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    Any stattos out there

    I'd be interested if anyone has any stats on points average up to end January and from Feb to May the last few seasons

    Don't want to be the prophet of doom

    If I'm remembering correctly have we had a 2nd half of the season slide on a couple of occasions, the last few years?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 49years a Hibee View Post
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    I'd be interested if anyone has any stats on points average up to end January and from Feb to May the last few seasons

    Don't want to be the prophet of doom

    If I'm remembering correctly have we had a 2nd half of the season slide on a couple of occasions, the last few years?
    IIRC when Mixu first took over, halfway through the season, we won more League points that February than we had in any previous February in our history

    That's not answering your question, I know
    There's only one thing better than a Hibs calendar and that's two Hibs calendars

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    Season
    Up to January
    Jan Onwards
    Difference
    1994 1.18 0.88 0.30
    1995 1.57 1.31 0.26
    1996 1.38 0.83 0.54
    1997 0.96 1.50 -0.54
    1998 0.78 0.92 -0.14
    1999 2.36 2.73 -0.37
    2000 1.24 1.00 0.24
    2001 2.12 0.92 1.20
    2002 0.88 1.50 -0.62
    2003 1.36 1.31 0.05
    2004 1.18 1.13 0.06
    2005 1.87 1.20 0.67
    2006 1.71 1.07 0.64
    2007 1.50 0.83 0.67
    2008 1.32 1.50 -0.18
    2009 1.29 1.14 0.15
    2010 1.86

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    05/06
    First 19 games - 37 points
    Last 19 games - 19 points

    06/07
    First 19 games - 26 points
    Last 19 games - 23 points

    07/08
    First 19 games - 28 points
    Last 19 games - 24 points

    08/09
    First 19 games - 26 points
    Last 19 games - 21 points

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    stats altered by league split, in that you play 5 of the top 6 or 5 of the bottom 6

    No surprise to find out Hibs fall away in second half

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    Bearing these stats in mind, at the current rate of progress we should finish with around 56 points

    Not good enough for 3rd in any of the last 5 seasons

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    I worked this out a number of months ago.

    OCTOBER-1.86
    SEPTEMBER-1.83
    AUGUST-1.56
    NOVEMBER-1.38
    JANUARY-1.35
    APRIL-1.27
    MARCH-1.26
    DECEMBER-1.25
    FEBRUARY-1.03
    MAY-1.03
    JULY-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by FalkirkHibee View Post
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    I worked this out a number of months ago.

    OCTOBER-1.86
    SEPTEMBER-1.83
    AUGUST-1.56
    NOVEMBER-1.38
    JANUARY-1.35
    APRIL-1.27
    MARCH-1.26
    DECEMBER-1.25
    FEBRUARY-1.03
    MAY-1.03
    JULY-1
    Interesting, and backs up the "Typical Hibs Theory". But what period is this worked out over, the SPL years?

    Still confident for third here though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawr.rar View Post
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    05/06
    First 19 games - 37 points
    Last 19 games - 19 points

    06/07
    First 19 games - 26 points
    Last 19 games - 23 points

    07/08
    First 19 games - 28 points
    Last 19 games - 24 points

    08/09
    First 19 games - 26 points
    Last 19 games - 21 points
    Kind of makes this annual slump theory seem a bit of a myth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankDiscussion View Post
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    Interesting, and backs up the "Typical Hibs Theory". But what period is this worked out over, the SPL years?

    Still confident for third here though.
    Sorry, forgot to include that info.

    Those stats go all the way back to the 2000/01 season, which was the first year that the SPL was a 12 team league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Kind of makes this annual slump theory seem a bit of a myth.

    I might have missed your irony here... those 1st half/2nd half stats all show a worse 2nd half, so they do back up the slump theory.

    However, Falkirk Hibee's stats are the intersting ones. For the last ten years, as the months go by, we get less points, on average, each month.

    It would be VERY interesting to see how that compares with other teams in the league. Just because we pick up less points in April than October doesn't mean other individual teams don't consistently do the same, month on month.

    I couldn't even begin to put those stats together, but I know a man who'll have them for der Hun - if anyone is interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankDiscussion View Post
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    I might have missed your irony here... those 1st half/2nd half stats all show a worse 2nd half, so they do back up the slump theory.
    Not really, apart from 05/06 season, that was a slump. We have taken 3, 4 and 5 points less in consecutive seasons, hardly what i'd call a slump?

