Why Don't We Bid To Bring Back Whittaker?

**smurf** · 26-10-2009 12:27 PM

I think HBOS would accept any reasonable offer.

RB is our obvious weak spot. Problem solved.

**cwilliamson85** · 26-10-2009 12:28 PM

we could not afford his wages now he has had a taste of the big £££

***Oscar T Grouch*** · 26-10-2009 12:30 PM

Dinae want to be a pedant but I believe it's Lloyds TSB that are running der hun at the moment

**smurf** · 26-10-2009 12:31 PM

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we could not afford his wages now he has had a taste of the big £££

Same was said of the likes of Riordan, Stokes & Millar.

**The_Sauz** · 26-10-2009 12:31 PM

Good in the midfield, but murder at RB

**zlatan** · 26-10-2009 12:33 PM

It would be highly amusing if we offered them 50k with 50 monthly instalments of 1k.

But I'm sure Rod isn't that childish and wouldn't enjoy that one bit, no siree bob...

**smurf** · 26-10-2009 12:34 PM

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Dinae want to be a pedant but I believe it's Lloyds TSB that are running der hun at the moment

No it's HBOS but HBOS are owned by Lloyds TSB.... But we the taxpayer own Lloyds TSB.

However, David Murray still owns the Huns just that he's given up the running of the show to the British Taxpayer.

The now really are The People. Owned by the People for the People to laugh at.

All rather confusing....

**sambajustice** · 26-10-2009 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by smurf

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I think HBOS would accept any reasonable offer.

RB is our obvious weak spot. Problem solved.

He's not Hibs Class anymore!

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 26-10-2009 12:52 PM

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Good in the midfield, but murder at RB

I can only remember him playing in midfield once for Hibs? It wasn't a great game either...

**magnificent_seven** · 26-10-2009 12:56 PM

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I can only remember him playing in midfield once for Hibs? It wasn't a great game either...

SC semi vs Yams?

Dreadful day.

***matty_f*** · 26-10-2009 12:57 PM

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I can only remember him playing in midfield once for Hibs? It wasn't a great game either...

same here. would have him back in a second though, thought he was very underrated while he was here.

**Big Frank** · 26-10-2009 12:57 PM

His positional sense is dreadful.

**chorley_fm** · 26-10-2009 12:59 PM

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Good in the midfield, but murder at RB

wrong

he played most of his games at hibs at right back and did a really good job

this notion thats he's better in midfield is a fallacy

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 26-10-2009 01:01 PM

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SC semi vs Yams?

Dreadful day.

It's the only time I can remember him play there - although I see the "he's a midfielder" myth is still alive and kicking!

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same here. would have him back in a second though, thought he was very underrated while he was here.

He was under-rated while at Hibs, I think he still is. Maybe he was outshone by Murphy? We don't really appreciate our home-grown guys, did we ever have a song for KT, Brown, GOC, Riordan, Whittaker? Don't think so but as soon as Boozy and Zemamma signed they were allocated one.

**~~Hibercelona~~** · 26-10-2009 01:06 PM

Most of the Rangers fans i've spoken to (used a weegie translator) think Whittaker is dreadful.

Would have him back here.

On the same note... why is it that when any of our players move to the OF, they end up turning out gash?

**Ritchie** · 26-10-2009 01:52 PM

id have him back but id rather Kevin McCannavaro got himself fit!

***basehibby*** · 26-10-2009 01:58 PM

Whitts is a star going forward - has always had weaknesses in his defensive game but you rarely get everything in a player.

The huns that are saying he is dreadful must have their eyes shut a lot of the time - good example - who was it that played the initial cross for Rankgers' goal on Saturday?????

He's an excellent attacking full back who can play on either side of defence or in midfield - we couldn't afford to bring him back right now if we wanted to IMO. If the huns flog him it will be to an EPL side.

