Media coverage re McGeady incident (merged)

***Kato*** · 31-08-2009 05:50 PM

Showed the "incident" from every angle other than the one proves he's a cheat.

Weegie-media, eh. Wouldn't want to show poor wee diddums aiden out to be the sneak he is.

**Barney McGrew** · 31-08-2009 05:55 PM

Just been listening to Ewen Cameron on the Real Radio phone in and he's ripping into him.

Fair play that someone has the baws to call the cheat a cheat.

**euro Hibby** · 31-08-2009 06:19 PM

The Glasgow Herald has a short radio discussion with 3 newspaper journalists.

They say that there are dives and dives each are different according to what

the player is looking to achieve. The worst is a dive for a penalty. reading

between the lines if you do that you are a cheat. If you however dive over

in a less dangerous area then its a dive but an acceptable dive because it might not change the result of the game . One of these

great journalists even thinks that Aidens first booking was unjust and a tangle

of legs with Riordan. Opinions eh

***Aldo*** · 31-08-2009 06:24 PM

Quote in one of the papers from TM

Aiden had been tackled all day...it was the 3rd or 4th time one of their players tried to bring him down...He was just TIRED.

WTF

TM look at the DIVE from all angles and it clearly shows him DIVING.

You must take daftie tablets when you manage the OF.

McGeady cheated ENDOF

**~~Phil D. Rolls~~** · 31-08-2009 06:27 PM

Why is diving considered a worse crime than fouling someone, sometimes to their injury?

**Jumbo** · 31-08-2009 06:27 PM

Heard Jim Treanor, on Radio Scotland this morning, and fair play to him he said as far as he's concerned it was cheating and that Smeltic should come out and say as much themselves

**maturehibby** · 31-08-2009 06:27 PM

What if Hanlon had been booked - this will go on his record (unjustly in this case) but is a slight on his character and later on a few more bookings might accrue and with the totting up system he is subsequently suspended would the weegie press come out and say this was unjust ? dont hold your breath on that happening .
McGeady is a wee diving cheat as as the one on the otherside Maloney and the wee one in the middle McDonald - they must have some laundry bill for the grass and mud that is taken off their kit at the end of a game

***Part/Time Supporter*** · 31-08-2009 06:29 PM

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Just been listening to Ewen Cameron on the Real Radio phone in and he's ripping into him.

Fair play that someone has the baws to call the cheat a cheat.

and no doubt Roughy will be defending him. That's the standard Real Radio approach to any issue.

**Barney McGrew** · 31-08-2009 06:31 PM

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and no doubt Roughy will be defending him. That's the standard Real Radio approach to any issue.

How did you guess

Amazing how many of the great unwashed who are claiming Eduardo's was a dive but McGeady's wasn't. Hypocrites.

***Leithenhibby*** · 31-08-2009 06:35 PM

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Quote in one of the papers from TM

Aiden had been tackled all day...it was the 3rd or 4th time one of their players tried to bring him down...He was just TIRED.

WTF

TM look at the DIVE from all angles and it clearly shows him DIVING.

You must take daftie tablets when you manage the OF.

McGeady cheated ENDOF

When TM was at HFC I thought he was the mutts nuts, and when he moved to WBA I thought o'well, the guy has to step-up the ladder I suppose. But now that he has joined the famous, best supporters in the world his tone and attitude has taken a turn for the worst I'm afraid

Total To$$ Pot I say..

**BEEJ** · 31-08-2009 06:41 PM

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The Glasgow Herald has a short radio discussion with 3 newspaper journalists.

They say that there are dives and dives each are different according to what

the player is looking to achieve. The worst is a dive for a penalty. reading

between the lines if you do that you are a cheat. If you however dive over

in a less dangerous area then its a dive but an acceptable dive because it might not change the result of the game .

It's breath-taking how blinkered these people are in their desperation to justify the actions of an OF player.

"He was at the half-way line. He wasn't seeking to gain an advantage."

Getting an opponent booked so that he has to play the last 30 minutes of the match in two-minds whether or not to go in for a tackle is a distinct advantage! And if Hanlon had been booked already and the ref had fallen for McGeady's trickery, Hanlon would have been off!

