Hibs will vote on what’s best for Hibs. And if losing a good number of season ticket holders by voting to keep them up is a result, then it’s a no brainier to vote them down.
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I applaud you being able to be more objective and less emotional than me about this topic, I do. Moreover, to answer your last question we would all be livid if this were the case (however I am sure we would be able to see who is really to blame for the relegation moreso than the walking deluded over the road).
However, I will give you this angle. Would you still support Hibs voting for reconstruction when you know the detrimental effect this would have on our club as a whole. Think about it. If we vote them to stay up and it actually happens, they would be in a FAR better position than us. They would be bouyant, jubilant and riding the crest of a wave. We on the other hand would be in dissary, season books not renewed, protests to get the board out. The full works.
If you dont think this would happen, then you are sorely mistaken. If you would vote for that, you would be voting for them and against Hibs. Makes literally NO sense.
I agree. I dont think she is actually saying which whay she will vote. She just says there are still loads of discussions to be had. Well we have another 3 days to discuss for now and i think she will ask for that to be extended. We are financially safe so its less of an issue for Hibs.
Thanks for the sample poll and feedback, fantastic insight - genuinely appreciate all of them, very helpful. It is always difficult to represent every view and I would never state we (the collective) are X or Y exclusively. The aim of the role is there is a “supporter voice” on the Board and I’ll pass these comments on as verbatim/as is.
I don’t want to give a politician answer about making decisions remembering the legal and financial responsibilities to the club, I want to give more than that - Hibs will do what is right thing to do and what is right for us (club and support). I’ve not seen anything that would make me doubt they would.
Still a long way to go - this week isn’t the end game on this, still too many moving parts. The club taking the lead to ask for clarity, understand all specifics and call for purposeful conversations to make big decisions is sensible but doesn’t nail their colours to any decision.
We need to finish the season imo. I realise that isn't an option in the poll but I don't think it's fair to relegate, award European places etc with 24 points left. League reconstruction is necessary but it needs to be discussed thoroughly and planned out so I don't want to see it now.
I'm not sure what is says about football if we just abandon as season because we're so focused on the next one. For me it adds a huge question mark to next year as well. Coronavirus is not going away, we're going to have further outbreaks later so I'm not sure how much to invest in football if it can just drop a season. And what is happening with the Scottish Cup?
I don't think all efforts are being made to finish the season and one thing I'd like us to look at it's summer football which I haven't really seen mentioned.
Inherently I just don't think it's fair. And we should be careful what we wish for as these things can come back to bite you.
Will this be the ultimate Hibsed It moment? Vote to play on, get zero points in the remaining games and end up getting relegated. Ha.
Finishing the season is the best option. Its also not happening. Voiding the league isnt an option. This is the only option.
Hibs cannot use the financial hit without Hearts as an excuse. We are currently due one home derby next season before the split. If we are in opposite sides of the split then we have 1 home derby. If they restructure the league we still potentially have 1 home derby. They need to weigh up the cost of disillusioned season ticket holders who wouldnt renew vs 1 home game v hearts.
Why are people still saying this. It's not an option. 950 people died yesterday FFS! The Guardian projects that the peak will be in 2/3 weeks and 2-3k could die in this county in one day.
The options are simple. Null and Void or Call. it has to be Call. After this the vote is simple - reconstruct or not.
If Hibs vote for reconstruction for one season out of 'fairness' to Hearts, our club will be in deep deep water without armbands.
I hope we vote for what’s best for Hibs. Couldn’t give a flying one about Hearts.
Remember last time we were at our weakest?
Mercer tried to buy us and kill us.
As it is very doubtful that fitba will return any time soon, all decisions are a bit hypothetical for now, as it stands the league should be finished with present positions taken as final. Hertz go down.
Re-construction could be talked about next year when things are clearer and then if change is to happen bring it in for season 2021/22
If Hibs vote as suggested (and no one really knows for sure yet) then I would not buy a season ticket. I am a fickle Hibs supporter but that is my right.
I pays my money and I make my choice.
I think LD offers a very good analysis of the situation in the article. She is not in any way advocating a vote to save Hearts - they only merit a brief mention in the article and are insignificant in the grand scheme of things. The driving point of the article is that a final decision should not be made yet because in her opinion (and that of many others it would seem) there is still a chance that the season could be completed. The table as it stands shows that Hibs have a good chance of moving up a place in the table bringing in some extra funds - third and fourth is probably out of reach. There is also still a strong possibility that Hearts would go down if the season was completed and even if they stay up they would retain their disaster of a manager and we would get money-spinning derbies next season. LD has to consider the financial impact of her vote above other considerations and right now Hibs are in a better financial position than most other clubs to sustain a delayed decision.
After 'null and void' I think a panicked restructure of the leagues is the worst decision we could make, but there is a strong possibility that some clubs will have to close down if this emergency continues much longer, and that means restructuring would be inevitable and Hearts would probably be saved from the drop anyway - again though, Hearts do not and should not matter in the decision making process for Hibs. Ron's line "a quick decision is sometimes a bad decision" is absolutely pertinent here. If there is any possibility of deciding the final league positions on the field we must do so. Only when that becomes unviable should a final decision be made on how to proceed. That point is becoming closer by the day and I suspect when it arises LD would vote to accept the positions as they stand.
Cool heads are essential at this time and to those threatening to shun the club because they disagree with LD's opinion I would say drop the drama queen frock and read what LD sayswith a cool headrather than what you think she's said.
I'm one of these weirdos who supports Hibs more than I dislike Hearts so I wouldn't be losing confidence in a fantastic CEO because she acts in the best interest of Hibernian.
Relegate them, unite the support. Put a team on the park and get 18k hibs every week. No loss of revenue from them being away
We would possibly play them in league cup group stages / cup anyway.
I’m sure I read they plan to play the Scottish Cup semi finals also ?!
How will prize money be split from that ?
You keep saying that Hibs should vote on the option that is best for Hibs and have called outall those who would be apoplectic if Hibs vote to save Hearts. That is going to mean to reconstruct or not.
-Finishing the season is not an option.
-Null and Void has already been ruled out.
That leaves Calling the season. LD will vote for this afterwhich the subject of reconstruction will be put on the table. LD alluded in her interview that she would be open to 'creative alternatives.' i.e reconstruction.
This is going to be the crucial vote and one which will have to be made in the best interests of Hibs. At this stage, what decision do you think would be in the best interests of Hibs?
If the government advice is another 13 weeks of disruption, then it's hard to see how this season can be completed without compromising the next campaign.
But why say the Premiership is "more complicated" when it's not?
Distribute the bulk of the remaining end-of-season cash now and say a vote will be taken when it becomes clear there is no prospect of any more play. I don't see the big rush.