I think we are in an era of super tall goalies. Goram slightly small in his day. Now very small for a goalie. MCneil made a great save in LC final off a Naismith header at 0-0.
Ronnie Simpson only 5 foot 10.
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Hey I totally agree he made them better players. All I said was that he was lucky to inherit a bunch of good young players. I followed it up by saying he also built a great team and he is one of my favorite managers. Iv honestly no idea why anyone would take exception to that. This place is absolutely bonkers at times :agree:
I remember walking away from that 1st league game and being so excited for what was to follow, despite getting beat off Kilmarnock. The brand of football was a joy to watch, night and day from what we had come from the season before.
Do you think development stops as soon as you reach the first team?
In terms of inheriting them maybe he was lucky, although I'm pretty sure they're also lucky that he was put in charge - otherwise they might have wound up being swapped for Bobby Mann or totally wasted under a rubbish coach.
Mowbray was appointed because of the talent coming through, he didn't just turn up and find them in a lucky bag.
I've just described what I meant above. Not looking for an argument at all.
There's little luck involved in appointing someone intentionally to guide the young talent we have.
Mowbray was hired for a purpose. It simply isn't a case that any manager would've got the same out of those guys.
No, I have already said he made them better players. But they were all good players anyway, who had already played a lot of first team football.
Mowbray was a punt. The guy had never managed before, he was only a first team coach. I think you are giving Petrie etc way too much credit if you think this was some masterplan for Mowbray in particular to come in and develop our young players.
Mowbray's derby record wasn't as bad as made out. He won 3, drew 2 and lost 4. The big sticking point is the goals tally: 11 scored and 19 conceded (three heavy defeats), which taint the record somewhat. There's also that semi final.
If my memory serves me right, Mowbrays first league game was a 1 nil defeat at home to Kilmarnock yet the team were applauded off the park as we could see that team had given 100%, did everything but score and we sensed we might be onto something good. Can you imagine how a similar result against Killie would go down now ......
Did he even have a reputation for working with youngsters? As far as I'm aware his only manager experience was as First Team coach at Ipswich. Iv also just read the interview when he signed and he didnt even mention youngsters. I think its more likely the Horde is just talking nonsense.
My opinion is nonsense because you don't like it?
Are you still firmly pro Hecky by any chance? I was talking nonsense when I had doubts about him away back in March as well..
He maybe didn't say it in his interview, but maybe he's the kind of guy who does his talking on the pitch.. or is that too farfetched?
That was an unbelievable save. The way he adjusted his feet to get up to it was absolutely top class.
Another save that always sticks in my mind was by Simon Brown in the 0-3 cup game at Ibrox. Bob Malcolm hit an absolute peach of a shot from just outside the box that was headed straight for the top corner. Brown shifted his not inconsiderable weight from one foot to the other and at full length got a strong hand to it to touch it onto the bar. Had that went in it was a different game altogether.
Mowbray was a good manager but also fortunate in the sense he came in just as the Golden Generation were breaking through.
The football was absolutely amazing to watch.