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    MAde all the more ridiculous when conway and lee miller are starting ahead of him, when both weren't even selected originally

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    Or Fletcher. Lee Miller on his own up front. Yes, that's Lee Miller of Aberdeen. Just look at it from a Hibs point of view though, the less time he spends on the pitch, the less chance of him getting injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    MAde all the more ridiculous when conway and lee miller are starting ahead of him, when both weren't even selected originally
    That's what makes no sense, these guys weren't good enough in the managers eyes to get in the squad before him so how does he justify starting them ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee View Post
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    That's what makes no sense, these guys weren't good enough in the managers eyes to get in the squad before him so how does he justify starting them ?

    Possibly joined george foulkes drinking soiree's???

    Foulkes slavers his pish, george doesnt say as much but his actions certainly look to be those of someone completely sloshed......

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    MAde all the more ridiculous when conway and lee miller are starting ahead of him, when both weren't even selected originally
    The fact that he was in the original squad before the 10 call offs and only given 10mins at the end of the game is insulting to the player to say the least. Riordan was only included due to preasure from some of the press guys but he quite obviously doesn`t fit into Burleys idea of a team of "workhorses".

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolm-bogie View Post
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    The fact that he was in the original squad before the 10 call offs and only given 10mins at the end of the game is insulting to the player to say the least. Riordan was only included due to preasure from some of the press guys but he quite obviously doesn`t fit into Burleys idea of a team of "workhorses".

    Uttering the name of burley and any of the following worda should result in straitjackets and rubber rooms.

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    How the f*** did this guy ever manage to get Ipswich into europe???!!!

    He has no clue what he's doing. He looks like little boy lost on the touchline (dont get me started on grown men wearing tracksuits), get him tae buggery.

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    Miller, Adam and Conway starting for Scotland. There's hope for us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Minute View Post
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    No start for deek plucking joke
    Mauybe he was trying to create the worlds 2nd best pub team...........


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    Burley is a Grade A jakey yam phanny..

    Riordan shouldn't waste any of his own time by being part of the farce that is the full national side..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number_10 View Post
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    Burley is a Grade A jakey yam phanny..

    Riordan shouldn't waste any of his own time by being part of the farce that is the full national side..
    That would make him as bad as Kris Boyd, who has rightly been condemned as an arse because of that kind of attitude. Did you agree with Boyd or is it just because Deek is a Hibby. I do agree that he should have played a far bigger part today but walking away is not the answer, scoring more goals for the Hibs is.

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    Burley is a Grade A jakey yam phanny..

    Riordan shouldn't waste any of his own time by being part of the farce that is the full national side..
    with yourt first comment and that the national side is currently a farce but imo Deeks should always be available, stay 100% behind the boss in public - even if he doesn't believe it, and keep banging the goals in for the Hibees. He keeps his self respect and Burley is the one that looks like a total dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weecounty hibby View Post
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    That would make him as bad as Kris Boyd, who has rightly been condemned as an arse because of that kind of attitude. Did you agree with Boyd or is it just because Deek is a Hibby. I do agree that he should have played a far bigger part today but walking away is not the answer, scoring more goals for the Hibs is.
    It does make you question Burley's man management skills and his overall tactics when the two most naturally gifted goal scorers couldn't/can't get a decent opportunity.

    It is always wrong to turn your back on your country but the more I see the more I question whether Burley should be anywhere near the Scotland team. I orignally thought that Burley was a good appointment, but not now.

    All teams need a work ethic to win but without someone capable of putting the ball in the net you will win nothing.

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    As long as Burley persists with a boring 4-5-1 formation, which he should drop in view of the few goals it has brought him in his short international management career so far, there will be no place for Deek in the Scotland team regardless of the number of goals he scores for Hibs.
    Whilst not agreeing Deek should do a Boyd and snub the international team, the fact Lee Miller who hasn't scored a goal all season and not even a first choice call up is chosen to start before Deek must be a real slap in the face though.
    Burley unfortunately has no idea about team selection and probably thought it was Kenny Miller he'd chosen and not Lee Miller today. Same end result, useless striker with no goal threat!

