I've never had any time for the overrated wee nyaff but I do think he has a case here.
Seems as though the beaks in the SFA never had the balls to communicate with Ferguson directly. Looks like it's not only Mad Vlad that prefers a fax machine as the favoured means of communication!
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10-08-2009 05:09 PM #1@hibs.net private member
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Barry Ferguson
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10-08-2009 05:19 PM #2Coaching Staff
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He's had about 5 months to put over his point but leaves it until the time when Scotland need to focus on their match with Norway.
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No coincidence either.
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Yep - the timing is wrong but it's his way of achieving maximum exposure for his "grievance". Originally Posted by iwasthere1972
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No coincidence either.
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10-08-2009 05:22 PM #4Promising Youngster
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I think he is spot on in what he is saying the sfa are a shambles.
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He hasn't got a leg to stand on. He disrespected his country and his role as team captian in the 1st place, then acted like a petulant schoolkid waiting for his baws to drop by flicking the V's at the cameras. If the SFA had treated him with the same contempt that he treated the honour of playing for Scotland and the responsibilty that goes with it, they would have delivered the news wrapped up in a sh** covered envelope flung through his bedroom window.
He made his bed, so he can't complain if he isn't enjoying lying it it.
Oh, and way to go to add to your defence Barry - come out with this slaver just before a vital WC qualifying game
GGTTH
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He was still treated with greater respect than he treated the Scotland shirt with. Hope Burley has a framed copy of the fax on the dressing room wall.
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He said if he could go back and change things of course he would. Fair enough. But it's not as if it was a drinking session which they may or may not have been caught up in, the fact he gestured towards the camera's shows that he doesn't give a flying f*** about Scotland. I for one am glad that he'll never play again, we're better without him.
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10-08-2009 05:34 PM #8Testimonial Due
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Originally Posted by finhq031
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Couldny give a flyin **** even if they let him know by carrier pigeon
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To be fair, it just shows the same distain for the Scottish media that we are also guilty of. However, Ferguson has only ever played for Scotland when it suited him. The incident at the hotel should have been reason enough to bin him. Originally Posted by Jevitt
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10-08-2009 05:45 PM #10
I'm glad he's personna non grata. He knows that he was out of order and to raise the issue, now, of how the SFA dealt with the situation is premeditated mischief-making. The guy's one of the lowest of the low.
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10-08-2009 05:49 PM #11First Team Regular
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Here is guy who made a complete arse himself and he's not happy at how the SFA has handled the matter.
You could not make it up.
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10-08-2009 05:51 PM #12First Team Regular
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As Irvine would say - he's Hunbelievable
2 days before vital WC game does he really think this is good for the Team ?
Without doubt a deluded Ned
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10-08-2009 05:54 PM #13Testimonial Due
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No case at all!! Originally Posted by finhq031
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The quy was, is and always will be, a grade A Tube!!
Even if you set aside his 'Loch Lomond antics' to allow this crap to be published on the eve of a critical qualification match just underlines for everyone that his only interest is the pay cheque he got for the interview!
Utterly, totally shameful!!
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10-08-2009 06:00 PM #14Testimonial Due
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Really despise the wee ned. Thought he was better than he was so I really don't give a ferk that he now feels aggrieved. Maybe if he hadn't been a to$$er in the first place.......
As for the SFA, we already know what they are like so no suprise there.
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I'm not defending Ferguson in the slightest but two wrongs don't make a right. Originally Posted by ancienthibby
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No doubt it will all come out in the wash, but the SFA should have contacted Ferguson DIRECTLY re his ban. They've opted out big time by sending the fax to Murray Park where no doubt it was viewed by others before Ferguson could see it for himself.
I also seem to recollect that something similar occured when they, (the SFA) were last interviewing for the new Scotland Manager - a total absence of protocol and professionalism it would seem.
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Originally Posted by ancienthibby
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10-08-2009 06:35 PM #17RemovedLeft by mutual consent! Originally Posted by stubru59
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10-08-2009 07:43 PM #18Coaching Staff
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Agree totally Originally Posted by iwasthere1972
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No coincidence either.
Don't have an ounce of sympathy for someone who at best is "yesterdays man "
Always thought he was better than he was .
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10-08-2009 07:54 PM #19Coaching Staff
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Can anyone remember Ferguson having a really standout game?
He's utter, utter mince.
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Other than his deserving antics, I feel for Barry Ferguson slightly. Yes, he done wrong, and his consequential actions towards the cameras probably condemned him, but consider the larger picture of indiscipline which has plagued the national side since Burley took over as coach - he has utterly no control over the players and it his lack of discipline (along with a larger social problem) which lead to "Boozegate" occurring.
