Deeks

**Big Frank** · 03-01-2010 08:45 PM

Its time to bring him in from the left and play a conventional 2 up front with Stokes.

**Booked4Being-Ugly** · 03-01-2010 08:51 PM

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Its time to bring him in from the left and play a conventional 2 up front with Stokes.

Absolutely, he's a waste of space out on the left wing. I reckon him him and Stokes would be perfect up front together. I dunno why Yogi doesn't think so. We need a LM/left winger IMO to allow Riordan to move up front. Galbraith could play there but is he still a bit lighweight at the moment?

***sleeping giant*** · 03-01-2010 08:52 PM

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Its time to bring him in from the left and play a conventional 2 up front with Stokes.

Yes !!

***rainman*** · 03-01-2010 08:53 PM

I would like to see Yogi stick him up top with Stokes just to see what happens. Then, if he goes another 4/5 games as anonymous as the last 4/5, he can get the hook and I'm sure the team will benefit from it.

**Westie1875** · 03-01-2010 08:54 PM

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Its time to bring him in from the left and play a conventional 2 up front with Stokes.

Absolutely

**Fantic** · 03-01-2010 08:56 PM

he spends most of his time screaming for the ball and gets little service

***sleeping giant*** · 03-01-2010 08:56 PM

Why has no manager done this?

***Simkin911*** · 03-01-2010 08:58 PM

To be fair to Deeks, he would have also been totally isolated up front with Stokes today as;

a) the quality of the pass in the 2nd half was shocking
b) it would have been 2 versus 4 (or more)
c) our midfield support was miles away....

I'm not picking on Hogg but blindly lashing the ball "up front" is never going to suit Stokes or Deeks.

**danger1875** · 03-01-2010 09:09 PM

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Its time to bring him in from the left and play a conventional 2 up front with Stokes.

why move him of the left wing? He scored 20 + goals a season out there for us before he went looking for the big money to smeltic

**Big Frank** · 03-01-2010 09:35 PM

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why move him of the left wing? He scored 20 + goals a season out there for us before he went looking for the big money to smeltic

Because bro, I'd like to see his talent shine through as an out and out centre forward, and honestly believe that he will startbanging in the goals. I also think in yogis tenure so far at Hibernian that he isn't getting anywhere near
enough of the ball as he did under previous managers. This is shown true with a paltry 7 so far.

He's under performing (for him) in the scoring stakes.

Ps - as a side, as his detracters on this keep stating about his lasck of backtracking. I thought he did exceptionally well in the first half when rankin

ignored Zemmama and took a disgraceful corner straight to the yam. Deeks stopped the yam in his tracks on the half way line. Well done I say.

***sleeping giant*** · 03-01-2010 09:38 PM

Its also where he wants to play !!

Edit: Well it was when JR used to post on here.

**~~Hibernating (Im a stoopid yam tramp)~~** · 03-01-2010 09:40 PM

Certainly Zouma up front didn't work, was maybe worth a try by Yogi.

**James.** · 03-01-2010 09:40 PM

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Absolutely, he's a waste of space out on the left wing. I reckon him him and Stokes would be perfect up front together. I dunno why Yogi doesn't think so. We need a LM/left winger IMO to allow Riordan to move up front. Galbraith could play there but is he still a bit lighweight at the moment?

I think Galbraith is a good shout, he always looks promising when Yogi brings him off the bench. Would give us some pace on the left whilst allowing Riordan to be in a more threatening position up front with Stokes. I can't imagine Riordan is too chuffed at sitting on the left marked out the game whilst Stokes is scoring for fun.

**danger1875** · 03-01-2010 09:41 PM

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Because bro, I'd like to see his talent shine through as an out and out centre forward, and honestly believe that he will startbanging in the goals. I also think in yogis tenure so far at Hibernian that he isn't getting anywhere near
enough of the ball as he did under previous managers. This is shown true with a paltry 7 so far.

He's under performing (for him) in the scoring stakes.

Ps - as a side, as his detracters on this keep stating about his lasck of backtracking. I thought he did exceptionally well in the first half when rankin

ignored Zemmama and took a disgraceful corner straight to the yam. Deeks stopped the yam in his tracks on the half way line. Well done I say.

Bro think you see something that no professional manager has seen to date. if you see so much in players why don't you become a manager then we can judge you against mowbray, wgt, mixu and hughes. then you can say i told you so .

by the way i 2 think his work rate has increased 100% this season and think he is a more complete player now than I have seen.

**Cocaine&Caviar** · 04-01-2010 09:29 AM

Zemmama Miller McBride Rankin

Stokes Riordan

Doesnt look too bad...

**Sandy** · 04-01-2010 09:44 AM

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Zemmama Miller McBride Rankin

Stokes Riordan

Doesnt look too bad...

Rather have Galbraith than Rankin, but I suppose if the left back needed more protection ie Hanlon then I might select Rankin.