**Wilson** · 26-10-2009 02:23 PM

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He's an excellent attacking full back who can play on either side of defence or in midfield - we couldn't afford to bring him back right now if we wanted to IMO. If the huns flog him it will be to an EPL side.

I agree with the sentiment but I reckon one of the better championship sides is more likely than the EPL.

**rightwinger** · 26-10-2009 02:27 PM

I don't think Whittaker is that good a player to be honest.

He's decent going forward but his end product is often erratic. He's also very predictable and always seems to cut inside instead of taking his man on and getting to the byline. Defensively he's poor and that's been proven time and again.

Whittaker's gone to Rangers - a bigger club in the SPL. On paper, therefore, he's getting it easier every week and should be showing it. He isn't. Next to the likes of Mendes, Davis, Bougherra etc he should be looking a really good player but he's not. He looks like the same overrated, unreliable, one-footed luxury he did when he played with us.

That's not to say he wasn't a good player for us, but he certainly wasn't as good as Murphy and worth nowhere near 2 million.

If you want to know why the OF are struggling you need only look at their signing policy in recent years. Its largely been pay over the odds for players from other SPL clubs. Sorry, but how are you going to get better by signing a wealth of players from clubs you are already much stronger than?

Without the green-tinted specs and scapegoats like Stephen Glass to cover for them, players like Thomson, Brown and Whittaker are now not quite so good as we remember. Definitely not worth the combined £8.5m we got for them. The same goes for the likes of Naismith. Would Rangers give those players back for the £6m they spent on them?! Hang on while I phone the bank for an answer. Its ironic that the OF missed out on the one player we didn't get such a good deal on - David Murphy - I think he'd have a been a great buy for either at £1.5m.

I know he's still learning, but I'd stick with Wotherspoon as our right back for now. I've also wondered what Hogg might be like there. Like many, I have my doubts about him as a CB, and would rather see Murray there with Bamba, but - with mistakes generally less costly - RB may be a position that suits him.

***basehibby*** · 26-10-2009 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by rightwinger

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I don't think Whittaker is that good a player to be honest.

He's decent going forward but his end product is often erratic. He's also very predictable and always seems to cut inside instead of taking his man on and getting to the byline. Defensively he's poor and that's been proven time and again.

Whittaker's gone to Rangers - a bigger club in the SPL. On paper, therefore, he's getting it easier every week and should be showing it. He isn't. Next to the likes of Mendes, Davis, Bougherra etc he should be looking a really good player but he's not. He looks like the same overrated, unreliable, one-footed luxury he did when he played with us.

That's not to say he wasn't a good player for us, but he certainly wasn't as good as Murphy and worth nowhere near 2 million.

If you want to know why the OF are struggling you need only look at their signing policy in recent years. Its largely been pay over the odds for players from other SPL clubs. Sorry, but how are you going to get better by signing a wealth of players from clubs you are already much stronger than?

Without the green-tinted specs and scapegoats like Stephen Glass to cover for them, players like Thomson, Brown and Whittaker are now not quite so good as we remember. Definitely not worth the combined £8.5m we got for them. The same goes for the likes of Naismith. Would Rangers give those players back for the £6m they spent on them?! Hang on while I phone the bank for an answer. Its ironic that the OF missed out on the one player we didn't get such a good deal on - David Murphy - I think he'd have a been a great buy for either at £1.5m.

I know he's still learning, but I'd stick with Wotherspoon as our right back for now. I've also wondered what Hogg might be like there. Like many, I have my doubts about him as a CB, and would rather see Murray there with Bamba, but - with mistakes generally less costly - RB may be a position that suits him.

Opinions eh?!?
The first bit in bold is a shower of Nade IMO - Whittaker's end product has improved markedly in the last couple of years and he was very much UNDER-rated by many Hibbies anyway IMO (obviously including yourself). It's acknowledged that he's not the best defensive fullback, but I thought £2M was a steal for him and I still hold that opinion (Alan Hutton for example went to Spurs for £8M and he's no great shakes defensively either).