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    Hibs point averages per month

    Jul to may


    1975-76 0.00 2.00 1.25 1.00 1.60 0.80 1.50 1.33 1.00 1.00 0.00 Position = 3
    1976-77 0.00 0.00 0.75 1.20 0.25 1.50 1.25 1.00 1.17 0.71 0.00 Position = 6
    1977-78 0.00 1.67 0.67 0.40 0.25 1.75 1.50 0.00 1.83 0.75 0.00 Position = 4
    1978-79 0.00 1.00 1.75 0.75 0.25 0.67 1.00 1.50 1.50 0.86 1.00 Position = 5
    1979-80 0.00 0.67 0.00 0.50 0.25 1.33 0.50 1.00 0.50 0.50 0.00 Position = 10 Relegated
    1980-81 0.00 1.33 1.67 1.60 1.00 1.50 1.40 1.67 1.33 1.60 0.00 Position = 1 Promoted
    1981-82 0.00 2.00 0.50 1.20 0.50 1.00 1.67 1.00 1.00 1.20 0.67 Position = 6
    1982-83 0.00 0.00 0.75 0.60 0.25 1.25 0.80 1.67 0.67 1.00 0.33 Position = 7
    1983-84 0.00 0.00 1.00 1.20 1.25 0.40 1.00 0.50 0.83 1.00 1.00 Position = 7
    1984-85 0.00 1.00 0.40 0.75 0.75 0.00 1.00 0.67 0.67 1.00 2.00 Position = 8
    1985-86 0.00 0.00 0.67 1.60 1.50 0.50 0.25 0.50 1.00 0.67 0.00 Position = 8
    1986-87 0.00 0.60 0.50 0.83 0.50 0.40 1.00 1.67 1.00 0.50 1.00 Position = 9
    1987-88 0.00 0.80 1.25 1.00 0.67 0.80 0.75 2.00 0.75 0.75 2.00 Position = 6
    1988-89 0.00 1.33 1.50 1.00 0.80 1.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.80 0.50 Position = 5
    1989-90 0.00 0.67 1.50 0.50 1.00 1.00 0.60 1.00 1.50 0.75 1.00 Position = 7
    1990-91 0.00 0.00 0.80 1.25 0.75 0.20 0.25 1.00 0.60 1.00 1.00 Position = 9
    1991-92 0.00 1.60 1.25 1.25 1.13 1.20 0.75 1.00 0.50 1.00 2.00 Position = 5
    1992-93 0.00 0.83 1.50 0.60 0.50 1.00 0.75 1.25 0.20 1.25 0.67 Position = 7
    1993-94 0.00 1.00 1.25 1.40 0.71 1.50 1.50 0.67 1.20 0.60 1.00 Position = 5
    1994-95 0.00 2.33 0.67 2.20 1.00 1.25 1.75 0.33 1.67 1.00 2.33 Position = 3
    1995-96 0.00 1.00 2.33 1.83 1.20 0.75 1.00 1.00 0.50 0.50 3.00 Position = 5
    1996-97 0.00 1.33 1.50 1.33 1.00 0.83 0.00 0.67 1.75 1.67 0.50 Position = 9
    1997-98 0.00 1.75 1.67 0.00 0.20 0.25 1.00 0.25 1.67 1.25 0.50 Position = 10 Relegated
    1998-99 0.00 1.75 1.25 2.60 2.50 3.00 3.00 3.00 1.50 3.00 3.00 Position = 1 Promoted
    1999-00 1.00 1.25 0.00 2.00 1.50 1.25 1.00 0.33 1.50 2.00 0.00 Position = 6
    2000-01 1.00 3.00 1.75 3.00 1.20 2.17 2.00 2.00 0.33 1.25 0.33 Position = 3
    2001-02 1.00 1.00 2.25 1.00 0.33 0.57 0.25 0.67 2.25 1.00 3.00 Position = 10
    2002-03 0.00 0.60 1.50 3.00 1.40 1.33 0.50 0.00 1.33 1.33 2.25 Position = 7
    2003-04 0.00 1.75 0.33 2.00 0.50 0.75 1.75 0.50 0.67 1.60 1.50 Position = 8
    2004-05 0.00 1.00 2.33 1.40 2.25 2.25 2.33 1.33 0.75 2.00 0.33 Position = 3
    2005-06 1.00 2.25 2.00 2.40 2.00 0.75 1.00 1.33 1.00 1.40 0.00 Position = 4
    2006-07 1.00 1.00 1.50 1.33 2.00 1.50 1.75 0.50 1.50 0.60 1.00 Position = 6
    2007-08 0.00 2.00 2.50 1.00 1.67 0.33 0.00 2.60 1.20 1.33 0.33 Position = 6
    2008-09 0.00 1.00 2.00 1.33 1.00 1.50 1.25 0.67 2.33 0.67 1.00 Position = 6
    2009-10 0.00 2.00 2.00 2.00 1.67 1.75 Position = 3
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    It would be VERY interesting to see how that compares with other teams in the league. ....
    Since SPL Began

