I remember being outraged in 1984 at the behaviour of Rapid Vienna. I thought it was disgraceful for the guy to come out after the game with his head bandaged when it was clear then, and now, that the bottle never touched him.
Yet watching the clips of the incident now, I find it remarkable that football fans could behave in such a way. They are throwing objects which could have seriously injured anyone they hit. (I'm not getting at Celtic, we were all as bad - I recall a game against Aberdeen in the late 80s when the contents of the Royal Mint seemed to rain down on the linesman covering the East at Easter Road).
You also have to add in the fact that a Celtic fan assaulted a Rapid player on the park, at the replayed match at Old Trafford. Something that had happened previously involving Parkhead supporters and fans of other clubs.
Dundee United were also physically intimidated in a European Cup (!!!!) semi final in Rome around this time - by which I mean death threats etc in the tunnell, not robust play. It seems like a different world looking back now.
Yet the likes of Galatasary still get away with this sort of thing. What do you all think?
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Thread: How Times Change - Celtic 1984
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30-09-2009 10:32 AM #1
How Times Change - Celtic 1984
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30-09-2009 10:42 AM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think I'm glad that that sort of stuff doesn't go on in Scotland these days....
IIRC the pipes and drums of the Royal Highland Fusiliers couldn't parade right round the Hampden pitch at the League Cup Final in 1972 because the Celtic support in the covered end were singing IRA songs and throwing those big old copper pennies at the police.
So the band marched across the front of the goals instead. Nobody, as I recall, thought this to be in any way unusual.
Except that the polis THEN decided that they wouldn't allow Hibs to do a lap of honour with the Cup in case the Celtic fans (who had all gone back to their smelly burrows by then) rioted. There was no suggestion that the HIBS fans had misbehaved, of course, but hey, why let a wee team's fans enjoy their victory?
I don't remember any mention being made of the coin-throwing either in the papers or on TV.
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30-09-2009 11:15 AM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Incidentally I recall being hit by coins in front of east terrace thrown from the back at an Aberdeen game as late as early 1990s though think game you are referring to was in 1984-5 (linesman and ref were truly dire in that game it has to be said and deserved it to an extent).
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30-09-2009 11:37 AM #4
Has there been as much p*sh talked about this game in the press over there as there has here? There seems to be a media based slanging match going on, with even the DR quoted in some of the local papers.
I knew as soon as the draw was made that this would be the sole topic of so called news. I did think it was quite funny though that Rapid wanted to wear their all-red strip, in memory of the '84 game .
Incidentally, if you think that tickets for Scottish games are bad, you should see the prices for Vienna leg of that tie. Sheesh!
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30-09-2009 11:44 AM #6This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
anyway, the DR and Sun are doing their damndest to try and stir things up.
Rapid are bringing 3,000 fans over, Celtic have 10,000 tickets on public sale/available to all sorts, Lots of old school dafties going, lots of normally civilised and urbane tims wanting to "stick it right up these *******s", the weekend of a huns game, with lots of Irish, mostly Belfast based Tims (not known for their restraint) making a long weekend of it - it could get quite eh interesting.
i'm also booked for Vienna in December.
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30-09-2009 11:47 AM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-09-2009 11:56 AM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
When it comes to appreciaition of musical genius, one has to rise above petty tribalism.
Having said that, I do not possess any Wet Wet Wet or Lulu material.
The "mission statement" of the Johnny Cash CSC is this "Ye gotta love two things in life to be in this club - Celtic and Johnny Cash". We meet twice a year in a eh "pub appointed in traditional Glasgow style, full of Glaswegian character", just round from the Barras.
The Braemar is a great boozer - I once went in at 10am, got offered a leg of lamb for sale, a vintage pentax camera and saw a guy getting his hair cut in the pub. Two days previous, I was sipping cocktails in the Allerton in Chicago.
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30-09-2009 11:59 AM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It was TWO.
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30-09-2009 12:03 PM #10
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30-09-2009 12:08 PM #11This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I hadn't realised there were two Celtic fans that got onto the pitch that night. Any idea what they are up to these days?
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30-09-2009 12:16 PM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-09-2009 12:36 PM #13This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As for the guy who threw the bottle at Celtic Park, no-one and I mean no-one knows anything about who it was. Normally these things get out through the grapevine, but not on this occasion. Having been involved with the Celtic Supporters Assoication, you do get to hear a lot of stories and the inside track, but all our "sources" drew a blank here.
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30-09-2009 12:43 PM #14This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You'll be happy to hear there are a number of Irish bars in Vienna (as everywhere else) but the best one, in my opinion, is Flanagan's in Schwarzenberg strasse, in the city centre.
I have a workmate here, Rapid fan, who's booked up for the game at Celtc Park. I told him that the best way to ingratiate himself with the locals was to take along a really big Union Jack. You should be able to spot him in the away end, big guy, all covered in blood......
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30-09-2009 02:32 PM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Your Glasgow bar story reminds me of the occasion I found myself in a sheeben in George Square -- I can't recall its name but it was run by the dad of a mate of mine called Kenny MacDonald, who was a right Celtc supporter. In those days George Sqaure still had a few sheebens -- alas, no longer. Anyhoo, I was approached by a right Glasgae character several stages beyond inebriation who offered to sell me a pair of trousers for £5. The offer was all the more intriguing because the trousers he had in mind were currently appended to his rather unsteady legs. I had to ask, "What will you be wearing once you hand the trousers over?" He thought about this for a moment before declaring, "You kin gie me your troosers!"
I closed our discussions by buying him a pint and wishing him all the best in latest business venture.
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01-10-2009 08:20 PM #17
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02-10-2009 08:39 AM #18
I remember the scottish cup semi against abersheep at dens (loadsabother). The hatched man Neil Cooper was injured and walked off the park up to the tunnel in the corner as he walked past the Hibs support in the enclosure it was like a wall of coins heading his way. One guy was jumping up and down waving a tenner and shouting if anyone had any change!!!
p.s.
Jack - i might be up for a half membership in the J.C.C.S.C.
More than quite partial to belting out the man in black or boy named sue (amongst others) after the odd shandy.
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02-10-2009 09:26 AM #19
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_McGarvey
If so, he's got a bit of a cheek to take the moral high ground wouldn't you say? I'm prepared to forgive him though.
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