Anyone depressed about the new season already?

[noseyhibby]

Sadly, the players that served up some of the most dire performances ever at ER last season are still with us...whatsmore, they are no better than English third tier...
Yogi knows what he wants, but boy is he going to struggle for a good while with the sea of mediocrity at his disposal..and if I were him I'd be thorougly depressed at the prospect of trying to appease the Hibs supporters with the mostly talentless, honest but undeniably average players he is stuck with...
It's going to be a long haul and I expect Hibs to be scraping top 6 again...win one, draw one, lose one....I'm yawning already...and determined to keep my money in my pocket, much like last season....
Fair play to anyone that endured the gutless, inept performances of last season and has come back for more....I admire your commitment, but some of us (approaching 52 years old) can think of more effective, satisfying ways to spend Saturdays....Don't get me wrong, I still harbour thought of coming back...In the meantime, I will rely on the post match summaries of fellow Hibbies and work colleagues, and the neutral press to fathom the progress of Hibs latest manager....It will take a minor miracle for me to return to Easter Road any time soon...After growing up watching Turnbulls Tornadoes, it really is pitiful to watch the utter lack of quality that is Hibs first team...Riordan and Zemmama aside.

[surreyhibbie]

Nope, I am a Hibby and always will be. Coming home to dear old Musselburgh on the 15th, 9 hour journey, say hello to Mum then off to ER for the St Mirren game. Probably go to the Falkirk Game the following week and then the Celtic game the following Saturday(if I can get a ticket). Travel back down South on the Sunday.

Canny wait!

[iwasthere1972]

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Sadly, the players that served up some of the most dire performances ever at ER last season are still with us...whatsmore, they are no better than English third tier...
Yogi knows what he wants, but boy is he going to struggle for a good while with the sea of mediocrity at his disposal..and if I were him I'd be thorougly depressed at the prospect of trying to appease the Hibs supporters with the mostly talentless, honest but undeniably average players he is stuck with...
It's going to be a long haul and I expect Hibs to be scraping top 6 again...win one, draw one, lose one....I'm yawning already...and determined to keep my money in my pocket, much like last season....
Fair play to anyone that endured the gutless, inept performances of last season and has come back for more....I admire your commitment, but some of us (approaching 52 years old) can think of more effective, satisfying ways to spend Saturdays....Don't get me wrong, I still harbour thought of coming back...In the meantime, I will rely on the post match summaries of fellow Hibbies and work colleagues, and the neutral press to fathom the progress of Hibs latest manager....It will take a minor miracle for me to return to Easter Road any time soon...After growing up watching Turnbulls Tornadoes, it really is pitiful to watch the utter lack of quality that is Hibs first team...Riordan and Zemmama aside.

Jings I was feeling quite good earlier on but now after reading your post I don't feel very well. Even a Yam on the wind up could come up with a more positive post than yours.

It's a new season man - Who knows what the future holds. If I had that kind of attitude and only turned up for games that I thought we would win then I too would probably go AWOL.

Your post may ring true in the months to come but at least try and have some optimism for the new season. You never know you might be wanting a ticket for a cup final.

Sadly we will never see another team to match Turnbulls Tornadoes. These days are well and truly behind us but I would never turn my back on Hibs even if we have more dross than a coalmans sack.

GGTTH.

[Hibbyradge]

[Hibeescott]

I think everyone needs to be abit more realistic here!

Last seasons pre-season was awful, the performances were much, much worse than yesterday! Yet despite that we made the top 6 with a **** manager and wernt all that far behind the european places!

Yesterday we were playing against a top championship side, a team stronger than any we will face this season (maybe bar the old firm), and who are a week ahead of us in preparations for the new season and cutting out the individual mistakes their keeper had more saves to make in the match.

Huge over reaction here IMO.

[iwasthere1972]

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I think everyone needs to be abit more realistic here!

Last seasons pre-season was awful, the performances were much, much worse than yesterday! Yet despite that we made the top 6 with a **** manager and wernt all that far behind the european places!

Yesterday we were playing against a top championship side, a team stronger than any we will face this season (maybe bar the old firm), and who are a week ahead of us in preparations for the new season and cutting out the individual mistakes their keeper had more saves to make in the match.

