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Is every decision by a referee now requiring the "Willie seal of approval"?
Shut up and sort out your crap team ya numpty.
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24-11-2009 09:28 AM #1
Willie Miller at it again
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24-11-2009 10:13 AM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-11-2009 10:17 AM #3
Typical Daily Record can't even get the referee's name correct. The referee in the picture is Crawford Allan, not Steve.
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24-11-2009 10:25 AM #4This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-11-2009 10:37 AM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Referee's decisions have always had to pass the Miller 'Seal of Approval' process. The guy would add ten minutes to the duration of a game by constantly arguing over free-kicks, throw-ins, and yellow cards against Aberdeen. A red card against them mean WW3 breaking out.
It's no coincidence that the Dons' manager at the time was Alex Ferguson.
I seem to recall that whenever Miller started ranting at the ref, one of the Aberdeen forwards was right there joining in. Cannae quite place his name though - began with an 'M', I think. A fat, torn-faced, cheating plook with a bad haircut, IIRC.
Now what on earth was his name..... ?
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24-11-2009 10:39 AM #6
If I was Willie Miller, I would be far more upset with that dismissal than with either of the red cards that they got at Easter Road.
Even although the referee was technically correct in producing a second yellow card, McDonald didn't remove his shirt (which would have given the referee no option but to book him), he lifted it up and pointed to his (bare) stomach. He had no controversial message on a t-shirt or anything like that and that is where the referee could have used his common sense (remember McGhee and Miller coming out with this after the Hibs game!?) by turning a blind eye.
It's unbelievable that they are happy to accept this decision and yet they were so incensed when Chris Maguire was shown a red card for making a challenge that could easily have broken Kevin McBride's ankle.
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24-11-2009 10:46 AM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
FH - Miller and McGhee aren't happy with the decision. They're NEVER happy with any decision that goes against the Dons. They're the bifurcated epitome of the Professional Whinger.
Miller's trying to make sure that any player from now on who pulls his shirt over his head will be booked.
He's probably trying to get the ET advert banned all over again.
But TBF - McGhee never once pulled HIS shirt over his head - he couldnae get it up ower his fat belly. Miller was too busy ranting.Last edited by --------; 24-11-2009 at 10:49 AM.
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24-11-2009 10:48 AM #8
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Celebration of a goal
While it is permissible for a player to demonstrate his joy when a goal has been scored, the celebration must not be excessive.
Reasonable celebrations are allowed, but the practice of choreographed celebrations is not to be encouraged when it results in excessive time-wasting and referees are instructed to intervene in such cases.
A player must be cautioned if:
• in the opinion of the referee, he makes gestures which are provocative, derisory or inflammatory
• he climbs on to a perimeter fence to celebrate a goal being scored
• he removes his shirt or covers his head with his shirt
• he covers his head or face with a mask or other similar item
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24-11-2009 10:53 AM #9
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24-11-2009 10:58 AM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I know this is changing the subject slightly but how hard would it be for the referee to check the players before the match and again before the second half starts to make sure that they have no t-shirts on that have any messages on them?
That way they could then take their tops off, if they so wished, when they score, without being in danger of receiving a yellow card or, as in McDonald's case, a second yellow and a subsequent one match ban for something so stupid.
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24-11-2009 11:00 AM #11
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Jeez - what a F**gin
How Miller the brass neck to still be going on about the red cards at ER is amazing - Maguire's in particular was a potential ankle breaker and more than fully deserved an instant red.
Ironically, I have sympathy for the guy who got sent off for celebrating his new born baby - it just goes to show how cock eyed some of the rules of the game are - it's supposed to be entertainment afterall, yet players can be sent off just for showing a bit of exuberance in celebrating a goal
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24-11-2009 11:00 AM #12
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I find it very unusual that both he as the Director of Football and his players who earn a living from the game, never knew of the rule.
Maybe they should go back to farming.
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24-11-2009 11:01 AM #13
"When Maurice Ross and Chris Maguire were wrongly sent off against Hibs I took a stand because we have been on the wrong end of a number of bad refereeing decisions.
What a complete kn*bh**d.