    1998-99 0.00 1.75 0.50 0.50 0.75 2.00 0.00 2.00 0.50 0.75 0.75 Aberdeen Position = 8
    1998-99 0.00 1.75 0.75 1.75 2.25 1.75 2.00 3.00 2.00 2.25 2.25 Celtic Position = 2
    1998-99 0.00 0.25 1.75 1.75 1.33 0.80 0.33 1.00 1.50 1.75 2.25 Dundee Position = 5
    1998-99 0.00 0.25 1.50 1.50 1.00 0.40 2.00 1.00 3.00 0.80 0.25 Dundee United Position = 9
    1998-99 0.00 1.25 0.75 0.75 0.75 0.60 1.00 0.50 2.33 0.25 0.00 Dunfermline Athletic Position = 10 Relegated
    1998-99 0.00 1.75 1.25 0.25 2.00 0.67 0.50 0.00 0.00 1.60 2.50 Heart Of Midlothian Position = 6
    1998-99 0.00 1.75 2.00 2.00 1.25 2.25 2.00 0.00 1.67 1.75 0.75 Kilmarnock Position = 4
    1998-99 0.00 1.75 0.50 1.00 1.25 1.60 1.50 0.33 0.50 0.75 1.75 Motherwell Position = 7
    1998-99 0.00 2.25 1.50 2.25 2.00 2.60 2.33 3.00 1.50 1.75 2.00 Rangers Position = 1 CHAMPIONS
    1998-99 0.00 1.00 1.75 1.50 2.00 1.17 1.50 3.00 0.00 2.50 1.25 St Johnstone Position = 3

    1999-00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.33 2.00 0.50 3.00 0.33 0.67 1.50 Aberdeen Position = 10 Falkirk not promoted
    1999-00 0.00 2.40 3.00 2.25 1.00 2.50 1.00 1.50 1.20 1.50 2.50 Celtic Position = 2
    1999-00 0.00 1.50 1.00 0.75 2.00 0.50 0.50 0.75 1.00 1.33 2.00 Dundee Position = 7
    1999-00 3.00 1.25 2.00 1.50 2.33 0.75 1.00 0.00 0.67 0.86 0.00 Dundee United Position = 8
    1999-00 3.00 1.00 3.00 0.67 0.50 0.75 3.00 2.00 2.17 1.67 1.33 Heart Of Midlothian Position = 3
    1999-00 1.00 1.25 0.00 2.00 1.50 1.25 1.00 0.33 1.50 2.00 0.00 Hibernian Position = 6
    1999-00 0.00 1.00 1.00 0.75 0.67 0.33 1.00 1.33 1.50 1.50 1.00 Kilmarnock Position = 9
    1999-00 1.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 2.50 0.50 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 3.00 Motherwell Position = 4
    1999-00 3.00 3.00 3.00 2.33 2.00 2.50 3.00 2.00 2.50 2.67 2.25 Rangers Position = 1 CHAMPIONS
    1999-00 0.00 1.75 1.33 0.25 1.00 2.00 1.00 1.75 1.00 1.00 1.25 St Johnstone Position = 5