Huge over reaction here IMO.

I think you need to consider what you're writing before you press the "submit reply" button.

[Hibeescott]

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I think you need to consider what you're writing before you press the "submit reply" button.

Ok I apologise.....I think 'some people' need to be more realistic.

[iwasthere1972]

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Ok I apologise.....I think 'some people' need to be more realistic.

[ScottB]

It's way too early to go all suicidal! I don't think we can make an accurate call on the seasons prospects before the end of August at the earliest.

In the meantime I think people are talking down the new players way too much and are already creating a myth about just how good Jones was, sure, he was a good player for us, and I liked him. But of all the players we've lost in recent years he is far, far from irreplaceable.

[zlatan]

I can't wait for football to return, I love the whole armchair fan weekend experience and watching all the live football on Saturday and Sunday.

Sadly I'm far to scunnered with Scottish football to get as excited about it's return, not renewed my ST as I just find everything about our game, from the quality on offer to the highlights show on TV, so utterly guff right now.

I'm not depressed about the season upcoming, more intrigued to see if it actually can get any worse.

[Speedway]

I do wonder why some of you guys feel there's still a need for you to follow Hibs. Your mental and spiritual well-being would be so much better nourished if you just walked away.

Anyone who wasn't expecting Saturday to turn out like it did, doesn't follow Hibs particularly closely.

We're not very much different in starting personnel than we were last season. What did you think was going to happen?

[Expecting Rain]

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While we now have a manager in place who at least understands what the fans expect of Hibs (ie a competitive team with an onus on attractive football), I'm not convinced he's in a position to achieve even that modest target. Yes Yogi talks a great game but where is the evidence he can deliver what he wants? I left Easter Road in a pretty gloomy frame of mind yesterday. I know it was a friendly but think you can read more into these games than a lot of managers admit. IMHO there was nothing there to suggest we can expect anything better than what we've endured over the last couple of seasons. The bulk of the new signings have come from a team which only avoided relegation on the last day of the season and having sold Jones, we are left with a defence which will crumble against any half decent team. That's fine if all we're looking for is another mid table finish (because let's face it the overall standard of the SPL is utter dross), but talk of a return to the Mowbray era is unrealistic. I had a season ticket last year but didn't go to a single game after Christmas. I was tempted back yesterday but will be waiting to see if I'm proved wrong before venturing back again. It's all very well to preach loyalty to your team through thick and thin, but things have been too thin for too long and I suspect I'm one of many who still can't really be ersed with it any more.

Saturday, Riordan and Zemmama apart was honking, we need a couple of better players rather than any players, i understand the strength of your feelings, unfortunately i`m addicted and too far gone not to go back to ER!

[hibees_green]

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Anyone depressed about the new season already?.

I agree with your post but I'm not depressed about it.

[Craig_in_Prague]

Yogi has been in the door 3 or 4 weeks.

He must have forgot to bring his magic wand with him.

[hibees_green]

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...We're not very much different in starting personnel than we were last season. What did you think was going to happen?

I don't think it's unfair for some to expect things have improved as the club is certainly implying it has with thier current marketing (that is being praised so highly).

The guys was being optimistic and hoped 'Something's happenning down Eater Road way'. Nothing wrong with that is there?

[blackpoolhibs]

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Yogi has been in the door 3 or 4 weeks.

He must have forgot to bring his magic wand with him.

He does not use a wand these days, he's upgraded to gold dust, sprinkle a little here, a little there and hey presto, we have a winning formula.Although i think he will have to get some more, petrie sold the last batch for a good profit, yogis been spotted at a few car boot sales trying to locate some more.

[MyJo]

Anyone who is depressed about the new season really needs to get a grip and re-evaluate what the ****** they are actually doing supporting hibs, we were absolutely god-awful last season and despite having captain fantastic and a world-class superstar striker (according to some ) in the team we scraped a top 6 finish and played hideous football at the same time.

We have got a new manager in who is promising to deliver the type of football we were all crying out to see last season, however its not going to be an instant transition and its gonna take a lot of work and time to build a capable team and get them to gel as a unit so to start writing the manager and team off after a couple of pre-season friendly defeats when we have a brand new manager and a squad with 12 new faces from last season is utterly ridiculous!