So plenty of opportunity to 'gain advantage' there.

Nauseating double-standards from Parkhead and elements of the media.

**lyonhibs** · 31-08-2009 06:48 PM

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Showed the "incident" from every angle other than the one proves he's a cheat.

Weegie-media, eh. Wouldn't want to show poor wee diddums aiden out to be the sneak he is.

Is there any angle where - in slow motion - it isn't a blatant dive??

***H18sry*** · 31-08-2009 06:51 PM

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and no doubt Roughy will be defending him. That's the standard Real Radio approach to any issue.

No Roughy came out and called him a cheat

**iwasthere1972** · 31-08-2009 06:54 PM

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Is there any angle where - in slow motion - it isn't a blatant dive??

Aye it's commonly known as the Celtic angle.

***nonshinyfinish*** · 31-08-2009 07:13 PM

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Why is diving considered a worse crime than fouling someone, sometimes to their injury?

Because when you boot somebody up in the air, it harks back to the good old days, when men were men, sheep were worried, and these bloody fancy Dan red boots continental pooves didn't get a look in.

Jumpers for goalposts, dogs on the pitch, etc.

***Kato*** · 31-08-2009 07:14 PM

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Why is diving considered a worse crime than fouling someone, sometimes to their injury?

Is it? Who is saying that?

AM was guilty of both yesterday, DR wasn't injured but AM made sure he felt it.

For what it's worth if a Hibs player had commited AM's first foul they would have probably walked.

***matty_f*** · 31-08-2009 07:46 PM

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What if Hanlon had been booked - this will go on his record (unjustly in this case) but is a slight on his character and later on a few more bookings might accrue and with the totting up system he is subsequently suspended would the weegie press come out and say this was unjust ? dont hold your breath on that happening .
McGeady is a wee diving cheat as as the one on the otherside Maloney and the wee one in the middle McDonald - they must have some laundry bill for the grass and mud that is taken off their kit at the end of a game

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It's breath-taking how blinkered these people are in their desperation to justify the actions of an OF player.

"He was at the half-way line. He wasn't seeking to gain an advantage."

Getting an opponent booked so that he has to play the last 30 minutes of the match in two-minds whether or not to go in for a tackle is a distinct advantage! And if Hanlon had been booked already and the ref had fallen for McGeady's trickery, Hanlon would have been off!

So plenty of opportunity to 'gain advantage' there.

Nauseating double-standards from Parkhead and elements of the media.

Hanlon would certainly have received at least a yellow card for the foul, and what if Celtc had scored from the free-kick.

That he (McCheaty) got caught is the only difference between what he did and what Eduardo did, IMHO.

**Brando7** · 31-08-2009 08:02 PM

I can see the point in diving in the box to try n win a penalty but don't understand why u would do it on the half way line

There needs to be a straight red card actioned for divers imo

***matty_f*** · 31-08-2009 08:04 PM

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I can see the point in diving in the box to try n win a penalty but don't understand why u would do it on the half way line

There needs to be a straight red card actioned for divers imo

He did it because he was running the ball out of play and fancied getting Hanlon into trouble.

**hibsbollah** · 31-08-2009 08:05 PM

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He did it because he was running the ball out of play and fancied getting Hanlon into trouble.

**TheBall'sRound** · 31-08-2009 08:46 PM

Will anyone else confess to assuming that the ref was booking Hanlon and thinking "Good booking, son. Take one for the team"?

**rossi** · 31-08-2009 08:46 PM

I think he dived because there was nothing on for him and he wanted to try and take the pressure of the Celtic defence; we'd just been having a good wee spell.

**~~clerriehibs~~** · 31-08-2009 08:58 PM

If mcgeady went down looking for a foul, then he had plenty to gain from it. He hadn't been getting much change out of Hanlon, so getting Hanlon into the ref's book would mean mcgeady would have more leeway for running at him for the remainder of the game.

I reckon diving in the hope of getting an opposition player booked so's you can get an easier time of it is worse than diving and looking to get a penalty.

I'm in a pretty small minority hereabouts, but I'm not really convinced mcgready was even looking for the foul, never mind getting Hanlon booked.

