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    How bad is that pitch ? (Merged threads)

    The ER pitch is nothing short of a disgrace. Both teams struggled to control the ball and it made some players just look silly. St M had the right idea, get the ball forward quickly and into the box as often as possible - usually causing chaos. Hibs on the other hand continued to try play though the m/f and more often than not over/under hit passes or the target couldn't control the ball. Most Hibs players just don't have the required skills to play that type of football on a pitch as bad as that.

    I know we had a few of bad weather but that's no excuse. Do we have a groundsman ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by EasterRoad4Ever View Post
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    The ER pitch is nothing short of a disgrace. Both teams struggled to control the ball and it made some players just look silly. St M had the right idea, get the ball forward quickly and into the box as often as possible - usually causing chaos. Hibs on the other hand continued to try play though the m/f and more often than not over/under hit passes or the target couldn't control the ball. Most Hibs players just don't have the required skills to play that type of football on a pitch as bad as that.

    I know we had a few of bad weather but that's no excuse. Do we have a groundsman ?
    Pitch was sub contracted out to private company last season...I reckon its been varying types of Keek ever since

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    pitch saved us & hindered us on occassions today.

    needs sorted pronto!

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    Up there with fir park IMO, needs sorted (more than we need a gk)

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    The pitch is bad and I think that's why we resorted to punting it for a spell. Stringing quick passes together was becoming difficult.

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    The pitch is awful and will cost us points this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus View Post
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    Up there with fir park IMO, needs sorted (more than we need a gk)
    It is in some state but come on, fir park barely has any green bits left.

    Seriously though, needs sorted pronto as it will hinder us.

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    How about running a steam roller over it just to get the lumps and bumps out. Don't know how many misplaced passes today were purely down to horrific bawbles.
    I was actually watching the couple of guys at half time with their forks and thought at the time, what a waste of time. you would need the whole crowd out there with forks to do something. Now there's a thought. How about ER giving everyone a fork at half time to help flatten the pitch again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westie1875 View Post
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    It is in some state but come on, fir park barely has any green bits left.

    Seriously though, needs sorted pronto as it will hinder us.
    Your right just trying to get my point across

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus View Post
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    Up there with fir park IMO, needs sorted (more than we need a gk)
    no pitch is as bad as Fir Park,although Tannadice tries to be at times. still,at least the Buddies got a guid run out,for Tuesday

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    Quote Originally Posted by monktonharp View Post
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    no pitch is as bad as Fir Park,although Tannadice tries to be at times. still,at least the Buddies got a guid run out,for Tuesday
    Aha a ulterior motive....very clever

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    considering we have several training pitches[plus artificial] at east mains
    the pitch was an absolute DISGRACE
    bring back tam
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    ps mind you yon stmidden player was right through when it hit a clump
    so maybe we have a secret weapon


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritchie View Post
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    pitch saved us & hindered us on occassions today.

    needs sorted pronto!
    If the pitch was decent we would have murdered that mob.

    We've played 6 games on it in the last 2 months.

    I know the weather hasn't been the greatest but that's no excuse.

    Today was the worst I'd seen it in years. Last week was bad but what on earth has happened in the last week to get it in the state it was today

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    The first thought in my mind as I took my seat today was, "Ugh, it looks dead."

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    Cool

    It's a real shame that we did not draw Montrose away in the cup because that pitch needs a real rest, if it is not going to be re-laid before the season end. You would think that the company that sells and maintains[?] the under soil heating system would work in tandem with the firm that the grass comes from just to make sure that it is not harming it.

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    Until the snow before Christmas, I thought the pitch was in the best nick it had been in since the Elton John concert ruined it. Since then it has deteriorated rapidly and was brutal today. Can anything be done before the end of the season to improve it?

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    There is absolutely no point in us training on bowling greens all week only to turn up at ER to find a ploughed field waiting for us.

    If the pitch maintenance was contracted out to a private company we should be looking to withold money as that midden is guaranteed to cost us points as the season goes on.

    Its simply not good enough and whoever is responsible should be getting their p45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenblood70 View Post
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    There is absolutely no point in us training on bowling greens all week only to turn up at ER to find a ploughed field waiting for us.

    If the pitch maintenance was contracted out to a private company we should be looking to withold money as that midden is guaranteed to cost us points as the season goes on.

    Its simply not good enough and whoever is responsible should be getting their p45.

    I think the company went bust a few weeks ago and Hibs bought them.
    They are now an associated company and should have their ar*ses booted big time.
    The pitch was in better nick when there was three games a week and training on it. It might have been pretty bare but at least it was flat and drained.

