Yogi (merged)

***NorthNorfolkHFC*** · 27-02-2010 04:45 PM

Didn't go up to Perth to watch hibs however, Yogi has to learn from his mistakes?
Today we go bullied by a big midfield and were painfully exposed at right/left back.
We lose EVERY 50/50 in midfield due to our midfield being vertically challenged. Furthermore, our fullbacks are constantly under pressure due to our lack of width in midfield.
I am just back and still can't work out the set-up in midfield? How Yogi can watch that confuses me and frustrates me!!

***Liam89*** · 27-02-2010 04:47 PM

A falkirk friend of my warned me of this, he said "yogi is a great manager but when things go wrong THINGS GO WRONG with him"

i hope he's wrong.

**Beefster** · 27-02-2010 04:47 PM

I'm more worried about his refusal to acknowledge that things are not working and make appropriate changes.

**~~The_Horde~~** · 27-02-2010 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Winnowhibs

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A falkirk friend of my warned me of this, he said "yogi is a great manager but when things go wrong THINGS GO WRONG with him"

i hope he's wrong.

A problem that also annoyed me about Mixu.

The only thing separating the two is that we know Yogi's system can work and will work again, once we get the confidence back.

Keep the faith.

***NorthNorfolkHFC*** · 27-02-2010 05:03 PM

I really want to get behind Yogi and support him but he continues to persist with this and is almost dogmatic!!!
He can't honestly watch that and expect to get a result?
I wonder what his game plan was today?
Everybody gives Nish a hard time but he was our ONLY attacking option. He wasn't great but remove him and what did we have today??

**weebobyct** · 27-02-2010 05:04 PM

he doesnt know how to make a sub ! still no sub by 84 minutes !

**mcfly** · 27-02-2010 05:04 PM

I'm sorry but HOGG must be dropped - he is useless, never wins a header, offers no leadership qualities and in my view is hopeless.

Why was smith dropped??

why does our midfield get bullied off every ball??

finally get duberry signed up....he won everything today and adds real steel to a defence.

we must get a win next week....yogi honeymoon is over get it sorted before its too late.

**archiebald** · 27-02-2010 05:13 PM

Dont think Yogi has got it,screamed at Hogg all day and yet he stayed on and he was terrible CAPTAIN NOT

Plus agree Duberry was brill

***NorthNorfolkHFC*** · 27-02-2010 05:21 PM

Not that i am an expert but he is over confusing things.

The fact he never made a sub is insignificant as we don't have any midfielders who actually meet the 'mature adult' criteria!!!

I thought Stack was pretty assured today but goalkeeping is far from our main worry just now.

We needed an RB and 'normal' sized midfielder, we failed to buy either!!!

With what we have got i would like to play.......

Any Goalie

Thicot/McCann?? Hogg Hanlon Murray

Wotherspoon Bamba Miller Riordan/Gow

Stokes Nish

Obviously RB is a problem, McCann unfit, Thicot unproven. I just think alot of what we do well comes through Wotherspoon, he is genuinely class act.

Bamba CAN play in midfield and would give us a big presence in there, its not HIS choice where he plays, its the managers!!!!!

**frazeHFC** · 27-02-2010 05:28 PM

I was at the away game and we just hoofed the ball to Stokes but Duberry easily got it, so today we do the same thing and again Duberry wins every ball, rediculous.

**mcfly** · 27-02-2010 05:31 PM

can anyone tell me why thicot cant get a game??

he must be better than hogg, he proved that at tynecastle.

give him a chance, put bamba into midfield and see if we can improve, we are an easy team to play against now and are easily out muscled.

riordan doesnt work hard enough and had his chances today to score.

very disappointed with the result, we are losing form at the wrong end of the season

**~~Alicky Ranks~~** · 27-02-2010 06:17 PM

I may be wrong, but it never struck me that Yogi did anything remarkable at Falkirk except keep them treading water the bottom six. They only avoided relegation on the last day of last season and it seems the fact they got to the Scottish Cup final masked what was an otherwise dire season. He made an impressive start at Hibs and he's been the first to stress he needs a lot more time to get things right, but at present he doesn't seem to be showing any aptitude for steering us out of the sudden tailspin we're in. I enjoy listening to Yogi talk about the game and his plans for Hibs, but we're now at a stage when we need more that. Is Yogi the man to restore the confidence which has so quickly evaporated?

