I hate to say it but... (can we fill 20,000 stadium?)

***Jones28*** · 22-02-2010 03:02 PM

When we are averaging attendences of 10-11000 will our new stadium spend most of it's time only half full?

***Mikey*** · 22-02-2010 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Jones28

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When we are averaging attendences of 10-11000 will our new stadium spend most of it's time only half full?

You've been listening to Jambos too often young man.

What's our average home attendance for league games this season?

***Mikey*** · 22-02-2010 03:08 PM

I'll answer that for you. It's 12,848.

Stop listening to jambos!

**RoxburghHibs** · 22-02-2010 03:12 PM

If we were to only sell tickets for the top tier of the North stand, once all others are sold, would that not reduce the capacity by about 1900 and help with atmosphere?

**Rory89** · 22-02-2010 03:12 PM

If we can get 3rd and have a new stand ready for the new season than crowd numbers will rise, providing Hibs make their season ticket prices reasonable.

I also think that Hibs should really make an effort to make a big signing in the summer, as it will have a good effect on attendances and therefore cash flow as well as on the pitch.

***Mikey*** · 22-02-2010 03:15 PM

I think the introduction of 10 monthly payments, as outlined at the AGM, will help increase ST numbers.

40 quid a month is a lot better than a 400 quid one off outlay.

It's up to us to fill the place and create the atmosphere!

**ahibby** · 22-02-2010 03:15 PM

I hope that with more seats to fill they can reduce the price of all STs making it a more attractive deal for all. If we can make Europe and have a night like we had at the Athens game the atmosphere will be astounding.

**K.Marx** · 22-02-2010 03:19 PM

i think the new stand itself will lure a couple thousand more punters in initially...even if its just out of curiosity of seeing the stadium completed and they just pay at the gate for a few games. Then hopefully the team will produce something on the park that makes them want to come back!

**SlickShoes** · 22-02-2010 03:22 PM

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I think the introduction of 10 monthly payments, as outlined at the AGM, will help increase ST numbers.

40 quid a month is a lot better than a 400 quid one off outlay.

It's up to us to fill the place and create the atmosphere!

Yes! I can easily manage 40 a month but 400 quid upfront most months im never managing that!

**.SeventyFive** · 22-02-2010 03:32 PM

What generally happens with new stadia/stands is as a result of a moder/larger facility being built people become less reluctant to take in a game.

Wasn't our average gate before we built the West stand not around 8/9,000 (and not filled to capacity) and then jumped to around 11/12,000 thereafter?

***Stevie Reid*** · 22-02-2010 03:36 PM

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I think the introduction of 10 monthly payments, as outlined at the AGM, will help increase ST numbers.

40 quid a month is a lot better than a 400 quid one off outlay.

It's up to us to fill the place and create the atmosphere!

Is this definitely being introduced, Mikey - would be delighted if it is?

***Mikey*** · 22-02-2010 04:03 PM

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Is this definitely being introduced, Mikey - would be delighted if it is?

Yes.

***greenlex*** · 22-02-2010 04:06 PM

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Yes.

I am liking this also. I see cash flow problems around renewal time.

***Keith_M*** · 22-02-2010 04:08 PM

I think the OP has a valid point, although the average attendance is a bit more than he mentioned. The point of the new stand, though, is to modernise the stadium, not just taking the short term view of what crowds we currently have.

It would be good if we could find some way to increase the attendances at ER as they do seem to have slipped back a bit the last two seasons. Hopefully a combination of the novelty of the new stand and a gradual improvement in on field performance will have some effect.

**Dashing Bob S** · 22-02-2010 04:13 PM

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What generally happens with new stadia/stands is as a result of a moder/larger facility being built people become less reluctant to take in a game.

Wasn't our average gate before we built the West stand not around 8/9,000 (and not filled to capacity) and then jumped to around 11/12,000 thereafter?

Exactly. We get a premuim every time we complete a piece of infrastructure that makes the ground seem like a modern stadium, not a mental asylum.

(I personally like grounds as mental asylums, but that how many young fans/families who have grown up watching football in the TV age percieve places like the old East.)

**Baw187** · 22-02-2010 04:15 PM

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I think the OP has a valid point, although the average attendance is a bit more than he mentioned. The point of the new stand, though, is to modernise the stadium, not just taking the short term view of what crowds we currently have.

It would be good if we could find some way to increase the attendances at ER as they do seem to have slipped back a bit the last two seasons. Hopefully a combination of the novelty of the new stand and a gradual improvement in on field performance will have some effect.

