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    deeks up front?

    gow can play as a winger, yogi obviously knows galbraith isnt ready for regular first team football, could see deek pushed up top with gow on the wing?

    plenty of options going forward anyway looking good


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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee92 View Post
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    gow can play as a winger, yogi obviously knows galbraith isnt ready for regular first team football, could see deek pushed up top with gow on the wing?

    plenty of options going forward anyway looking good
    I think Gow will be played in the hole behind Stokes and Nish. Can't see us dropping Nish giving his contribution to the way we play (being a big menace and holding the ball up) so would expect him to come in for Rankin.

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    .................Smith/Brown......................
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    .................Hogg........Bamba................ ..
    Wotherspoon.............................Murray..
    .................................................. ........
    ................Mcbride......Miller............... ...
    .................................................. ......
    .......Zemmama....................................
    ................................................Go w
    .............Riordan........Stokes................ .

    Space for Spoony to make his bombs up the right. What a team!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baw187 View Post
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    I think Gow will be played in the hole behind Stokes and Nish. Can't see us dropping Nish giving his contribution to the way we play (being a big menace and holding the ball up) so would expect him to come in for Rankin.
    I would agree that he's a big menace and is a constant pain in the erse for defenders and there's definately a place in the squad for him, however i don't think he holds the ball up at all, one of the reasons Yogi has him playing a bit deeper now.

    I would play Gow ahead of Nish and have Gow and Riordan rotating positions throughout the game, that'd be a nightmare for defenders, having Nish on the bench coming on if it's not working is a terrific asset to have as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_hfc View Post
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    .................Smith/Brown......................
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    .................Hogg........Bamba................ ..
    Wotherspoon.............................Murray..
    .................................................. ........
    ................Mcbride......Miller............... ...
    .................................................. ......
    .......Zemmama....................................
    ................................................Go w
    .............Riordan........Stokes................ .

    Space for Spoony to make his bombs up the right. What a team!!
    Team plays better without him, he does too much for himself

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    Everyone keeps going on about how Deeks should be playing up front. This is just my opinion and don't want shot down in flames about it but did anyone see his performance up there for the last 20 mins on Saturday. He did nothing I thought a pigeon was going to land on his head he was so static at times.

    Apart from his free kick against Hamilton he has been below par for weeks now and I think it's about time he got a seat on the bench to gather his thoughts. How he hasn't been dropped is beyond me, everything we keep hearing and reading about how he lives his life and how yogi expects his players to live their lives is worlds apart but I think Yogi is scared to drop him.

    Gow will be a good signing for us and 3rd spot should be ours easily, would have still liked to have seen a right back come in tho

    GGTTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanduff View Post
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    Team plays better without him, he does too much for himself

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_hfc View Post
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    .................Smith/Brown......................
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    Wotherspoon.............................Murray..
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    ................Mcbride......Miller............... ...
    .................................................. ......
    .......Zemmama....................................
    ................................................Go w
    .............Riordan........Stokes................ .

    Space for Spoony to make his bombs up the right. What a team!!
    That is some team, the best we have had in a long time. Can't wait for the game against the sheep. GGTTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_hfc View Post
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    Wotherspoon.............................Murray..
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    ................Mcbride......Miller............... ...
    .................................................. ......
    .......Zemmama....................................
    ................................................Go w
    .............Riordan........Stokes................ .

    Space for Spoony to make his bombs up the right. What a team!!
    I agree about Zouma, too greedy and not really a team player at times.

    Put Thicot in at RB and push Wotherspoon up to right mid.

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    I think Gow will be played in the hole behind Stokes and Nish. Can't see us dropping Nish giving his contribution to the way we play (being a big menace and holding the ball up) so would expect him to come in for Rankin.
    Who else would go though from the usual line up? Zemmama? If we are playing a player in the hole and having Nish and Stokes someone needs to drop right which doesn't suit Nish or Stokes. It would mean Riordan having to play a real narrow position on the left which isn't his game.


    Smith

    Wotherspoon Hogg Bamba Murray

    McBride

    Miller Gow Riordan

    Nish Stokes

    I think I'd prefer to either drop Nish or Riordan. Maybe:

    Smith

    Wotherspoon Hogg Bamba Murray

    Miller McBride

    Zemmama Gow Riordan

    Stokes

    Or swapping Gow into Riordan's position and Nish in the hole if we need the big guy.

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    Can't believe you're still wanting Riordan in the team. Geezzzz someone's posted that Zemmama isn't a team player and fails to mention our childish, huffy, moaning number 10. I'd have Saturday's team with Gow replacing Riordan.

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    Smith
    McCann Hogg Bamba Murray
    Wotherspoon Miller McBride Gow
    Stokes Riordan/Nish

    That team could do a job. Hughes has said we don't need a RB just now with spoony doing well and McCann getting there, he goes on to say McCann is a quality prospect.

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    You know what? I'm gonna trust the Manager on this one. So far

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    Quote Originally Posted by H113EE5 View Post
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    Can't believe you're still wanting Riordan in the team. Geezzzz someone's posted that Zemmama isn't a team player and fails to mention our childish, huffy, moaning number 10. I'd have Saturday's team with Gow replacing Riordan.

    Riordan can be a match winner, whereas Zouma can lose the ball all too often in midfield trying do too much and cost us.

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    I would still have deek in the team. I would defo give him a shot up top with stokes. The reason he hasnt been in games that much is because we seem to only play up the right hand side. So many times recently we have failed to switch the play quickly, we had plenty of opportunities to do this on Saturday, mostly through Rankin, but his vision is rank and the ball hardly ever switches at the right time.

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    Both are luxuries and they leave the 9 others to ensure that we're still in the game to allow them to be matchwinners.

