The absolute king of music. No one will ever better what he did. Legend.
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The absolute king of music. No one will ever better what he did. Legend.
Only started to listen to him over the last few years and he was the best of his generation. :agree:
Nah, not for me. Too many piss poor songs on every album, he did have some fantastic ones too, but for me he's a very good artist, but way over hyped. :wink:
For me Hunky Dory, Ziggy and Aladdin Sane were immense, perfect for the time. After that good and meh!Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
His Lords prayer at the Freddie Mercury concert was one of the most cringeworthy things I've ever seen.
Mick Ronson taken far too soon.
Agreed. His greatest hits reel is excellent but there's a lot of self indulgent crap in his back catalogue. I do love how he stayed fresh and re-invented himself though and I regret never seeing live. A great artist and showman, yes. King of music? Sorry but he doesn't come close to Prince for that accolade.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
saved me writing the same 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
Christ, another thread I don’t remember starting. At least this ones better than the one on the main board.:embarrass
Prince as great, but wouldn’t get into the top 10 conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
All very subjective and without a definition hard to pin the accolade to one artist. Prince for me wins it due to his skills on many different instruments. The guy was not just a top entertainer, he was a musical genius.....and a top ****ger! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
I love Prince, he was pretty unique in what he did and was also a great song writer. As you say it’s all subjective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
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Originally Posted by lord bunberry
He’s no Paul Weller! 😀Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
Depends who you are talking to I suppose. Like all art and entertainment its all personal therefor there are no right answers, no metrics that prove anything. It's just down to personal taste. There's a caveat. Anyone supporting Hearts is clearly a moron.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
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You're a Queen fan, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
I like how this has turned into a ‘hes not very good’ thread.
I love Bowie. Favourite song currently? Wild is the Wind.
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Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Are you sure?
:dunno:
I thought it was just some people posting that he was OK, but not necessarily the best
Yip, they have never written a bad song. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
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Originally Posted by O'Rourke3
Totally agree. Leading up to the Millennium there was a gold rush for journos to list their favourite albums (or whatever) and the fashion for quantifying stuff has never abated. The idea the album format is the be all and end all when it comes to music also get's my goat. Most of those "5 star" albums bummed up in the press turn out to be gash.
I sometimes read a list of someone's "Top Ten Ever" and think wtf!! - that's maybe the persons favourites but in no way can it ever qualify as an objective list of great music, so then I think "each to their own".
I love about 6 or 7 albums by Bowie and at the same time there's quite a few I wouldn't give earspace ever again (looking at you, Tin Machine). The cultural impact of his singles far outweigh his long form output for all but a few.
My favourite music is whatever I am listening to and enjoying at the time.
From the first post we’ve gone from the OP calling him ‘the absolute king of music’ to him being then described as ‘Cringeworthy’ , pish poor’ , ‘self indulgent crap’Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Yes, I’m sure :greengrin
Apart from the first one, no one described him as any of those things.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Him, personally, No. Individual songs, Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
You must admit it’s not the normal arc for a thread.
Mmm, not for a music thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
"I think Showaddywaddy (or whoever) are the best ever".
"Naw they urnae, thur pish"
Happens all the time.
I ****ing love Bowie, but I could easily use all of those phrases to describe parts of his work and career. Apart from a period in the 80s (his Phil Collins years, as he described them) he tended to be pretty daring for a mainstream pop star which inevitably did result in cringeworthy, pish poor self-indulgent crap. However, the best stuff he produced was some of the greatest pop music ever made - and he had pretty consistent periods of being at the top of his game.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Agree with every word. I described his "lords prayer" as cringeworthy and stick by that.Quote:
Originally Posted by G15 Hibs
The moment when he bursts into chorus in “Life On Mars” is the greatest moment in music history.
Really sorry to hijack the thread but the greatest moment in music history is Peter Gabriel singing the word "Jerusalem" the last word of "Suppers ready"Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Maybe need another thread?
It is pretty good, but I've always been impressed by Michael Jackson (and I'm not a fan) singing "change" right on the key change in Man in the Mirror. Clever stuff!Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Nope, I'm sorry, I've checked and it's defo when he goes into the chorus on Life on Mars. I'd love to change it, but it's just a scientific fact.
I don't make the rules.
Haha fair enough, let's agree the 60'/70's were scientifically proven to be the greatest musical decades 😄👍🏻Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Now duck!!! 😄
I've checked and it wasn't, it was the nineties. Apart from Oasis, they were *****.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby
Again, I don't make the rules, science does so if you don't agree with that then you're an anti-vaxxer and anti-climate change.
Only flat earthers believe it was the nineties, although it's a proven fact that Liam Gallagher is a dick!Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Speaking of Oasis...
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If she started singing she'd burst his eardrums. She's a screamer 😀Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
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Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Actually, you're right
:greengrin
Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
I don’t actually dispute that a few of Bowie songs could be described as self indulgent or crap, (the laughing gnome sucks the root as far as I’m concerned) but same goes for every artist Lennon, Marley, Dylan all wrote stinkers. It’s part of the creative process so almost passes without comment for me.