Yes, there are still some signings to be made (Right back, Centre Half, Right winger and Striker IMO) but what Yogi has done so far has been 100% correct IMO and as long as we see the team back to passing football then it'll be a massive improvement on what's been served up for the past 18 months, from that we can kick on and aim for european football and cup success but if I'm being honest I don't expect either of those to come this season anyway while yogi and the team "bed in"

[ahibby]

I used Saturday as a guage to help me decide whether or not to get a ST. I have decided not to and will pick and choose which games I go to. These pre season friendlies don't really give all that much away but I feel I saw enough to tell me that a ST is not going to be value for money, just yet. We need a CB and a tough ball winner in midfield. We lost the midfield battle and lost the game. I'd like to see us get a player who can get close to controlling midfield. I'd also like to see us get a good centre back to replace Rob Jones. I know many won't agree with me but I don't like Thicot in midfield but prefer him as a centre back. I was disappointed Yogi didn't play him there but Yogi must know something. I was surprised at Bamba playing the CB role so well in the first half and wasn't surprised in the second half when he gave away the first goal. If we get a decent CB and midfielder before the start of the season I will reconsider getting a ST otherwise it's a walk up job from time to time to see how things are progressing or otherwise.

[Craig_in_Prague]

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He does not use a wand these days, he's upgraded to gold dust, sprinkle a little here, a little there and hey presto, we have a winning formula.Although i think he will have to get some more, petrie sold the last batch for a good profit, yogis been spotted at a few car boot sales trying to locate some more.

Football that doesn't give us a stiff neck, is an improvement on last season, when I never felt so depressed about Hibs in all my life (massive 29 years),
seriously, let's all get behind Yogi & the players.
I'm not an optimist but think we're in for a good season ..... and football that won't make our eye's bleed.

See you at ER on 15th to roar on the side

[blackpoolhibs]

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Football that doesn't give us a stiff neck, is an improvement on last season, when I never felt so depressed about Hibs in all my life (massive 29 years),
seriously, let's all get behind Yogi & the players.
I'm not an optimist but think we're in for a good season ..... and football that won't make our eye's bleed.

See you at ER on 15th to roar on the side

I'm not so confident as you craig, yes hopefully the football will be better, although for that to happen, we do need better players. The side that finished 6th last season has been weakened, although with a manager in now who should be tactically better, it should make for better chances of decent results and better play. This will only happen though, if yogi is allowed to bring in more players, and get rid of more dross. 2 full backs, a central defender,a right sided midfielder and a centre forward are urgently needed, if not, then its another mediocre fight for top 6 football imho. I'm sure we will bring in more players, but they have to be better than what we currently have, no more journeymen please, we need players who will be 1st names on the team sheet.

[mim]

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I think everyone needs to be abit more realistic here!

Last seasons pre-season was awful, the performances were much, much worse than yesterday! Yet despite that we made the top 6 with a **** manager and wernt all that far behind the european places!

Yesterday we were playing against a top championship side, a team stronger than any we will face this season (maybe bar the old firm), and who are a week ahead of us in preparations for the new season and cutting out the individual mistakes their keeper had more saves to make in the match.

Huge over reaction here IMO.

Good post. That sums up my view exactly.

[sleeping giant]

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I think everyone needs to be abit more realistic here!

Last seasons pre-season was awful, the performances were much, much worse than yesterday! Yet despite that we made the top 6 with a **** manager and wernt all that far behind the european places!

Yesterday we were playing against a top championship side, a team stronger than any we will face this season (maybe bar the old firm), and who are a week ahead of us in preparations for the new season and cutting out the individual mistakes their keeper had more saves to make in the match.

Huge over reaction here IMO.

Ahhh. Sanity

[Craig_in_Prague]

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I'm not so confident as you craig, yes hopefully the football will be better, although for that to happen, we do need better players. The side that finished 6th last season has been weakened, although with a manager in now who should be tactically better, it should make for better chances of decent results and better play. This will only happen though, if yogi is allowed to bring in more players, and get rid of more dross. 2 full backs, a central defender,a right sided midfielder and a centre forward are urgently needed, if not, then its another mediocre fight for top 6 football imho. I'm sure we will bring in more players, but they have to be better than what we currently have, no more journeymen please, we need players who will be 1st names on the team sheet.

