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1915: BREAKING NEWS BBC 5 live report that Wolves boss Mick McCarthy has made 10 changes from the team that beat Spurs for the game at Old Trafford. I have no words...
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15-12-2009 06:21 PM #1
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McCARTHY puts the noose round his own neck?
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15-12-2009 06:26 PM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-12-2009 06:26 PM #3
He's obviously given up taking anything from the top 4 or 5 teams and is concentrating on the matches against the other bottom sides. I suppose it makes some sort of sense but just shows the gulf between the top 4 or 5 and the rest.
And the SPL gets called uncompetitive
Best league in the world? No chance.
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15-12-2009 06:30 PM #4
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15-12-2009 06:37 PM #5
Hopefully Berra is playing and suffers a demoralising humping the yam tit that he is...
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15-12-2009 06:48 PM #6
McCarthy should refund the fans who paid to see Wolves tonight as opposed to Wolves reserves. Talk about lack of ambition!
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15-12-2009 08:23 PM #7
I can see his point, his first team got beaten in the Carling cup earlier on this season by United's reserves, they have won their last couple of league matches and have a game this weekend at home against Burnley which if they are to stay up this year is a must win game.
Why risk players being injured or suspended during a game they are unlikely to win even at their best.
If we get to the end of the season and by some divine intervention we get into the Scottish Cup final I'd want Yogi to be making sure we have all of our best players fit and available for the game, if that means our youth team plays our last couple of league games then so be it.
Pretty sure I remember Jambo Jim doing the exact same thing leading up to the 98 cup final where they beat Rangers.
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16-12-2009 08:50 AM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The flange to the left of him in the black jacket gives me the creeps.
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16-12-2009 08:58 AM #10
Wolves were 18/1 last night and where never going to win the game, even if they did put their full strenght team out. I still dont think he should have changed the whole team but maybe rested 4 or 5 of his best players. I bet the fans wont be complaining if they beat Burnley on Saturday and they move up 5 or 6 places in the league.
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16-12-2009 10:04 AM #11
That used to be a great tactic in old Fooball Manager type games. Used to always put all the dross in for the cup games to give my decent players a rest. Got absolutely horsed but all my first team were nice and fresh for the next league game.
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16-12-2009 11:05 AM #13
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And yes I do have an agenda against spuds but they ain't close to Chelsea united or arsenal in the slightest.
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16-12-2009 11:41 AM #14
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seems the Wolves fans were not too chuffed at last night's game, calling for a refund of their cash (min ticket £40).
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16-12-2009 12:06 PM #15
Thw Premier League board have asked wolves to explain their team selection. Bit of a farce, why are United or Arsenal never hauled to task over the fact they treat the League cup with utter contempt for example.
Media hype and an easy club to make an example off.
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16-12-2009 12:14 PM #16
There is a rule stating you must play your strongest possible team, am not sure if it applies to the carling cup but that is the EPL rules. Its a crazy rule, how do you justify who your strongest team is, and it should be up to the club who they want to play. I think what McCarthy has done is sort of acceptable, saying that I would be gutted if I had paid £40 for a ticket.
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16-12-2009 02:18 PM #17
In terms of credibility where will he be left if Wolves don't beat Burnley? Owen Coyle must be telling his troops that Wolves see them as three points to be had. McCarthy must take his arguement to the logical conclusion however and that would be to always play a fringe team away from home or play fringe teams at home when sides like Man U come calling.
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16-12-2009 02:51 PM #18
The Wolves fans need a reality check. They just beat Spurs away from Home on Saturday and are playing again just 3 days later. A lot of teams will have rotated their teams last night and have the strength in depth to have it go unnoticed. McCarthy is doing a decent job with the squad he has and he knows the EPL is a marathon and not a sprint. They have a much more winnable game coming up at the weekend V Burnley and I doubt the (slighlty injured plagued) Wolves first team would have got much change out of a Man United team ,who were looking to take their frustration out after getting beat at the weekend, anyway. I can understand the fans anger at having to spend the money to go watch what wasn't their strongest team, but watching the guy on Sky Sports saying he will be going to Jez Moxey to get his money back is just laughable. Let the manager get on with his job.
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16-12-2009 03:10 PM #19
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However, the problem I have is that if you condone this kind of behaviour, then you are effectively saying it is okay for teams in the bottom half to "lie down" to stronger opposition. I think this would be a worrying situation, because (as with the Old Firm in the SPL) the top four in England spend most of their season playing against inferior opposition, and it is often the points dropped against these that make all the difference come the end of the campaign. If the smaller teams aren't even going to try to be competitive with Man Utd etc, why bother with a 20 team EPL?
Obviously, the stakes are much lower in Scotland, but can you imagine if Falkirk and Kilmarnock decided they would only play reserve sides against the Old Firm, in order to concentrate on avoiding relegation? We'd be raging this season - I know I'd probably be thinking "Hibs might've split the Old Firm/won the league if those wee teams hadn't bottled it".
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16-12-2009 03:23 PM #20
Much that I like Mick McCarthey, I think he's got this one wrong as he has now put himself under huge pressure with the upcoming games against "lesser" opposition. Wolves had better win them or poor Mick will end up looking a bit silly.
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16-12-2009 03:27 PM #21
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16-12-2009 05:51 PM #22
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Who's to say that the players left out weren't showing signs of weariness, or carrying minor knocks? It's McCarthy's call after all.
McCarthy has been totally realistic about his job this season every time he's been interviewed - he needs to end the season in at worst fourth-bottom place. That's success, relegation is failure.
What McCarthy has to do now - and this is the tricky bit - is get at least a point against Burnley at the weekend....
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17-12-2009 12:26 PM #25
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Problem for McCarthy later in the season, of course, is that it gives other teams carte blanche to field weaker teams against his relegation competitors. He would have to bite his tongue then.
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17-12-2009 01:02 PM #26
I think this will cost Wolves. Last season Martin O'Neill left out most of his team for their UEFA Cup tie, Aston Villa got put out, and they went on a bad run for the rest of the season.
These kind of decisions can seriously damage the goodwill a manager builds up with the fans and affect team spirit. You can't pick and choose which games to try in when fans are paying loads of money to watch.
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17-12-2009 01:07 PM #27
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Managers should be able to play any team they want from their squad. Perhaps you shouldn't come out and say your regular first team squad isn't good enough so what's the point but if you keep your reasons to yourself then there should be no problem.
There was a big deal made out of it last season when Man U did it Vs Hull so to say that no one questions it is wrong.
The only way to combat this would be to restrict teams to say 16/18 squad players. You would then be forced to play most of your best players.
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