Probably got something to do with a recession as well.

johnbc70 · 22-02-2010 04:19 PM

Been mentioned in previous discussions but think with the increased capacity we should make tickets available to school children. With a capacity that will be over 20,000 we should perhaps looking at making 1000 tickets available for non cat A games. The seats would be empty otherwise and even if only 1 school kid goes on to become a futute season ticket holder then its one more than before.

**CMac1988** · 22-02-2010 04:19 PM

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I'll answer that for you. It's 12,848.

Stop listening to jambos!

Pish!! Didn't that bloke on Football Focus say it was around 15,000?

***Gerard*** · 22-02-2010 04:29 PM

The Yams alledge they have over 400,000 supporters; we are the 'wee team' and should be able to get on average 20,000 fans..........as the Hibernian brand develops.
There is only one team in Edinburgh that is investing in the futute

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***Stevie Reid*** · 22-02-2010 04:42 PM

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Yes.

Brilliant, cheers

**iwasthere1972** · 22-02-2010 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Jones28

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When we are averaging attendences of 10-11000 will our new stadium spend most of it's time only half full?

It will be full on the European nights.

:notworthy: Will provide for an even better atmosphere than AEK Athens. I can feel the hairs on the back of my neck standing up already.

**iwasthere1972** · 22-02-2010 05:09 PM

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Pish!! Didn't that bloke on Football Focus say it was around 15,000?

The Arsenal chappie. Knows nothing. Probably even had to check on Wikipedia to see where we played.

**Hainan Hibs** · 22-02-2010 05:19 PM

Also with League Cup semi finals ER will be considered first.

Maybe even some of the smaller International friendlies? ER would be cracking for that.

***London Hibs FC*** · 22-02-2010 05:56 PM

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Exactly. We get a premuim every time we complete a piece of infrastructure that makes the ground seem like a modern stadium, not a mental asylum.

As Lou Gehrig once said "If you build it, they will come". :notworthy:

**Barney McGrew** · 22-02-2010 06:25 PM

I'm fairly sure that there was a quote from a member of the board (maybe Fyfe Hyland) that said that at some of the OF games there were less Hibs fans than there were at some of the category B games.

That would have been down to the fact that there were only single seats or seats in the East left to buy, which put people off going. The extra capacity and better view from the new East will help to make more seats available for those games.

**1875 NO 1** · 22-02-2010 06:29 PM

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I'll answer that for you. It's 12,848.

Stop listening to jambos!

still leaves 7000 spare seats which is more that capacity of new stand.

***Mikey*** · 22-02-2010 06:32 PM

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I'm fairly sure that there was a quote from a member of the board (maybe Fyfe Hyland) that said that at some of the OF games there were less Hibs fans than there were at some of the category B games.

That would have been down to the fact that there were only single seats or seats in the East left to buy, which put people off going. The extra capacity and better view from the new East will help to make more seats available for those games.

I'm sure that info came out at the original East Stand listening group. It would have been Garry O'Hagan who said it.

***Mikey*** · 22-02-2010 06:33 PM

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still leaves 7000 spare seats which is more that capacity of new stand.

That's right. Plenty of space for the support to grow into.

***bingo70*** · 22-02-2010 06:34 PM

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What generally happens with new stadia/stands is as a result of a moder/larger facility being built people become less reluctant to take in a game.

Wasn't our average gate before we built the West stand not around 8/9,000 (and not filled to capacity) and then jumped to around 11/12,000 thereafter?

Thats my thinking too, we never needed the west stand really either as how often did we sell that stand out? Not very often IIRC.

As it stands there's no way the board could justify a drop in ticket prices as for the big games it gets close enough to selling out anyway so it wouldn't make sense to reduce prices, this may allow them to do it.

For the smaller games they could possibly cover up the end section of seats with advertising, flags etc.... this would keep the people congested in the middle which should help the atmosphere.

Think we need to remember as well under Mowbrey we really could have done with this stand so if the product on the park is entertaining people will come.

**1875 NO 1** · 22-02-2010 06:35 PM

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I think the introduction of 10 monthly payments, as outlined at the AGM, will help increase ST numbers.

40 quid a month is a lot better than a 400 quid one off outlay.

It's up to us to fill the place and create the atmosphere!

3rd in the league and in the scottish cup quater final and can't fill the seats we have already.

Celtic at home crowd was 14,221 based on the new capacity you wouldn't have to use the new east stand

Home to the Sucm back in Nov 16,762. We did sell out our end.