I don't think he's talking nonsense and have seen it numerous times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
I often wonder what you make of the opinions and views on the other well known Hibs fans forum which are a bit more straight talking.
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I don't think he's talking nonsense and have seen it numerous times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
I often wonder what you make of the opinions and views on the other well known Hibs fans forum which are a bit more straight talking.
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Originally Posted by Allez Hibs
Make your mind up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Hibs
About?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Give me peace. You're boring everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Hibs
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Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
I don’t think anyone is paying a fee for Leigh.
More likely that Celtc will look to cut him a deal to get him off their books. But of course it all depends on the new manager and their plans.
Yeah I wonder if that will change with the new regime..Saying that we can comfort ourselves with the relative failure of those who they have apparently pinched so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Hibs
Ive tried to think would I be bothered if either of them didnt have the links to the club they have had. Brown really wouldnt bother me, yes hes been great for Celtic but hes unproven as coach & who knows how he will fair in a team that doesnt have the talent cetic do. Leigh I still think could offer something but as Ive said I just think its too much of a gamble.
I'd be amazed and somewhat disappointed if Griffiths was leaving Celtic and Jack Ross is not monitoring the situation. Leigh is well known to be Hibs daft and is an undoubted talent if something of a maverick genius. It may be of course that the financial aspect is prohibitive. Aberdeen have supposedly got bigger finances in place and they are DESPERATE for goals so have much more incentive to push the boat out than Hibs. If Hibs had a bottomess pit of cash then signing Griffiths certainly would be a no brainer though - we don't however, but we do have a different owner in Ron Gordon who does not seem as uber-cautious as the Farmer-Petrie regime we got so used to over the years. So I would not write off the possibility of Hibs making a move - although we clearly face stern competition for Leigh's signature in Aberdeen.
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Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
2012 for us he got 20+ league goals, and has done it once for Celtc, 2015/6.
The "hes a 20 goal a season striker" is complete crap from people who havent got a clue.
There’s something about that typo that makes me feel a bit nauseous.
It’s ****ing Leigh :grr:
It’s probably the best way to look at it but I reckon I’d have loved both of them at Hibs now even if they hadn’t played for us before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalianwanda
Brown will be an improvement on Aberdeen’s current midfield and would be an improvement on ours as well, albeit not necessarily long term. Would Newell, Gogic or Irvine have got so many minutes at Celtic this season? Not a chance.
Griffiths is potentially one of the best strikers in the league and he’d certainly the best outside the OF imo.
He scored 20 in 2014/2015 and 40 in 2015/2016 at Celtic.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Missing out a season where he scored 20 and also not pointing out that the seasons you didn’t miss he scored 28 and 40, so much, much more than 20 is doing him a slight disservice imo.
His rate of scoring at Celtic gave him a goal every 2.08 games. If you could keep him fit, which is of course a big if, then that kind of rate clears 20 every season.
Aberdeen have a lot of players out of contract in the summer which obviously will help with their wage bill, but I wonder if their finances are so much better than us now. Probably had to pay off DM and have had less income than us from season ticket sales + our (hopefully) higher league position and all that it could bring.
I’d be very disappointed if we don’t bring LG back over Aberdeen, although I guess a lot depends on what happens with Nisbet. I can’t see us keeping him, Doidge and then bringing in LG.
Id agree with you, a fit motivated Leigh would be a no brainer...Id still have him as the best striker in the league when given a chance. I. just feel its potentially too big a financial gamble (without knowing what Celtic would want or Leigh would accept). Who knows maybe we have made enquiries, we tend to be a bit more secretive & Aberdeen will be doing anything they can to try & win over disgruntled season ticket holders.Quote:
Originally Posted by calumhibee1
While signing Leigh would certainly drum up some excitement this strategy is what I would like to see us continue with rather than forking out big money on potentially damaged goods with little to no resale value.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalianwanda
Either way I am confident JR and the board will be able to take the emotion out of it and make the right call.
My first reaction would be to bring him back with no hesitation whatsoever. He's capabale of scoring goals that nobody in our current squad can match.