**kaimendhibs** · 31-08-2009 10:28 PM

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Will anyone else confess to assuming that the ref was booking Hanlon and thinking "Good booking, son. Take one for the team"?

I sit at the back of the ff upper and me and my pal both thought it was a booking for hanlon. all credit to dougie mcdonald, none to mcgeady, mowbray and anyone else trying to protect the diving wee scrote

***HibbyAndy*** · 31-08-2009 10:34 PM

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Is it? Who is saying that?

AM was guilty of both yesterday, DR wasn't injured but AM made sure he felt it.

For what it's worth if a Hibs player had commited AM's first foul they would have probably walked.

That my friend is an absolute certainty.. watch Mcjudase's puss and that will tell you he was one lucky lucky boy to get away with a yellow.

He cheated just like Eduardo... he is no better. it accumulates to the same thing..' conning' the ref.

**(((Fergus)))** · 31-08-2009 10:35 PM

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He did it because he was running the ball out of play and fancied getting Hanlon into trouble.

Wasn't the first time he'd dribbled the ball out of play in that game.

***HibbiesandtheBaddies*** · 31-08-2009 10:49 PM

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Because when you boot somebody up in the air, it harks back to the good old days, when men were men, sheep were worried, and these bloody fancy Dan red boots continental pooves didn't get a look in.

Jumpers for goalposts, dogs on the pitch, etc.

Correct. Diving is a bit... girly.

***nonshinyfinish*** · 31-08-2009 10:50 PM

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Correct. Diving is a bit... girly.

And kicking somebody instead of winning the ball fairly is... manly?

**Sir David Gray** · 31-08-2009 10:54 PM

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I can see the point in diving in the box to try n win a penalty but don't understand why u would do it on the half way line

There needs to be a straight red card actioned for divers imo

Absolutely.

I heard Dermot Gallagher (former English referee) being interviewed on Sky Sports News earlier today and he was highlighting the unfairness of the Eduardo incident in comparison with McGeady (or anyone else who is caught by the referee).

McGeady will only serve a punishment because it was his second yellow card yesterday and he was subsequently sent off. If that dive had only been his first booking, there would have been no ban for him, because the referee noticed it and took action against him.

McGeady won't serve a suspension for diving, he will serve it because he committed two bookable offences in the same match.

However in Eduardo's case, because the referee didn't spot the dive, the authorities are able to review the incident and hand him a two match ban (or whatever it is) retrospectively.

In Eduardo's case, he WILL (probably) serve a suspension, purely for diving.

You are absolutely correct in saying that if a referee thinks a player has taken a deliberate dive, he should have the power to show that player a straight red card.

And by the way, what's with all this "simulation" carry on? It seems to me to be another case of political correctness taking hold with people being told to use a more neutral term instead of calling it like it is.

It is CHEATING.

***nonshinyfinish*** · 31-08-2009 10:58 PM

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Absolutely.

I heard Dermot Gallagher (former English referee) being interviewed on Sky Sports News earlier today and he was highlighting the unfairness of the Eduardo incident in comparison with McGeady (or anyone else who is caught by the referee).

McGeady will only serve a punishment because it was his second yellow card yesterday and he was subsequently sent off. If that dive had only been his first booking, there would have been no ban for him, because the referee noticed it and took action against him.

McGeady won't serve a suspension for diving, he will serve it because he committed two bookable offences in the same match.

However in Eduardo's case, because the referee didn't spot the dive, the authorities are able to review the incident and hand him a two match ban (or whatever it is) retrospectively.

In Eduardo's case, he WILL (probably) serve a suspension, purely for diving.

You are absolutely correct in saying that if a referee thinks a player has taken a deliberate dive, he should have the power to show that player a straight red card.

And by the way, what's with all this "simulation" carry on? It seems to me to be another case of political correctness taking hold with people being told to use a more neutral term instead of calling it like it is.

It is CHEATING.

Yes, it is.

Just like pulling a jersey is cheating, or stealing yards at a throw in is cheating.

If it was ALL just called cheating, it would be hard to distinguish, no?

So simulation is political correctness? No, it's a description of the offence. Would you describe 'ungentlemenly conduct' as political correctness?