst themselves over who takes the penalty is the sort of thing you see in amateur football. Stokes has been taking them and scoring so surely he should have taken the penalty regardless who was brought down. It up to Yogi to designate a penaty taker and unless he takes cold feet and doesn`t fancy it , he takes them. This could have cost us big time today.

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    We should have one penalty taker, Stokes, and he should take them if he is on the pitch whether he won it or not.

    You just knew Benji would miss it today, was a very weak effort.
    How did you know

    He took a penalty a few weeks ago and couldn't have placed it better iirc. I have no problem with Benji taking pens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 65bd View Post
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    How did you know

    He took a penalty a few weeks ago and couldn't have placed it better iirc. I have no problem with Benji taking pens.
    Just a feeling

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    Their sub keeper had a couple of good stops today as nearly always seems to be the way when they have a keeper carried off. He fortunately looked like a cross between Andy McNeill and Frodo's mate in Lord of The Rings.......with a hint of ginger. Looked like he has sampled a fair few Killie pies whilst warming the bench too.




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    Its about players having the 'killer instinct' (like Boyd does) and Stokes is the only player at Hibs that has that - he should take them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee_girl View Post
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    We should have one penalty taker, Stokes, and he should take them if he is on the pitch whether he won it or not.

    You just knew Benji would miss it today, was a very weak effort.
    Absolute nonsense IMO!

    Up till the keeper (illegally) saved the penalty, and until Galbraith came on, Benji was the only one of our players who looked like creating anything like a goal or even a goal chance!

    We had better buck up as a team before next week or else we'll not be going to Hampden this season!

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    Its about players having the 'killer instinct' (like Boyd does) and Stokes is the only player at Hibs that has that - he should take them.
    Killer instinct

    So has Stokes never missed a penalty? To save you googling it, yes he has. No one is perfect from 12 yards

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    So you are now complaining about a penalty that was scored then? We really are hitting new heights with this one.Stokes last week was much better as it went in,sending the keeper the wrong way aswell.You are hard to please.


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    Quote Originally Posted by whereswallace? View Post
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    So you are now complaining about a penalty that was scored then? We really are hitting new heights with this one.Stokes last week was much better as it went in,sending the keeper the wrong way aswell.You are hard to please.
    You should pay more attention to detail before posting stuff like this IMO!

    Stokes' penalty last week would have been saved easily had the keeper not chosen to dive to his right as it was only slightly to the right of centre looking at the goal when it crossed the line!

    There was no deception at play from Stokes' run up or striking action "persuading" the keeper to dive to his right either IMO!

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    Players fighting amongst themselves over who takes the penalty is the sort of thing you see in amateur football. Stokes has been taking them and scoring so surely he should have taken the penalty regardless who was brought down. It up to Yogi to designate a penaty taker and unless he takes cold feet and doesn`t fancy it , he takes them. This could have cost us big time today.

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    If I remember correctly after Benji's winning penalty a few weeks back everyone was saying what a great penalty taker he was and how lucky we are to have him

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    65db - "Killer instinct

    So has Stokes never missed a penalty? To save you googling it, yes he has. No one is perfect from 12 yards"

    You dont get it mate. Killer instinct = clinical.

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