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    so is tam macourt now greenkeeper at east mains then?????????
    get him bacvk
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    Bring Back Tams Team

    It has been proven over the last ten years in IT, do not outsource.
    The flatrate cost is cheaper, but deviate in any little matter from the contract was signed, you will be financially punished.

    The same goes for subcontracting the greenkeeping.

    Pay the extra dosh for an unaccountable failure in the turf OR have a shi'ite pitch.

    Very low price initially.... Tam McCourt, youre luck Hibs never emptied you when you became redundant/obsolete...Cos the pitch needs you back.

    Any change to the contract, the only penalty is COST.

    Tam had pride in his work.... sub contractors could not give a monkey's.

    BRING BACK TAMS TEAM.

    Alot of companies are now resorting back to Insourcing.... wonder why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ants View Post
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    It has been proven over the last ten years in IT, do not outsource.
    The flatrate cost is cheaper, but deviate in any little matter from the contract was signed, you will be financially punished.

    The same goes for subcontracting the greenkeeping.

    Pay the extra dosh for an unaccountable failure in the turf OR have a shi'ite pitch.

    Very low price initially.... Tam McCourt, youre luck Hibs never emptied you when you became redundant/obsolete...Cos the pitch needs you back.

    Any change to the contract, the only penalty is COST.

    Tam had pride in his work.... sub contractors could not give a monkey's.

    BRING BACK TAMS TEAM.

    Alot of companies are now resorting back to Insourcing.... wonder why?
    Agree 100%

    When Tam and his few assistants looked after the pitch it was in great nick but now it's just awful so pretty please to Mr. Petrie - dump the contractors and give the job back to someone that cares
    This is how it feels

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    Groundsmen

    Why don't Hibs have a dedicated professional whose sole responsiblity is making sure the pitch is in a decent state? Do other clubs still have them or are we the only ones to think you can run a football club without a groundsman?

    Maybe make one of these our next big signing...
    http://blog.sport.co.uk/Football/399..._Football.aspx
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    Not an expert on this but have to say the pitch looked crap today. Hardly any rain in the last few weeks but the surface was shocking. Not good for the way we play and we are really asking for trouble in the games ahead unless we sort it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Why don't Hibs have a dedicated professional whose sole responsiblity is making sure the pitch is in a decent state? Do other clubs still have them or are we the only ones to think you can run a football club without a groundsman?
    My hubbys dad was a groundsman for hibs (Need to check the dates but around 1980s+) and he to this day is a perfectionist when it comes to grass

    On another note, my friends hubby is a groundsman at Swiney and hasn't been payed since October

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    Before we buy a right back or a Centre half, the first thing we should purchase is a new pitch. That today was a disgrace., every player needed two touches to get control, and the amount of bad passes that were entirely down to that pitch was disgraceful.

    We are trying to win football games through playing football, teams that are not as good as us, will be able to shut down our players easily with our players needing so many touches to get the ball under control.

    Whoever is in charge of preparing that pitch should be sacked now.

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    David Moyes on BBC earlier moaning about the pitch at Wigan! And it's got green bits and everything.
    Loooking at ER just now is like looking out the back windae!
    In fact I've played on better backgreens.

    Yogi looks distracted about it as well - he keeps encroaching to flatten divots in front of the dug-outs.

    Bain were the contractor who carried out the landscape works at East Mains and in turn they were given the maintenance deal at ER.
    I believe they have gone into liquidation so that probably accounts for recent problems if there is to be some transition.

    But don't lets get misty-eyed about how good it was when Tam McCourt loooked after it. It was ***** then and it's ***** now.
    He's been the kitman for a good while now (and his Mrs does the Laundry) and I don't think the shorts look too sparkly while we're at it.

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    Whoever is in charge of that should be sacked now.

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    Wouldn't be so bad if this was an unusual situation but it's been bad for years.

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    I think that there is a team of ground staff that are responsible for the pitch at ER and the pitches at the training centre.

    It certainly had a bad effect on the game, both sides looked to try and play along the ground but it was hard going all afternoon.

    Quite concerned that we have another two matches to play on it in the next 10 days.

    If we needed yet another reason for summer football our pitch today is it. The weather is Scotland is simply not good enough or predictable enough to give us a good pitch for 25-30 games every year. I think that a serious look at the new artificial grass pitches would be worth while, if its good enough for the Champions League then it should be allowed in the SPL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Whoever is in charge of that should be sacked now.
    I believe that the the Stadium Manager is also Club Secretary and therefore Board Member. Unlikely to be sacked. Maybe needs to scrutinise the big nearly-green bit in front of the comfy seats?

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