**thedoc_l** · 04-01-2010 10:50 AM

Riordan and Stokes are not a partnership, we need someone who can hold the ball up with either Riordan and Stokes playing off said player.

We lack pace and physical presence, fix this and 3rd place is a cert, if not we may struggle to hold on to 3rd.

**Cocaine&Caviar** · 04-01-2010 11:04 AM

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Riordan and Stokes are not a partnership, we need someone who can hold the ball up with either Riordan and Stokes playing off said player.

We lack pace and physical presence, fix this and 3rd place is a cert, if not we may struggle to hold on to 3rd.

Thats how we started the season, with Riordan on the left, and Stokes on the right of Nish. It just didnt work, especially at Hamilton. Obviously Nish is not a fantastic physical presence, and someone like Kevin Kyle or Chris Killen would be a better option...

***hibbie02*** · 04-01-2010 11:05 AM

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Zemmama Miller McBride Rankin

Stokes Riordan

Doesnt look too bad...

Yes it does at it has Rankin in it.

**HibeeUnderwood** · 04-01-2010 01:00 PM

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Its time to bring him in from the left and play a conventional 2 up front with Stokes.

Yes, Deeks is wasted on the left side, he should be used as a striker

and give Galbraith a chance on the left side for once

**vahibbie** · 04-01-2010 01:15 PM

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Its time to bring him in from the left and play a conventional 2 up front with Stokes.

Definitely

Deek looked quite pissed off yesterday. He either doesn't get the pass or it's coming when he's well covered and his options are *****e. TBF, he's no really got the pace for that position. Bring him inside and get him scoring

**MyJo** · 04-01-2010 02:08 PM

The last two games we have been murdered down the flanks and i think its time that Riordan was given an opportunity up front alongside Stokes.

Stokes has shown that there are opportunities there by scoring 7 in the last 5 games, Riordan is the deadliest finisher in the SPL and having him out wide left where he isn't getting a sniff of a shooting chance most games is a waste.

Getting him in the middle will give him lots more opportunities to go for goal or to lay it off for Stokes to have a pop and while its good to see him working hard for the team and tracking back etc its counter-productive if it means he isn't doing what he does best.

**Big Frank** · 04-01-2010 05:10 PM

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Bro think you see something that no professional manager has seen to date. if you see so much in players why don't you become a manager then we can judge you against mowbray, wgt, mixu and hughes. then you can say i told you so .

by the way i 2 think his work rate has increased 100% this season and think he is a more complete player now than I have seen.

That is pathetic.

**MB62** · 05-01-2010 09:23 AM

Deeks has suffered badly in the last two games in particular. He is missing Ian Murray playing left back as Ian gets up in support and in the overlap, giving Deeks another option and defenders another problem. Paul Hanlon has done fine at left back, but he doesn't get up in support of Deeks, concentrates on his defending more.

What I found confusing was listening to Yogi before the game saying Colin Nish has been our best player in the last 4 or 5 games, but he had dropped him to the bench

Personally also thought, the way we continued to lump balls up the park all day long that we needed Nish on the park and also thought Benji was worth the last 20 mins at least, just even to give their defenders a different problem.
Looked to me like Yogi was happy to settle for the point, which was disappointing.

**Sammy7nil** · 05-01-2010 11:20 AM

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Zemmama Miller McBride Rankin

Stokes Riordan

Doesnt look too bad...

Looks very small and lightweight

**sam armstrong** · 05-01-2010 01:15 PM

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Its time to bring him in from the left and play a conventional 2 up front with Stokes.

Don't agree, he is not great as a main striker and has always done better coming in from the left. He had two of the best chances in the game and will be disappointed he never finished them. The one that miller sent across the face of the goals in particular. He will still score his usual quota this season though.

**jgl07** · 05-01-2010 01:27 PM

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That is pathetic.

But it is true.

OK Blobby sometimes played Riordan up front with O'Connor.

Mowbray always played him wide left as did Mixu and Hughes.

Does it not tell you something?

**ancient hibee** · 05-01-2010 03:27 PM

Mowbray played Zibi and Brown does that tell you something?

***BSEJVT*** · 05-01-2010 04:15 PM

Dont agree either.

As part of a 2 man strike force Derek would IMO be easily picked up by the 2nd centre half and right back and doesnt have the physical attributes to hold them off. He is also not that great with his back to the goals.

He no longer has the pace to run onto through balls.

So playing him wide puts him up against the right back, and gives him the chance to get the ball to feet facing the goals and take him on on either side and score goals / create something.

**Baw187** · 05-01-2010 04:24 PM

Leave Deek where he is. If we'd got the ball to him more on Sunday, we'd have done better. When he did get it, we scored or created chances.

In a few games time, he'll have banged in 4 goals and we'll have forgot all about this conversation.

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