***Alfred E Newman*** · 27-02-2010 06:17 PM

Yogi seems to have one way and one way only of setting out his teams and the other managers in the league have sussed out how to stop us playing. Unfortunately we don`t have many options where it matters which raises the question , why on earth did he sign another goalkeeper and another striker in the transfer window when everyone knows where the real weakness in the team is?

**Wotherspiniesta** · 27-02-2010 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Alicky Ranks

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I may be wrong, but it never struck me that Yogi did anything remarkable at Falkirk except keep them treading water the bottom six. They only avoided relegation on the last day of last season and it seems the fact they got to the Scottish Cup final masked what was an otherwise dire season. He made an impressive start at Hibs and he's been the first to stress he needs a lot more time to get things right, but at present he doesn't seem to be showing any aptitude for steering us out of the sudden tailspin we're in. I enjoy listening to Yogi talk about the game and his plans for Hibs, but we're now at a stage when we need more that. Is Yogi the man to restore the confidence which has so quickly evaporated?

IMO, yes.

***Simkin911*** · 27-02-2010 06:29 PM

Falkirk were perceived to be a decent footballing team with a stated intention of playing the ball on the ground. Hughes also managed to pull off some reasonable signings.

Of course, his credentials are now somewhat irrelevant. He's in the job so actually it's his performance and that of the team that count now.

We've spent a considerable section of the season to date in 3rd place. Tonight we slipped back to 4th. All is not lost... and Hughes deserves, for the progress thus far at least, some time and scope to continue his work.

We have some real quality in the squad, a fantastic training complex, stadium redevelopment, a manager who isn't just there for the cash and a fantastic low debt platform.

We gotta be amongst the luckiest fans in the UK..... despite the topsy turvy performances & results of the last few months.

**FRes Hibbie** · 27-02-2010 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Alicky Ranks

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I may be wrong, but it never struck me that Yogi did anything remarkable at Falkirk except keep them treading water the bottom six. They only avoided relegation on the last day of last season and it seems the fact they got to the Scottish Cup final masked what was an otherwise dire season. He made an impressive start at Hibs and he's been the first to stress he needs a lot more time to get things right, but at present he doesn't seem to be showing any aptitude for steering us out of the sudden tailspin we're in. I enjoy listening to Yogi talk about the game and his plans for Hibs, but we're now at a stage when we need more that. Is Yogi the man to restore the confidence which has so quickly evaporated?

You don't half talk pish. What a stupid, *****-stirring question.

Are you suggesting we get rid of him?

**Barney McGrew** · 27-02-2010 06:33 PM

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Is Yogi the man to restore the confidence which has so quickly evaporated?

Since he was the man that put the confidence in them in the first place, then yes I think he is.

**Westie1875** · 27-02-2010 06:35 PM

The pitches are affecting us too, we're not playing the ball on the deck as much as we should be due to the awful surfaces.

Yogi has done well so far but he needs to learn to make quicker decisions on subs, takes far too long to change things when games are not going well.

***hibee_girl*** · 27-02-2010 06:38 PM

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The pitches are affecting us too, we're not playing the ball on the deck as much as we should be due to the awful surfaces.

Yogi has done well so far but he needs to learn to make quicker decisions on subs, takes far too long to change things when games are not going well.

The only reason Zemmama came on today was because McBride had to go off injured

**Riordans Boots** · 27-02-2010 06:39 PM

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Since he was the man that put the confidence in them in the first place, then yes I think he is.

Amen.

***One Day Soon*** · 27-02-2010 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Alicky Ranks

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I may be wrong, but it never struck me that Yogi did anything remarkable at Falkirk except keep them treading water the bottom six. They only avoided relegation on the last day of last season and it seems the fact they got to the Scottish Cup final masked what was an otherwise dire season. He made an impressive start at Hibs and he's been the first to stress he needs a lot more time to get things right, but at present he doesn't seem to be showing any aptitude for steering us out of the sudden tailspin we're in. I enjoy listening to Yogi talk about the game and his plans for Hibs, but we're now at a stage when we need more that. Is Yogi the man to restore the confidence which has so quickly evaporated?

Sniff, sniff, sniff.

Is it still eye bleeding stuff at Pink Towers or don't you have a season ticket for the Pornstars?

**Hibby Bairn** · 27-02-2010 06:42 PM

No issue with Hughes at all. But Riordan was breathing out his arse with 20 mins to go. As was Nish.

With St J chasing the game I think he should have put Benji, Gow or Zemmama on then and we would have scored a second and won the game.