I also disagree with the second bold bit - a player is worth as much as the buyer is willing to pay and if the OF get less back than they paid out for these players it would only be because everybody knows they're skint right now and need the money combined with the effects of the recession on prospective buyers (or in Thomson's case because of persistant injury problems). All 3 of the players mentioned are regular Scotland squad members when available now and that will NOT have had a negative effect on their value.

***Alex Trager*** · 26-10-2009 02:55 PM

I've also wondered what Hogg might be like there. Like many, I have my doubts about him as a CB, and would rather see Murray there with Bamba, but - with mistakes generally less costly - RB may be a position that suits him.

Hogg was pushed out onto to the right when stevenson come on on saturday , as i recall.....

***hibbie02*** · 26-10-2009 03:02 PM

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I've also wondered what Hogg might be like there. Like many, I have my doubts about him as a CB, and would rather see Murray there with Bamba, but - with mistakes generally less costly - RB may be a position that suits him.

Hogg was pushed out onto to the right when stevenson come on on saturday , as i recall.....

Is it just me............????????

**~~TornadoHibby~~** · 26-10-2009 03:04 PM

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Same was said of the likes of Riordan, Stokes & Millar.

Just saw him getting into a silver "08" plate one of these in Cockburn Street around an hour or so ago!

Clearly not short of cash as these cars are not affordable for most people!

**Wilson** · 26-10-2009 03:08 PM

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Clearly not short of cash as these cars are not affordable for most people!

I couldn't afford to look at the picture! Peg selling is grim during the downturn

**TheBall'sRound** · 26-10-2009 03:08 PM

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I've also wondered what Hogg might be like there. Like many, I have my doubts about him as a CB, and would rather see Murray there with Bamba, but - with mistakes generally less costly - RB may be a position that suits him.

Hogg was pushed out onto to the right when stevenson come on on saturday , as i recall.....

That substitution was made at a stage of the game where we were reeling - looked very slack and sluggish at the back. I thought Murray coming into the middle made a big difference though Hogg didn't really do much in the right back position.

I think Hogg would be an ideal right back against the likes of Lafferty and other big huddies, however I wouldn't fancy him against O'Brien of Motherwell or Swanson of United or McGeady of Celtic or...

We desperately need a centre half for when Rambo goes to the African Nations - it will be interesting to see if Yogi brings someone else in and what the score will be after Bamba comes back.

**Andy74** · 26-10-2009 03:18 PM

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Dinae want to be a pedant but I believe it's Lloyds TSB that are running der hun at the moment

Lloyds Banking Group even?

***jacomo*** · 26-10-2009 03:50 PM

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Most of the Rangers fans i've spoken to (used a weegie translator) think Whittaker is dreadful.

Would have him back here.

On the same note... why is it that when any of our players move to the OF, they end up turning out gash?

Well, he had a part in Boyd's goal at the weekend and has looked decent every time I've seen him play for Rangers.

I think perhaps that Scottish football crowds are suspicious of a defender who is more comfortable with the ball at his feet than charging into tackles, judging by the views on here.

I'd welcome him right back into the team, without a moment's hesitation. In fact, him and Wotherspoon on the right would be very tasty, IMO.

***Jonnyboy*** · 26-10-2009 04:00 PM

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Most of the Rangers fans i've spoken to (used a weegie translator) think Whittaker is dreadful.

Would have him back here.

On the same note... why is it that when any of our players move to the OF, they end up turning out gash?

Most of the Rangers fans I've spoken to think Rangers are terrible

***NORTHERNHIBBY*** · 26-10-2009 07:20 PM

Whittaker would fit right into our thinking. That thinking being, playing midfielders at the back. If we really need a new right back, let's buy one in the window. Not make and mend with midfielders. We have been doing this all the way back to Stephen Glass. Sure that McLiesh played Dirk Pornstar at right back too.