However, if it was a case of a choice between signing Leigh & keeping Nisbet (for example), it becomes far less clear cut.
Mair chance of Terry Griffiths doing a snooker exhibition in Aberdeen
....... just as I think Griffiths will make his decision based on £££ and not on what Hibs supporters or he himself would favour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey_1875
My opinion is that signing Leigh is a big gamble for anyone and an expensive one at that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
The chance of him successfully completing a likely contract is low. If Celtic are willing to dump him and a whole load of money, are they crazy? I suspect people are buying the old Leigh rather than the current version.
I would rather spend the money elsewhere and on more players than gambling on one. Let Aberdeen take the risk if indeed that story is real. I find it unlikely given their wider issues.
Wind your neck in. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by calumhibee1
I am well aware of his overall scoring record in those seasons - the question posed related to league goals which is what I answered.
Don't see any reason for Celtic to let him go cheaply however there are probably only a very few clubs in Scotland who would be an option. Interesting to see how it works out however think he will see out his final year at Celtic and try and impress their new manager.
Sure, I was imagining a signing on fee for the player and investment in wages. No one will give Celtic money as a transfer fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
With respect, you could have just posted that initially as its a sensible post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Might have prevented another thread from being side tracked for a bit and even also have encouraged more people to get involved.
Concensus appears we would take him with the acknowledged asterisk attached.
Unless Aberdeen were prepared to pay well over the odds for Leigh/Lee/Lou, there's no possibility that they'd "pip us" to his signature, if we wanted him, imo.
If he does go elsewhere in Scotland, it'll tell me that we didn't want him and I'll be happy enough to accept that we had our reasons. (Have I got those tenses right?)
The romantic in me would like to think that he'd get such a mental boost from being back at the team he supports, that he'd put his troubles behind him, and we'd get a couple of prolific seasons out of him.
The realist in me recognises that fairy tales like that rarely come true.
You asked me to explain, so I tried to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Surprised you find my post offensive.
Sorry about that, thought you were more thick skinned. I'll bear it in mind for future.
I was responding to a different question (ie. "So what?"). You're the one that went off on a tangent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Hibs
If you don't want crap on .net, I suggest you stop stirring it.
Just try not to accuse me of things that I don't do, that'll be enough thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
Headline: Why it may be best for all parties if Celtic and Leigh Griffiths part ways amid Aberdeen linkQuote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
You’ve got to subscribe to read the article. Has anybody read it?
If it was the Leigh from 2016/17 I would say push the boat out, pay as much as he wants and get him into Hibs squad for next year. The thing is, it isn't the Leigh from then, it is Leigh 2021, who has played in 31 games and scored 6 goals. The last time he scored 20+ in a season was 2016/17, his record since then has been, for a Celtc striker (ie the striker getting the best service in the league) is pretty terrible.
2017/18 - Played 40 Scored 11
2018/19 - Played 20 Scored 4
2019/20 - Played 38 Scored 12
2020/21 - Played 31 Scored 6
These are figures for all games including European games. I think most strikers have purple patches in their careers, Leigh's was 2012 through to 2017, he scored 130 in 4 seasons. Like almost all strikers he will lose that touch or a wee bit of pace and that can make a huge difference to a player and it has shown in his recent seasons. Aberdeen might be a good move for Leigh, but I don't think it would be a good move for Hibs to try and get him again, he is 30, he is not getting any younger or fitter, he will not get that bit of pace or that touch back, I would go so far as to say he will never score 20 goals in a season again at this level. Leigh also doesn't fit our current 'philosophy' as laid out by RG. We are looking to youth, we should be ready to welcome our development players back in preseason to see if any are ready for the step up. We have a great young striker in Nisbet and some real prospects coming through the youth system. Sentimentally I would love to see him back in a Hibs strip but my head says otherwise.
I think we could all have a go at writing the article and get close to what it says.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Frees up money for the club to use on s younger player.
Gives Griffiths the opportunity to be at the top of the pecking order elsewhere.