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    Hilarious thread at times, Riordan and Zemmama not good enough for Hibs.

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    vs. Montrose, I'd like to see the following:

    Brown

    Thicot Hogg Bamba Murray

    Wotherspoon McBride Miller

    Gow

    Stokes Riordan

    Nish has missed a few too many chances of late and Zouma is just coming back from a period of injury (his creative ability is undoubted, but his recovery must be given time).
    Madness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push.

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    Riordan can be a match winner, whereas Zouma can lose the ball all too often in midfield trying do too much and cost us.
    Zemmama is one of the most gifted players at Hibs. yes he CAN be greedy, but he is one of the few can can play that killer ball, skin a player,always lookslively and a constant hassle for defenders. They know there's no room for error against Zemmama. He definetly would have a place in my XI. He gives us something as bit different.

    Everybody on here was kissing his erse on this due to his good form at the start of the season. A few weeks of poorer form and injury, and he's not good enough to merit a game?

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    Zemmama is one of the most gifted players at Hibs. yes he CAN be greedy, but he is one of the few can can play that killer ball, skin a player,always lookslively and a constant hassle for defenders. They know there's no room for error against Zemmama. He definetly would have a place in my XI. He gives us something as bit different.

    Everybody on here was kissing his erse on this due to his good form at the start of the season. A few weeks of poorer form and injury, and he's not good enough to merit a game?
    Unfortunately the opinions of quite a few fans can change from week to week mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baw187 View Post
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    I think Gow will be played in the hole behind Stokes and Nish. C


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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_hfc View Post
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    Zemmama is one of the most gifted players at Hibs. yes he CAN be greedy, but he is one of the few can can play that killer ball, skin a player,always lookslively and a constant hassle for defenders. They know there's no room for error against Zemmama. He definetly would have a place in my XI. He gives us something as bit different.

    Everybody on here was kissing his erse on this due to his good form at the start of the season. A few weeks of poorer form and injury, and he's not good enough to merit a game?
    Dont know if Zouma will bring much to the team just now with the pitch in such a state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Story So Far... View Post
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    vs. Montrose, I'd like to see the following:

    Brown

    Thicot Hogg Bamba Murray

    Wotherspoon McBride Miller

    Gow

    Stokes Riordan

    Nish has missed a few too many chances of late and Zouma is just coming back from a period of injury (his creative ability is undoubted, but his recovery must be given time).
    Thicot is never a RB. I'd be happy with him at CH but not as a RB. He's struggled when played at RB.

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    Team plays better without him, he does too much for himself
    Completely agree. I dont see where Zemmama fits into the team now, and i'm reasonably happy with that! I've said for a while that i feel he flatters to deceive too often. We've strengthened the squad again in this transfer window with Gow coming in as another attacking option - i think its time to move the wee man on. Let him get a move to the continent, somewhere that he can play in the sun for most of the season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby View Post
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    Thicot is never a RB. I'd be happy with him at CH but not as a RB. He's struggled when played at RB.
    You weren't at Tannadice then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Story So Far... View Post
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    You weren't at Tannadice then?
    And the only other time he played there he came on at right back at half time, stolled it and completely changed the game in our favour. Forget who it was against.

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    Riordan is not a central striker, never has been and never will be. When played up front he runs off side as he has no awareness of defenders positioning, he doesn't have the body strength to hold off or out muscle a defender and lacks the pace to play off the shoulder.

    When you add that he doesn't score enough goals for the chances that are created for him then it makes its own case, Benji set him up beautifully on Saturday and he fluffed his shot at the keeper. I was looking at his stats earlier, it listed 21 starts and 53 shots at goal, less than half were on target, he also only had 4 assists and for a player that takes the majority of our free kicks, corners and penalties his goals return and assist rate are poor.

    Derek Riordan is a scorer of great goals but not a great goal scorer and if we have ambitions to ever finish higher than 3rd then he is the sort of player that should be starting on the bench. We need 90 minute players and he simply isn't one. We have to start picking players for what they actually do not what they are capable of doing.

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    Riordan is not a central striker, never has been and never will be. When played up front he runs off side as he has no awareness of defenders positioning, he doesn't have the body strength to hold off or out muscle a defender and lacks the pace to play off the shoulder.

    When you add that he doesn't score enough goals for the chances that are created for him then it makes its own case, Benji set him up beautifully on Saturday and he fluffed his shot at the keeper. I was looking at his stats earlier, it listed 21 starts and 53 shots at goal, less than half were on target, he also only had 4 assists and for a player that takes the majority of our free kicks, corners and penalties his goals return and assist rate are poor.

    Derek Riordan is a scorer of great goals but not a great goal scorer and if we have ambitions to ever finish higher than 3rd then he is the sort of player that should be starting on the bench. We need 90 minute players and he simply isn't one. We have to start picking players for what they actually do not what they are capable of doing.
    I think he could play just behind the main striker Frank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    Who else would go though from the usual line up? Zemmama? If we are playing a player in the hole and having Nish and Stokes someone needs to drop right which doesn't suit Nish or Stokes. It would mean Riordan having to play a real narrow position on the left which isn't his game.


    Smith

    Wotherspoon Hogg Bamba Murray

    McBride

    Miller Gow Riordan

    Nish Stokes

    I think I'd prefer to either drop Nish or Riordan. Maybe:

    Smith

    Wotherspoon Hogg Bamba Murray

    Miller McBride

    Zemmama Gow Riordan

    Stokes

    Or swapping Gow into Riordan's position and Nish in the hole if we need the big guy.
    That's exactly how I see Yogi lining us up, Andy. It will be Nish out and Gowser behind Stokes

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    Loads of options but I think Yogi will play Horses for Courses.

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