The main reason we never won either is our central midfield is too weak. Michael Stewart has bossed Liam Miller in both matches and in my opinion is a far better player.
Millers performce this outing was marginally better but still in Stewarts back pocket.
Rankin done well in the 1st half but fell away.
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03-01-2010 05:42 PM #1
Mikey Stewart > Liam Miller (ed: ???)
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03-01-2010 05:46 PM #3
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03-01-2010 05:51 PM #6
I thought Michael Stewart was the best player on the park today, however there is no doubtibg that Liam Miller is a seriously good player.l
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Ps - 100% correct.
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McBride makes a huge difference to our midfield though and it was great to see him come on in the 2nd half.
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03-01-2010 06:00 PM #11
As much as it annoys me I thought Stewart was as good as Miller today. There is no doubting Miller is the better player though and Miller was certainly not bossed in these matches, it was probably one of the highlights of the match watching them battle it out today though.
As for the Rankin comment I thought he was awful today. Also when McBride and Miller are together we pish all over their midfield!Last edited by Mikey_1875; 03-01-2010 at 06:02 PM.
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Stewart is a better all round player. How many goals has Miller scored? How many daft passes does Miller spray across the middle of the park (in particular last 2 games) and nearly cost goals? He has a few nice touches but that's about it. Stewart breaks up the play can pass the ball and scores goals.
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The vast majority of his goals for Hearts have been from the penalty spot this season.
I know who I'd rather have in the Hibs midfield, and it aint that moaning faced p***k!!
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Anyway your arguement holds not weight, how many of MS goals are from pens?Last edited by scott7_0(Prague); 03-01-2010 at 06:10 PM.
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I think you are a horrible Yam.
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Tosser!
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I'm still waiting for Miller to play a pass which actually puts a striker through.As usual we played far too much across the field in front of their defence and were too slow in playing the ball wide.Still-this is the Hughes way and he isn't going to change.
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I hope someone snaps him in two one day!
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03-01-2010 06:33 PM #23
When I watch stewart play this season, he is a guy who doesnt do a lot imo, but spends a lot of time highlighting what little he does.
He is always visible shouting at refs when it suits him, he follows the ball abt looking for a pass without ever much being of anything except the conservative option (which I know can be a constructive way to play, but only if you are in a team that wants to play football and with attackminded players), and also rarely makes a telling pass.
I once read an article by jim mclean (I know I know) lamenting the new breed of midfielders who dont really defend or really attack, they just sort of hang about, getting plenty touches but not doing a lot with the ball or taking responsibility, this is what I think Stewart is an example of.
He shouts at refs, makes daft lunge tackles, and picks up yellows and reds, all of which appeal to the moronic majority over the way, who interpret this as committed, to me it just shows a petulant clown.
Just my opinion likes
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I agree about rankin, dont think he brings much to the table for us.
Of the other 2, I think miller is the better attacking wise, better passer and vision, whilst stewart is probably the better defensively, in part due to physical stature.
From what I remember of miller at celtic, he would run at players a lot more (in part due to playing wider), but his game now, or at least what yogi wants him to do, is more akin to a facilitator, drifting where he needs to be to get on the ball, make telling passes and influence the game. I think when he has mcbride with him he can play 10 yards further up the pitch, which can be crucial, whereas beside rankin he seems to play deeper, limiting his impact. I thought miller seemed to start to dictate a bit for us after mcbride came on.
Stewart would prob be a better player in a team that doesnt play hoofball, but I wouldnt take him back at the expense of miller, in fact I doubt he'd be a better option than the mcbride-miller tandem.
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03-01-2010 07:09 PM #26
Good point.
I think Miller has been attempting to do 2 jobs while McBride hasn't been available and this has blunted his threat
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03-01-2010 07:16 PM #28
I feel the negative tactics which Hearts employ made it hard for our midfield today. They are set up to stop you playing and they do it very well. Stewart played okay but his job is to get up and support the lone striker. miller is to sit in and set our forward players free, which was hard when you have two fairly solid banks of four.
after the sendings off made it even more difficult as Hearts brought on Black to keep the solid midfield four and we lost Wotherspoon out of the midfield leaving us numerically down in numbers. I don't class Deek as a useful midfielder to even things up.
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