    2000-01 1.00 1.25 1.33 0.50 1.00 0.20 1.50 3.00 1.50 1.80 1.00 Aberdeen Position = 7
    2000-01 3.00 3.00 3.00 2.20 2.00 3.00 3.00 2.50 3.00 3.00 1.00 Celtic Position = 1 CHAMPIONS
    2000-01 3.00 1.00 1.20 1.00 1.50 1.60 0.00 0.00 2.00 0.75 2.00 Dundee Position = 6
    2000-01 0.00 0.25 0.25 0.00 0.60 0.40 3.00 0.67 2.33 1.00 3.00 Dundee United Position = 11
    2000-01 1.00 1.40 0.25 1.33 1.40 1.80 1.00 1.50 1.33 0.00 0.33 Dunfermline Athletic Position = 9
    2000-01 1.00 0.75 1.50 1.50 1.80 1.33 1.50 1.50 1.75 0.67 1.33 Heart Of Midlothian Position = 5
    2000-01 1.00 3.00 1.75 3.00 1.20 2.17 2.00 2.00 0.33 1.25 0.33 Hibernian Position = 3
    2000-01 3.00 0.80 2.50 3.00 1.40 1.20 0.50 1.33 0.67 1.25 1.00 Kilmarnock Position = 4
    2000-01 0.00 0.40 1.00 1.75 2.00 1.20 0.50 1.50 0.33 1.00 1.33 Motherwell Position = 8
    2000-01 3.00 2.25 2.33 0.75 2.50 2.67 3.00 2.00 1.50 1.75 3.00 Rangers Position = 2
    2000-01 0.00 1.50 1.25 1.50 1.40 0.83 1.00 0.50 0.25 1.50 0.67 St Johnstone Position = 10
    2000-01 0.00 0.75 0.80 1.00 0.20 0.20 0.00 0.75 1.33 2.00 1.67 St Mirren Position = 12 Relegated
    Last edited by LHWM; 21-02-2010 at 12:37 PM.

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    2001-02 0.00 1.00 2.25 2.33 1.50 1.40 0.80 2.33 1.75 1.00 0.00 Aberdeen Position = 4
    2001-02 3.00 2.50 3.00 3.00 3.00 2.50 3.00 2.33 2.50 2.50 3.00 Celtic Position = 1 CHAMPIONS
    2001-02 1.00 1.50 1.00 2.00 0.50 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.20 1.75 0.00 Dundee Position = 9
    2001-02 1.00 1.75 0.75 1.33 1.25 0.33 2.25 0.33 0.75 2.50 1.00 Dundee United Position = 8
    2001-02 3.00 0.75 0.00 2.00 1.00 1.50 2.00 0.75 2.25 0.25 1.00 Dunfermline Athletic Position = 6
    2001-02 0.00 2.25 0.25 1.00 1.00 1.83 1.50 0.67 1.50 1.50 0.00 Heart Of Midlothian Position = 5
    2001-02 1.00 1.00 2.25 1.00 0.33 0.57 0.25 0.67 2.25 1.00 3.00 Hibernian Position = 10
    2001-02 1.00 1.75 1.50 0.00 1.00 2.17 0.50 1.67 1.00 1.50 1.00 Kilmarnock Position = 7
    2001-02 3.00 0.75 2.50 1.33 3.00 1.33 1.50 1.33 0.40 1.50 3.00 Livingston Position = 3
    2001-02 0.00 0.75 1.50 0.33 1.50 0.40 1.80 1.00 0.75 1.00 3.00 Motherwell Position = 11
    2001-02 3.00 2.00 1.75 3.00 2.00 2.14 2.50 3.00 2.50 1.75 1.00 Rangers Position = 2
    2001-02 0.00 0.25 0.50 0.00 1.50 0.67 0.00 1.00 0.75 0.50 0.00 St Johnstone Position = 12 Relegated