I know he got away with this as a player - are they going to let him away with mentioning this every week?
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24-11-2009 11:08 AM #14
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While I agree it's a petty law - it's a law nevertheless. And I would be pretty cheesed off if a Hibs player was cautioned for simple ignorance of the laws.
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24-11-2009 11:11 AM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-11-2009 11:13 AM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Naw, Frank was too thick. He just made up the numbers.
On a tangent (OP please forgive):
Did you ever hear the story of Frank's new house? He bought a house not long after he moved to Aberdeen, and one day after training he invited Jim Bett (later manager of the Iceland team - the country, not the foodstore) to come round and see it.
Jim agreed, and they drove round in his car. It was around this time of year, and the nights were drawing in. When they got there, Frank got really upset.
The lights were on.
"Whit's goin on?" he raged. "There's squatters living in ma new hoose! Thiv jist made theresels at hame and settled in! That's no right! Ah'm getting ma lawyer oantae thum!"
And he started up the garden path to confront the 'squatters'.
At which point Jim Bett had to point out to him that he'd bought one half of a pair of semi-detached....
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24-11-2009 11:19 AM #18
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24-11-2009 12:03 PM #21
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24-11-2009 12:24 PM #22
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Is there anyone on the board at Aberdeen with the name Bob? If so he could step in a subject decsions to the boabie factor, or give them a good boabying, in willies absence.
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24-11-2009 12:30 PM #23This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Refs could be renamed Willies and any dispute could be refered to a board of Willies at the SFA.
There could even be a Willie Brand and refs could compete to get the most Willies and thereby stake their claim for Willie of the year.
Hang on, isn't that scheme currently in place?
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24-11-2009 12:47 PM #24This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-11-2009 12:58 PM #25
The common sense argument doesn't really wash considering it's not only Aberdeen's interests at heart. If McDonald hadn't being booked again, instead of properly applying the rules no matter how daft, do Motherwell not have a greater complaint?
And how have they still not been charged for taking the huff after the Hibs game?!? That genuinely annoys me. I can't think of as blatant a case of disrepute that hasn't been taken further.Last edited by Broken Gnome; 24-11-2009 at 01:01 PM.
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24-11-2009 01:14 PM #26This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Why is he not being pulled up for the constant barrage he is giving refs?
Can see the away game just before Xmas getting a bit tasty to be honest.
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24-11-2009 01:24 PM #27This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
That so-called management team of Miller ( director of football) or in other words the SFA rulemaker and Mcgee (manager) or in other words a ****in knobend really take the term "toys oot the pram" to a new level
The whole scenario at ER after the game with their whining and bleating even after TV completely proved the sendings-off and IM's tackle were perfectly legitimate was unbelievable
Horrible, horrible club
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24-11-2009 01:46 PM #28
He seems to have acquired the less appealing aspects of Sir Alex without the more successful ones.
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24-11-2009 01:51 PM #29This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Ignorance of the law isn't a viable defence in any court I know.
Part of being a professional is knowing the rules of the game you're supposed to be professional at playing.
Part of being a professional coach/manager is making sure your players know the rules - that's assuming, of course, that the manager/coach knows the rules himself.
I'd be cheesed off if a Hibs player was cautioned or sent off and it turned out he didn't know the partucular rule or law he'd broken, but I wouldn't blame the referee; I'd blame the player himself and the manager.
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24-11-2009 02:08 PM #30This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Someone did indeed, Jim. I think it might have been a senior referee....
I have two friends who referee at Grade 2 level - mostly in the Juniors. The amount of abuse they have to take is unbelievable - from fans, from players, from managers.
Thye've been threatened with violence; they've been actually assaulted - one of them went back to the dressingroom after a game to find someone had dumped all his gear in the shower and turned the water on. They've had their cars' tyres deflated (they now carry foot-pumps in the boot); they've had tyres slashed in the club carparks; smetimes they have to get the association in to even be paid their fees.
Which leaves me in no doubt as to why Scottish football is suffering from a scarcity of referees and match officials. And then you gtet balloons like Miller and McGhee giving them a hard time....
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