**Twa Cairpets** · 27-02-2010 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Alicky Ranks

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I may be wrong, but it never struck me that Yogi did anything remarkable at Falkirk except keep them treading water the bottom six. They only avoided relegation on the last day of last season and it seems the fact they got to the Scottish Cup final masked what was an otherwise dire season. He made an impressive start at Hibs and he's been the first to stress he needs a lot more time to get things right, but at present he doesn't seem to be showing any aptitude for steering us out of the sudden tailspin we're in. I enjoy listening to Yogi talk about the game and his plans for Hibs, but we're now at a stage when we need more that. Is Yogi the man to restore the confidence which has so quickly evaporated?

You've been on like some type of vulture of doom a lot over the past couple of weeks, posting p!sh and apparently taking huge pleasure in a sticky patch.

Get a grip, give it time, and I hope your knee being embedded in your chin doesnt hurt too much.

**Iain G** · 27-02-2010 06:43 PM

If we were still getting bullied around in the midfield, why not change it and put Murray and/or Bamba in there to try and win the ball back, could easily have swapped Murray and Stevenson, or pushed Bamba up, Murray to CD and Stevenson to LB without making any subs...

**Sir David Gray** · 27-02-2010 06:56 PM

I think it's far too early to start questioning his position as manager and asking whether or not he's the right man for the job. He needs a lot more than just 3/4 of a season and two transfer windows to really build his own team and stamp his complete authority on the side.

However, the current run of form that we are on (not just results but also the performances) are extremely disappointing and very frustrating because we are now in serious danger of throwing away all the great work that was done at the beginning of the season. We are now down to 4th and only a few points above Motherwell, even Hearts are now slowly creeping up on us.

Apart from the recent matches against Rangers and St Johnstone, we haven't been losing too many goals in games but at the same time, I don't think we have carried a great attacking threat for quite some time and we aren't creating many chances either. For a team that has the kind of forward players that we have at our disposal, that is not good enough.

Hopefully this slump can be ended as soon as possible because we really need to get that winning feeling back.

**erskine-hibby** · 27-02-2010 06:57 PM

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I'm more worried about his refusal to acknowledge that things are not working and make appropriate changes.

Quite

**jabis** · 27-02-2010 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Alicky Ranks

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I may be wrong, but it never struck me that Yogi did anything remarkable at Falkirk except keep them treading water the bottom six. They only avoided relegation on the last day of last season and it seems the fact they got to the Scottish Cup final masked what was an otherwise dire season. He made an impressive start at Hibs and he's been the first to stress he needs a lot more time to get things right, but at present he doesn't seem to be showing any aptitude for steering us out of the sudden tailspin we're in. I enjoy listening to Yogi talk about the game and his plans for Hibs, but we're now at a stage when we need more that. Is Yogi the man to restore the confidence which has so quickly evaporated?

Life is a learning curve,learn about paragraphs,and your laughing.

As for the rest of your keek,GGTTH.

Yogi rules !

**erskine-hibby** · 27-02-2010 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by H18SVG

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He has an eye for a player,
he has the tactical nous to change the pattern of a game simply through instruction from the touchline,
He can turn a game with the timely introduction of a substitute or two.

Just for starters,

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Sorry I don't see any sign of that lately, do you??

He was hired because he is a Hibby and he was cheap.
I'm not saying he is not the man for the job though, but it seems he has a lot of learning to do himself.

***Jones28*** · 27-02-2010 07:03 PM

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He has an eye for a player,
he has the tactical nous to change the pattern of a game simply through instruction from the touchline,
He can turn a game with the timely introduction of a substitute or two.

Just for starters,

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didnt happen today though

***Bayern Bru*** · 27-02-2010 07:06 PM

Yogi works well with younger players - he showed this at Falkirk by bringing through young players consistently, Arfield being the obvious mention.

He doesn't resort to signing foreigners from ahem, the French Second Division to patch up the team. If you consider every signing Hughes has made, they've all been either English, Irish or Scottish. I could be wrong but my guess would be that he feels to compete successfully - or at least, competently - in Scottish football, you need Scottish-based players, or players who are used to the Scottish (or British, at a stretch) style of play.

Our starting 11 today, with the exception of Stack, were either Scottish, had been playing in Scotland for a considerable amount of time before joining Hibs, or had at some point played in Scotland.

Just a theory though, I could be entirely wrong.