    2002-03 0.00 1.00 1.40 1.33 0.60 0.83 0.50 1.00 1.33 3.00 2.25 Aberdeen Position = 8
    2002-03 0.00 3.00 2.40 2.33 3.00 2.29 2.00 3.00 3.00 1.75 3.00 Celtic Position = 2
    2002-03 0.00 1.00 1.25 2.33 0.80 0.67 1.50 2.00 1.50 1.33 0.50 Dundee Position = 6
    2002-03 0.00 0.60 0.75 0.33 1.40 0.33 0.50 1.33 1.33 0.00 1.75 Dundee United Position = 11
    2002-03 0.00 1.50 1.80 1.33 1.60 1.20 1.50 0.75 0.67 1.00 0.50 Dunfermline Athletic Position = 5
    2002-03 0.00 1.80 1.75 0.33 1.75 1.71 2.00 2.00 2.00 2.50 0.75 Heart Of Midlothian Position = 3
    2002-03 0.00 0.60 1.50 3.00 1.40 1.33 0.50 0.00 1.33 1.33 2.25 Hibernian Position = 7
    2002-03 0.00 1.60 1.00 0.33 1.20 2.17 2.00 2.00 1.67 2.00 1.00 Kilmarnock Position = 4
    2002-03 0.00 1.00 0.00 2.33 1.00 1.17 1.50 0.00 1.25 0.33 0.75 Livingston Position = 9
    2002-03 0.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.33 0.50 2.00 0.00 0.00 0.80 Motherwell Position = 12 Falkirk not promoted
    2002-03 0.00 0.75 1.00 0.33 1.80 0.83 0.50 1.00 0.33 1.33 0.75 Partick Thistle Position = 10
    2002-03 0.00 2.50 3.00 2.33 2.50 2.57 3.00 3.00 2.00 2.00 2.50 Rangers Position = 1

    2003-04 0.00 0.25 1.00 1.00 0.25 2.00 1.00 1.40 0.50 1.50 0.00 Aberdeen Position = 11
    2003-04 0.00 2.50 3.00 3.00 3.00 3.00 3.00 3.00 2.50 1.25 1.75 Celtic Position = 1
    2003-04 0.00 1.75 1.00 1.67 0.50 0.25 1.75 0.75 0.25 2.00 2.25 Dundee Position = 7
    2003-04 0.00 0.00 1.67 1.33 1.00 1.75 1.50 1.00 2.50 0.75 1.50 Dundee United Position = 5
    2003-04 0.00 1.75 1.33 0.50 1.60 2.25 1.25 1.00 1.33 1.60 0.75 Dunfermline Athletic Position = 4
    2003-04 0.00 2.25 1.33 1.33 2.25 1.00 2.00 2.20 1.67 0.80 3.00 Heart Of Midlothian Position = 3
    2003-04 0.00 1.75 0.33 2.00 0.50 0.75 1.75 0.50 0.67 1.60 1.50 Hibernian Position = 8
    2003-04 0.00 1.00 1.33 1.00 1.50 0.75 0.25 1.50 1.33 0.80 1.75 Kilmarnock Position = 10
    2003-04 0.00 1.00 1.33 1.67 1.25 1.00 1.33 0.60 1.33 1.20 1.00 Livingston Position = 9
    2003-04 0.00 1.00 1.33 2.00 1.60 0.25 1.00 2.40 0.67 1.40 0.25 Motherwell Position = 6
    2003-04 0.00 0.50 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.75 0.00 0.60 0.75 0.75 2.00 Partick Thistle Position = 12
    2003-04 0.00 3.00 3.00 0.67 3.00 2.25 2.00 2.00 1.75 2.00 1.50 Rangers Position = 2

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    2004-05 0.00 2.00 1.33 2.00 2.25 1.00 0.25 1.50 2.50 1.50 1.50 Aberdeen Position = 4
    2004-05 0.00 3.00 2.33 2.40 1.75 3.00 3.00 0.00 3.00 1.80 2.00 Celtic Position = 2
    2004-05 0.00 1.00 0.33 0.80 1.00 0.75 1.25 1.50 0.25 1.20 0.67 Dundee Position = 12 Relegated
    2004-05 0.00 1.25 0.33 0.40 1.00 0.75 0.75 2.00 0.00 2.00 1.33 Dundee United Position = 9
    2004-05 0.00 0.25 1.33 1.40 1.00 0.25 1.00 1.50 0.50 0.40 2.00 Dunfermline Athletic Position = 11
    2004-05 0.00 1.75 1.33 1.60 1.00 1.33 2.20 1.50 1.00 1.00 0.00 Heart Of Midlothian Position = 5
    2004-05 0.00 1.00 2.33 1.40 2.25 2.25 2.33 1.33 0.75 2.00 0.33 Hibernian Position = 3
    2004-05 0.00 0.75 0.00 1.60 0.50 1.50 1.50 1.00 1.75 1.67 0.33 Inverness Caledonian Thistle Position = 8
    2004-05 0.00 1.50 2.00 1.40 0.25 0.75 1.50 1.00 1.00 1.40 2.33 Kilmarnock Position = 7
    2004-05 0.00 1.00 0.33 0.80 0.75 1.33 0.00 0.00 1.75 1.60 1.33 Livingston Position = 10
    2004-05 0.00 1.50 2.33 0.20 2.25 1.50 0.33 1.33 1.67 0.83 1.33 Motherwell Position = 6
    2004-05 0.00 1.75 2.33 2.60 3.00 2.50 2.50 3.00 2.33 1.50 3.00 Rangers Position = 1