I totally agree 2-3 more players are needed (for a good season), and I am very sure that Yogi knows this. He'll be trying his hardest to bring in quality players, I have no doubts.
The window aint shut yet, so we shouldn't think the players in place now are all we'll have. There is always movement at the end of the transfer window... and Yogi has made it clear he wants (and expects) players moving in & out.

Sure, we might not achieve 3rd, reach/win cup finals, dominate newspapers for sexy football - but so long as we leave matches knowing the team have resembled a football team, played some good stuff, no glaring tactical mistakes, the players have gave 100% - Then we'll be able to look forward to the next game and not feel like that (like last season, no matter the score).

Yogi is not niave and he knows he needs more time to change the team. He'll need at least 1 or 2 more transfer windows. But he knows what we want, and so long as we see progress and a team to somewhat enjoy, then it's a good start.

[hibsbollah]

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Anyone who is depressed about the new season really needs to get a grip and re-evaluate what the ****** they are actually doing supporting hibs

[RIP]

I've followed Hibs since I was four and in most of these years we have been a mid-table club.

Still support Hibs though

I sympathise with younger fans though. Scottish Football is fairly poverty-stricken right now - in footballing as well as financial terms. The gap between English and Scottish Football has widened. At the moment I'd rate the Old Firm with the lower end of the Premiership.

Hearts, Aberdeen, United and us on a good day are probably comparable with a mid-table Championship side or a top League 1 side but they pay higher wages. If they now have our best players it's hardly surprising when they beat us.

Let's face it Preston are a better side so why we are warming up our season with aways to Blackburn and Bolton is anyone's guess

[johnrebus]

Am looking forward to the new season, but with some reservations.

Pre-season seems to be dragging on and on. I can't wait for things to begin in earnest.

Yogi seems to be saying all the right things, and has already cleared out much of the dead wood, but I just hope he now realises what we have known for some time;

1. Bamba is not a central defender
2. DVZ is not good enough.
3. McCormack is a centre half - either play him there or get rid.

I do not believe that Petrie will sanction any transfer fees, so anyone who comes in will be on a free, with the usual risks that entails. Yogi has a good reputation for pulling off loan deals with spetacular results eg. Stokes, so that is probably the best we can hope for.

Collins had the right idea on how the game should be played, but could not spot a player. Mixu could spot a player, but wanted to play hoofball.

We already know that Yogi knows the type of footie he wants, I just hope he can find the players to do it.

Being a Hibs supporter is about being on a rollercoaster. After last season, I'll be happy with more ups than downs.

[smurf]

Our squad is weaker than last season. The board have to back their managerial appointment with some reinvestment of the 3.5 Million taken in thus far this summer.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Our squad is weaker than last season. The board have to back their managerial appointment with some reinvestment of the 3.5 Million taken in thus far this summer.

Spot on, otherwise yogi is working with one hand tied behind his back, and those waiting in the wings for him to fail, can jump right in with the i told you he would bull****.

[smurf]

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Spot on, otherwise yogi is working with one hand tied behind his back, and those waiting in the wings for him to fail, can jump right in with the i told you he would bull****.

I'd just like to ask Rod Petrie one question.

"Do you think it is reasonable to expect a team with weaker resources than the previous year to achieve more than the previous year?".

[Mag7]

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I do wonder why some of you guys feel there's still a need for you to follow Hibs. Your mental and spiritual well-being would be so much better nourished if you just walked away.

Anyone who wasn't expecting Saturday to turn out like it did, doesn't follow Hibs particularly closely.

We're not very much different in starting personnel than we were last season. What did you think was going to happen?

It's a fair point and it's a course of action I have often considered. Why, in fact, do we, and fans of every other club outwith the Old Firm, bother supporting a club that has no chance of winning the league it plays in? It's really just a recipe for lifelong frustration and disappointment with the odd high point thrown in here and there. Is it really worth all the effort?