Since taking over, Burley has lost Boyd (our top goalscorer) and McCulloch (a decent journeyman who always gave his all for his country) - following their departure, and the incident involving Ferguson/McGregor (not to mention a very mediocre qualifying campaign thus far), the SFA were willing to do a U-turn for McGregor, but not Ferguson - why? I agree with Walter Smith - the SFA were too quick to axe a decent national squad player, and the now reported manner in how they axed Ferguson is disgraceful.
I concede that Ferguson showed no class in the entire scandal, but I don't for one second think that this article has been published at his behest. He was probably a) Interviewed months ago, and the article held onto, or b) been interviewed recently, which again, really isn't his choosing.
The entire governing community of Scottish Football are a shower of clueless charlatans who would don't care one iota about the profile of our game, or the wellbeing of their league members. We need a radical overhaul, from top to bottom, and reducing the 3 governing bodies to one is the first step.Madness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push.
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Originally Posted by Jevitt
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Dont agree with you on this point mate.
Did he know what he was doing?imo yes he did, he was(as far as anyone knows)was willing and able to make that decsion.
Do i stay up drinking most of the night or have 1 or 2?
He CHOOSE to stay up most of the night.
The only thing he would change would be not getting caught.
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10-08-2009 08:52 PM #22
............and it's nice to know that his latest contribution will put the final nail in the coffin of any chance he might have had of getting nominated for the SFA Hall of Fame. Please don't tell me he's already there.
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Just like Polly Gwen had no control over his players. Walter Smith clearly hasn't much control over his players either, since two of them embarrassed his club so badly on international duty. A wee pattern emerging here, I wonder, around a particular player? Well rid. GTF Neddy Crab! Originally Posted by Scott M
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what the ex Rangers TV presenter had to say on Ferguson."Barry thought he was Mr Rangers. Me and him had some cracking arguments.
"He was the only one I didn't get on with. Barry's used to getting his own way but I always get what I want too and he didn't like that.
"I'd get an interview with him even if I had to wait at the club's Murray Park traing ground for two or three hours.
"I'm not intimidated by him either. Nobody tells Barry what to do and he was not happy that I wouldn't accept that. Once you cross Barry he'll never speak to you again, which is what he did to me."
"Barry had everyone wrapped round his little finger. All the younger guys were desperate to be part of his little clique. He had too much power. Rangers will be a far happier place without him."
a brat not a man imo.
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Understand what you're saying Scott but the bit I've highlighted - if b) is true, why did he not just say to the journalist "no comment" or "I don't want to talk about that, it happened months ago". Probably coz he's no the brightest. Originally Posted by Scott M
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Deserves all he gets IMO. Muppet.
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All four players you mention play for the same club. This suggest to me that the problem lies there rather than with the SFA. Originally Posted by Scott M
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This changes nothing as regards Ferguson & McGregor's pathetic behaviour - they are both banned and banned they should remain! Originally Posted by finhq031
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However - it does give an insight into the way things are run at the SFA - Fudleyson has a point in that a sensitive matter such as this should have been addressed to the individuals concerned - sending a fax to an open office for a matter such as this reeks of amatuerishness - as did the handling of the whole affair
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just heard Butcher on the radio saying that the paper had been waiting a couple of weeks to run this interview. deliberately timed. (pretty obvious anyway).
what a rat.
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I reckon he perhaps wanted to try and clear his name, or soften the impact of what happened. Reporters are always going to be sniffing around come selection time, particularly if he starts putting in good performances down south, asking him how he feels about what has transpired. He isn't the brightest (from outgoing appearances) and I reckon the journo's have probably preyed on this, trying to stir a story and drum up some noise. Originally Posted by ArabHibee
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Deserves all he gets IMO. Muppet.
I don't want to sound like his public defender here, but there are two sides to every story, and although his behaviour was a disgrace to the national side, the way he's been hounded is quite over-the-top in my opinion.
Do you think so? These players were nothing but loyal (no pun intended) in the eras which preceded the arrival or Burley - three of whom were at Rangers during the reigns of McLeish and Smith - why were there no issues at this point? I fully understand the reason for both Ferguson and McGregor being disciplined for their actions, but dear God, the witch-hunt which has followed is excessive and I still feel the decision to ban them from future gatherings is knee-jerk in the extreme (particularly in the case of McGregor - we're short in goalkeeping quality, as the current squad highlights!). Originally Posted by ballengeich
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Bear in mind there were others who were implicated in the events at Cameron House - granted, the SFA stopped at 2, but I don't believe the rest of that squad were squeaky clean.Madness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push.
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I have often wondered how things would have gone if Ferguson had played for us.
His crablike movement across the pitch and his passing ability would have been an interesting dynamic!
Imagine Ferguson knocking balls across for Deeks!
He is a very good player and can pass a ball through defences.
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