    2005-06 1.00 1.50 1.33 1.00 1.67 0.60 1.67 3.00 1.00 2.20 0.50 Aberdeen Position = 6
    2005-06 1.00 2.25 3.00 2.60 2.00 2.50 2.50 3.00 3.00 1.60 2.00 Celtic Position = 1
    2005-06 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 0.67 1.20 1.67 0.50 1.33 0.00 0.50 Dundee United Position = 9
    2005-06 1.00 0.25 1.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 0.33 1.25 1.00 1.60 1.50 Dunfermline Athletic Position = 11
    2005-06 0.00 0.75 0.67 1.60 1.00 0.20 1.00 0.33 0.00 1.80 1.50 Falkirk Position = 10
    2005-06 3.00 3.00 3.00 1.60 1.67 1.75 1.50 1.33 2.00 1.80 1.50 Heart Of Midlothian Position = 2
    2005-06 1.00 2.25 2.00 2.40 2.00 0.75 1.00 1.33 1.00 1.40 0.00 Hibernian Position = 4
    2005-06 3.00 1.25 0.00 1.20 1.67 1.80 2.00 1.67 1.00 1.80 3.00 Inverness Caledonian Thistle Position = 7
    2005-06 0.00 2.50 1.33 0.80 1.67 2.25 1.25 2.33 1.75 0.20 1.50 Kilmarnock Position = 5
    2005-06 0.00 0.25 0.33 0.60 1.00 0.80 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.20 0.00 Livingston Position = 12 Relegated
    2005-06 1.00 0.75 2.00 1.40 1.00 1.80 0.33 1.00 2.00 0.80 2.00 Motherwell Position = 8
    2005-06 3.00 1.50 1.33 1.80 0.33 2.20 3.00 1.00 2.50 2.20 3.00 Rangers Position = 3

    2006-07 1.00 2.00 1.00 1.50 2.50 1.50 1.67 1.50 2.40 1.33 1.33 Aberdeen Position = 3
    2006-07 3.00 1.75 3.00 3.00 2.50 2.00 3.00 3.00 1.00 2.00 1.00 Celtic Position = 1
    2006-07 0.00 1.50 0.67 0.00 2.25 1.67 0.25 2.00 1.25 1.33 0.33 Dundee United Position = 9
    2006-07 0.00 0.50 1.50 0.33 0.75 0.33 0.25 0.50 1.00 3.00 1.00 Dunfermline Athletic Position = 12 Relegated
    2006-07 3.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.50 1.50 0.00 1.50 0.67 3.00 Falkirk Position = 7
    2006-07 3.00 1.75 2.00 1.25 0.50 1.83 1.75 2.00 1.00 2.25 1.33 Heart Of Midlothian Position = 4
    2006-07 1.00 1.00 1.50 1.33 2.00 1.50 1.75 0.50 1.50 0.60 1.00 Hibernian Position = 6
    2006-07 0.00 0.75 2.00 2.33 0.50 0.67 1.75 0.00 1.00 1.67 2.00 Inverness Caledonian Thistle Position = 8
    2006-07 0.00 2.00 1.00 2.00 1.00 1.33 1.50 0.50 2.00 0.75 3.00 Kilmarnock Position = 5
    2006-07 0.00 0.75 1.00 1.33 1.00 1.67 0.00 2.33 1.00 0.25 0.33 Motherwell Position = 10
    2006-07 3.00 1.50 1.00 1.75 2.25 1.33 2.50 3.00 2.50 2.33 1.00 Rangers Position = 2
    2006-07 3.00 1.00 1.50 0.67 0.25 1.17 0.00 0.67 0.33 1.00 2.00 St Mirren Position = 11