A middle aged man performing songs written for Adele in front of a massive sign that reads "Rock n' Roll". Who's he trying to kid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby
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Originally Posted by Frazerbob
The greatest moment in pop history is the transition from the title song into Little Red Corvette on Prince's 1999 album.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
The greatest Bowie moment is when the "it's not the side effects of the cocaine" section on the Station to Station song kicks in.
Well known facts.
Under pressure.
Bowie and Queen together what more would you need?
Bowie deserves genius status for this track alone. He did also produce some right old tosh though. :greengrin
https://youtu.be/zGcLw_bkh9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJSv...hannel=isolar7
Maybe my favorite Bowie song, he did do some great singles. :thumbsup:
Just checked in my big book of sciencey facts by scientists and Queen are pish.Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyDave
Sorry.
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Originally Posted by Northernhibee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnGa...44430&index=16Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
No, I've double checked and Queen are defo pish. Came from the same people who told me that Morrissey was a bit of a knob.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
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Originally Posted by Northernhibee
But your comment about Morrissey is true. :greengrin
I’m really into my music and was so fortunate to start going to gigs as a young teenager during early days of punk/new wave. Prior to that I was into Slade and Bowie.
I mind buying a cassette (Young Americans) from a strange wee 2nd hand shop opposite my school (Leithy). The tape reeked of fags and perfume which added to the vibe and I played it endlessly. For some reason his song ‘Changes’ on Hunky Dory really got its hooks into me . I still like it but when I was 14 it was the best song ever. I also mind the day soon after, when Bowie tickets arrived for the Glasgow Apollo gig in 1978. Excited beyond belief and when the gig happened and Bowie waked on stage it was unbelievable.The musical equivalent of seeing another David lifting the Scottish Cup
There was always something extra special about Bowie though. Can’t explain but to this day his music and the overall aura is the best for me Can’t stand the glass spider period though but he had to deviate into commercial pop in order to raise a few quid at that time. The fact he can even do this is pretty impressive.
Before lockdown I was in Brixton a lot. Used to walk past Bowie’s house on the way to work and always gave me a boost. I think his music and attitude will forever continue to inspire new bands and that’s the best accolade really.
Love it :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Music is very subjective. I liked Bowie, a lot of music is about expressing yourself and Bowie certainly did that. But each to their own. I liked most of his stuff and don't really care if other people didn't. Even my favourite artists I didnt like every track they ever produced.
Station to Station is my favourite Bowie album. Every song is beautiful.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Bowie was amazing but the Beatles were superlative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eanMXOq4nYQ
https://youtu.be/sJB24LVx6fw
https://youtu.be/sJB24LVx6fw
just stop music now. This will never be bettered.
I’ll never see him live and I can’t tell you how much that annoys me. **** **** **** **** **** in hell.
From Hunky Dory to Station to Station, excellent vocalist and performer, never thought he was a great lyricist, after that bits and pieces, some reminders of how good he really was.
Bowie is great certainly up there.
But that Glastonbury performance seems to have been elevated to some magical live performance not sure about that.
I agree with lord bunberry that it is absolutely justified as a masterful festival performance. Even a song like Starman which wouldn’t normally be in my top ten Bowie songs was joyful. I’ve watched it a few times, usually late at the end of a good night.Quote:
Originally Posted by patch1875
If it's any consolation..... I waited 25 years to see him live. And it was awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
It was billed as a Farewell Tour, so he sang all the hits. The trouble was, it was with that ****ing Tin Machine, who just didn't have the touch for those songs. It also exposed a lot of the weaknesses in his singing, sadly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qrOvBuWJ-c
Sounds superb live in this video. Genius that was Bowie.
One of my biggest regrets looking back, was turning down tickets for his gig in Glasgow cos I couldn't work out how I'd get there and back . Heroes tour too. What a d/€£. Closest I got was being in Comely Bank when he played Murrayfield on the Glass Spider Tour...
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It’s not just about the music, it’s about his presence on the stage and his interaction with the audience. The music takes care of itself, but it needs a performance to elevate it to something special. Bowie gave that performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
There’s been many artists throughout history that have been considered legends, but no one was more innovative than Bowie. From ziggy to collaborating with the chemical brothers, he never stopped adapting and producing great music.
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Originally Posted by Block
His live aid performance of Heroes is my favourite.:aok:
Live Aid is one of my all time ever favorite music events. Simply of its time and magical.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
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It was definitely of it’s time, but there was many all time greatest performances that came from that gig. It was one of those magical events that will never be repeated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Block
He is really playing that piano.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
I realise we’re diverging from the point of this thread and the fact that I started it is not lost on me, but that Queen performance at live aid was spectacular. I remember live aid and at that time there was practically nothing live on the tv and then that happened, I remember donating my pocket money to the cause because everyone got sucked into it. The 80s were tough, but even then everyone got behind what they were trying to do. Bob Geldof achieved something that no politician has ever managed. A great time for humanity albeit a brief interlude.
Live Aid is up there alongside Woodstock.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
it was the most amazing spectacle to watch unfold.
I bought the full DVD for 20 quid a number of years ago.
You should be able to buy it on Ebay if you wanted to watch it back again as I have.