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    As long as Burley persists with a boring 4-5-1 formation, which he should drop in view of the few goals it has brought him in his short international management career so far, there will be no place for Deek in the Scotland team regardless of the number of goals he scores for Hibs.
    Whilst not agreeing Deek should do a Boyd and snub the international team, the fact Lee Miller who hasn't scored a goal all season and not even a first choice call up is chosen to start before Deek must be a real slap in the face though.
    Burley unfortunately has no idea about team selection and probably thought it was Kenny Miller he'd chosen and not Lee Miller today. Same end result, useless striker with no goal threat!
    But as you say, Burley is playing 4-5-1, if Deek is seen as a striker, does anyone think he would be good as a lone forward in the Scotland system? I don't. Had we been playing a 4-4-2 or something and he'd been snubbed then there'd be a point to the argument.

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    We are soon going to be able to pick a decent Scottish 11 who are unavailable (for whatever reasons) since Burley came in. Deek might be quoted for that team pretty soon I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottB View Post
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    But as you say, Burley is playing 4-5-1, if Deek is seen as a striker, does anyone think he would be good as a lone forward in the Scotland system? I don't. Had we been playing a 4-4-2 or something and he'd been snubbed then there'd be a point to the argument.
    I agree Deek wouldn't be any good as the lone striker in a 4-5-1 but why are we playing this formation, especially in what had pre-match become a pretty meaningless friendly?
    Was this not the time for Burley to throw caution to the wind and become a bit more adventurous? As things stand Scotland have no chance of qualifying for Euro 2012 playing with a lone striker, especially when, McFadden excluded, there is not a lot of goals in our midfield either.

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    I agree Deek wouldn't be any good as the lone striker in a 4-5-1 but why are we playing this formation, especially in what had pre-match become a pretty meaningless friendly?
    Was this not the time for Burley to throw caution to the wind and become a bit more adventurous? As things stand Scotland have no chance of qualifying for Euro 2012 playing with a lone striker, especially when, McFadden excluded, there is not a lot of goals in our midfield either.
    Oh I agree, personally 4-5-1 is only useful in a backs to the wall type situation, we shouldn't be doing it in every game. But thats not really the issue for this specifically.

    In Burleys system Deek would be better on the left side rather than a striker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottB View Post
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    Oh I agree, personally 4-5-1 is only useful in a backs to the wall type situation, we shouldn't be doing it in every game. But thats not really the issue for this specifically.

    In Burleys system Deek would be better on the left side rather than a striker.
    Unfortunately Burley didn't think he was good enough to play out there and instead picked a guy that he never selected for the original squad on the left!

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    As I have said before, the manager is a p!££ head that has absolutely no ferking idea.
    How can he possibly justify leaving out one of the top scorers this season along with an EPL forward to put in a non scoring forward and a championship player.
    As before -
    Burley GTF

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottB View Post
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    But as you say, Burley is playing 4-5-1, if Deek is seen as a striker, does anyone think he would be good as a lone forward in the Scotland system? I don't. Had we been playing a 4-4-2 or something and he'd been snubbed then there'd be a point to the argument.
    But he can and often has played left side of a 4-5-1. Which is where he played when he belatedly came on. Which in turns begs the key question to todays events...

    Can anyone please justify the following players and their gametime.

    Craig Conway - 75 minutes
    Derek Riordan - 15 minutes

    Utterly nonsensical. And quite anger-inducing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicheyWhite View Post
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    But he can and often has played left side of a 4-5-1. Which is where he played when he belatedly came on. Which in turns begs the key question to todays events...

    Can anyone please justify the following players and their gametime.

    Craig Conway - 75 minutes
    Derek Riordan - 15 minutes

    Utterly nonsensical. And quite anger-inducing.
    Totally agree. With the number of late replacements starting the match and Deek and Fletch stuck on the bench, it makes you wonder why they bothered to travel. Remind me again how many times Lee Miller has scored this season for Aberdeen? And how does that secure him a starting position against Fletch? And what does the SPL player of the month have to do to get in a National Team? Imagine the uproar if an English player ever managed to be player of the month in England (aye I know that is hard to imagine) and never got a start for them! And yet you get a load of ex Yams playing for Scotland. How does that work? I bet Clum will be next to play ahead of Deek.!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cammy View Post
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    All teams need a work ethic to win but without someone capable of putting the ball in the net you will win nothing.
    Beautifully demonstrated by Kenny Miller for the last few years now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbie02 View Post
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    Totally agree. With the number of late replacements starting the match and Deek and Fletch stuck on the bench, it makes you wonder why they bothered to travel. Remind me again how many times Lee Miller has scored this season for Aberdeen? And how does that secure him a starting position against Fletch? And what does the SPL player of the month have to do to get in a National Team? Imagine the uproar if an English player ever managed to be player of the month in England (aye I know that is hard to imagine) and never got a start for them! And yet you get a load of ex Yams playing for Scotland. How does that work? I bet Clum will be next to play ahead of Deek.!!!
    If Fletcher's injured and can't start that's fair enough.