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    2007-08 0.00 0.50 1.50 2.33 1.00 1.83 1.00 0.25 1.75 2.00 2.00 Aberdeen Position = 4
    2007-08 0.00 2.50 2.25 2.00 3.00 1.71 3.00 3.00 1.75 2.40 3.00 Celtic Position = 1
    2007-08 0.00 1.75 1.50 3.00 1.33 0.50 2.25 1.00 1.75 1.00 0.00 Dundee United Position = 5
    2007-08 0.00 0.75 1.00 0.67 1.50 2.29 1.00 1.00 1.50 0.33 2.00 Falkirk Position = 7
    2007-08 0.00 0.25 0.75 0.00 0.33 1.00 1.00 0.60 0.00 0.75 1.33 Gretna Position = 12 Last Season in League
    2007-08 0.00 0.50 2.25 1.00 1.67 0.17 1.75 1.50 2.00 2.33 0.00 Heart of Midlothian Position = 8
    2007-08 0.00 2.00 2.50 1.00 1.67 0.33 0.00 2.60 1.20 1.33 0.33 Hibernian Position = 6
    2007-08 0.00 0.00 1.50 1.33 1.00 2.50 1.00 0.40 0.00 2.00 1.33 Inverness Caledonian Thistle Position = 9
    2007-08 0.00 1.75 1.00 1.67 0.00 0.83 0.25 0.75 1.75 0.67 2.00 Kilmarnock Position = 11
    2007-08 0.00 2.25 1.00 1.00 2.33 2.00 0.00 2.00 1.00 1.33 1.40 Motherwell Position = 3
    2007-08 0.00 3.00 1.75 1.00 3.00 2.60 3.00 3.00 3.00 0.33 1.83 Rangers Position = 2
    2007-08 0.00 1.50 0.25 2.00 0.50 0.83 2.00 0.50 1.25 1.00 1.25 St Mirren Position = 10

    2008-09 0.00 1.75 0.00 1.33 1.67 3.00 1.40 0.67 1.67 1.33 1.00 Aberdeen Position = 4
    2008-09 0.00 1.75 3.00 3.00 3.00 1.75 1.33 1.50 2.00 2.50 1.60 Celtic Position = 2
    2008-09 0.00 0.50 2.00 3.00 1.71 2.00 1.00 0.67 1.33 1.67 0.80 Dundee United Position = 5
    2008-09 0.00 0.00 2.33 1.00 1.17 0.00 1.25 0.67 1.50 0.25 2.00 Falkirk Position = 10
    2008-09 0.00 1.50 1.00 0.00 0.83 0.75 3.00 1.00 0.33 0.33 1.40 Hamilton Academical Position = 9
    2008-09 0.00 2.25 1.00 0.67 2.50 0.67 1.40 2.33 1.33 1.67 1.00 Heart of Midlothian Position = 3
    2008-09 0.00 1.00 2.00 1.33 1.00 1.50 1.25 0.67 2.33 0.67 1.00 Hibernian Position = 6
    2008-09 0.00 1.75 1.00 0.00 1.17 0.00 0.00 1.25 2.00 1.33 1.00 Inverness Caledonian Thistle Position = 12 Relegated
    2008-09 0.00 2.50 0.00 2.00 0.50 2.00 0.40 0.67 0.33 1.33 2.00 Kilmarnock Position = 8
    2008-09 0.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 0.67 1.00 1.80 2.33 1.33 0.33 1.40 Motherwell Position = 7
    2008-09 0.00 2.50 3.00 1.50 2.00 1.75 2.50 2.33 0.50 3.00 2.60 Rangers Position = 1
    2008-09 0.00 0.25 1.33 2.00 0.17 3.00 0.50 0.67 1.00 1.00 0.60 St Mirren Position = 11

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    Don't know what all those figures mean..I have enough problems with my bank accout never mind statistics however:

    I was thinking this morning about starting a thread as I have a gut feeling that february is not a kind month to us, when talking to supporters of other clubs and being asked about Hibs chances for the coming season I always reply "it all depends on how we do in February"

    Thoughts anyone?
    "Football should always be played beautifully, you should play in an attacking way, it must be a spectacle". Johan Cruyff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LHWM View Post
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    Season points totals per month
    Up to January Jan Onwards
    Difference
    1994 1.18 0.88
    1995 1.57 1.31
    1996 1.38 0.83
    1997 0.96 1.50
    1998 0.78 0.92
    1999 2.36 2.73
    2000 1.24 1.00
    2001 2.12 0.92
    2002 0.88 1.50
    2003 1.36 1.31
    2004 1.18 1.13
    2005 1.87 1.20
    2006 1.71 1.07
    2007 1.50 0.83
    2008 1.32 1.50
    2009 1.29 1.14
    2010 1.86
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    I worked this out a number of months ago.
    AUGUST-1.56
    SEPTEMBER-1.83
    OCTOBER-1.86
    NOVEMBER-1.38
    DECEMBER-1.25
    JANUARY-1.35
    FEBRUARY-1.03
    MARCH-1.26
    APRIL-1.27
    MAY-1.03
    Depressing huh? Why do so many of our seasons go downhill?
    Last edited by RIP; 22-03-2010 at 12:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 49years a Hibee View Post
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    Depressing huh? Why do so many of our seasons go downhill?
    The common factors...
    - The pitch?
    - The weather?
    - The supporters

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    At the start of the season everyone's finding their feet and jockying for position.

    Around October the league tends to throw up few surprises with most teams sticking to form.

    Around February, however, comes crunch time. Teams start realising what they have to play for - the rubbish teams better start winning or they're getting relegated, the underachieving teams better start playing or there'll be no European or top-6 place to save the season. Players are playing for new contracts, transfers or a place in the big cup game next week. New managers come in and new managers - no matter how crap they turn out to be - always have an impact at the beginning.

    And of course the pitches cut up, suspensions kick in etc. Teams who've had a good start feel the pressure a wee bit more. Teams with nothing to lose can kick on.

    The upshot is this the time of year where you have to do that bit extra to win a football match. Not so much extra in terms of quality - more in terms of pure physical factors (running faster, tackling harder, jumping higher, shooting quicker) etc etc. Every team is 'up for it' at this time of year so the chances of a team sneaking in through the back door become less and less. If recent history has taught us one thing - Hibs don't win many big games when a) its at the crunch time of the season b) there's something big at stake and c) there's some level of expectation.

    A few of the above posts have skirted round the reasons why we're useless at this time of year. IMO it revolves around us starting the season almost too well, building pressure and expectation and complacency, and not having the strength or gumption or ruthlessness to grind out the results when we need them.

    A lack of flexibility in the way we play too. IMO we should be kicking teams off the park at this time of the season. The season took a huge dent at Ibrox in Feb. We played them off the park in the first-half. Hughes should have wrong-footed them in the second-half by changing the tactics and being more physical and direct. Apply the same plan to our season and we might be on to something. The playing nice football between Aug-Jan has worked for a lot of our managers but it hasn't worked in the second half. The only decent run we've had in Spring was under Mixu and there was no football there. He just got us playing a bit harder and a bit more direct.

    A team that is short on height, pace, strength, and fitness (as we generally are - only Bamba and maybe Murray of all our regulars could be said to be real athletes) isn't going to win many games at this time of year.

    Its a shame that all the thoughtful brainbox well-paid managers we've had down the years couldn't grasp this. The only one who achieved any consistency was Duffy - he just had us crap all year round. We should use the January transfer window to sign the biggest, hardest most brutal bunch of physical huddies the we can - guys like Kevin Kyle, Kenny Deuchar and that Mensing from Hamilton. Make every game a war of attrition then wheel on the array of luxury lightweights we have in the last 10 minutes to win us the game.
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    Rightwinger - you have it in one

    Anyone recall the 72/73 season. The early part of the winter we had great European results, beat the Hearts 7-0 and were top o' the league by early January

    Then came the sticky pitches and the wee legs and silky fitba of Edwards, Gordon, Cropley and Duncan made way for the hoofball merchants. The other teams hacked us off the park, Brownlie's leg got broke, Edwards was kicked into another red card and our form slumped.

    So should it be......?

    Aug - Nov - Light, fast and silky
    Dec - Mar - Size, fitness and muscle
    April - May - Bit of both

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