    And before anyone else brings the workrate rate argument in.... Very few would see Riordan as an even semi-regular starter for Scotland, more an impact sub. Lee Miller upfront? Best of a very limited bunch to do that job in the circumstances. But Riordan didn't need to play up front, who now sees him as an out and out striker, let alone a lone one. Conway had done a job, Scotland had held their shape and kept it goalless up to half-time, there was absolutely no need to maintain that stance for 75 BLOODY MINUTES. ****ing ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicheyWhite View Post
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    If Fletcher's injured and can't start that's fair enough.

    And before anyone else brings the workrate rate argument in.... Very few would see Riordan as an even semi-regular starter for Scotland, more an impact sub. Lee Miller upfront? Best of a very limited bunch to do that job in the circumstances. But Riordan didn't need to play up front, who now sees him as an out and out striker, let alone a lone one. Conway had done a job, Scotland had held their shape and kept it goalless up to half-time, there was absolutely no need to maintain that stance for 75 BLOODY MINUTES. ****ing ridiculous.
    If Fletch is injured he shouldnae be flying all the way to Japan. Who said anything about Deek playing up front? My point was how come he is named in the original squad and yet other replacements make the starting line up ahead of him? Deek is never an impact player. He is as likely to score in the first minute as the last. Why wait until Japan have taken control of the game before bringing him on? Even if he had come on at half time with Fletch he would have seen more of the ball and maybe could have done something. As it was the Japs brought on more and more of their better players and Deek was then wasting his time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbie02 View Post
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    If Fletch is injured he shouldnae be flying all the way to Japan. Who said anything about Deek playing up front? My point was how come he is named in the original squad and yet other replacements make the starting line up ahead of him? Deek is never an impact player. He is as likely to score in the first minute as the last. Why wait until Japan have taken control of the game before bringing him on? Even if he had come on at half time with Fletch he would have seen more of the ball and maybe could have done something. As it was the Japs brought on more and more of their better players and Deek was then wasting his time.
    I know you never mentioned him playing up front, I was in rant mode It was directed to other hypothetical points.

    At national level, he won't be more than a sub. Sad but true. Today probably confirmed that. He should have been on way before he was, but against any sort of severe test he would be used in exactly the same way he was today. The frustration is that he should have been given the chance to do so much more today, but was given less minutes than any outfield player except for Darren Barr. Whose treatment was diabolical as well I might add.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicheyWhite View Post
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    I know you never mentioned him playing up front, I was in rant mode It was directed to other hypothetical points.

    At national level, he won't be more than a sub. Sad but true. Today probably confirmed that. He should have been on way before he was, but against any sort of severe test he would be used in exactly the same way he was today. The frustration is that he should have been given the chance to do so much more today, but was given less minutes than any outfield player except for Darren Barr. Whose treatment was diabolical as well I might add.
    Aye Barr was finding out what his international prospects would be if he signed for Hibs. However if he played for Hibs, did well and got a big money transfer to some second rate Championship team's reserves, his chances of playing for Scotland would increase greatly!!!

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    Ill not get into the Riordan debacle..but to start with Lee Miller (who IIRC was a late call up?) And has NO goals for Aberdeen this season ahead of your original picks (Riordan) leaves me to think that Burley has no clue OR he's a dirty Hearts barsteward.

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    The best players to pick for any international side are those who are in form. Derek Riordan is obviously in great form.

    Lee Miller on the other hand hasn't scored since Makalamby gifted him a goal at the end of last season, truly baffling.

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    You have got to give Burley credit at times though. I don't think that he has much time for Riordan but he accepts that he is more than meeting the criteria for getting an international place so he has his own credibilty to look after. He has played him like a full house a poker though. Talk him up about last chances, praise his natural ability....and then drag him to the other side of the world for twenty minutes or so when the guts of the game has gone. Knowing what a fiery character Deeks can be, no doubt he is waiting on the Monday morning papers, in anticipation of another Kris Boyd situation. Hopefully, DR can take this on the chin and go back to doing it pitch while the Scotland manager picks players who might be able to do it.

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