Strong rumour that Griffiths is in talks with sheep about a move there
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Strong rumour that Griffiths is in talks with sheep about a move there
[QUOTE=HIBEETILLIDIE;6512502]Lee Gryfuths in tocks with Eburdeen.
Fixed that for you.
Stronger than the strong rumours last week?
😂😂
Whose this Lee Griffiths?
Quite close to Dundee I suppose.
Have Celtc accepted a bid?
If we aren’t in there enquiring if his agent is doing the rounds there is something wrong. Griffiths should be number one target if he is looking to get out of celtic.
It's Leigh
He might have to wait a long time for a through pass from McGeoch. :bye:
Just over 200 posts in 17 yrs.....
OK, so ignoring that the post might be fishing - If LG leaves Celtic in the summer, there will be a price to pay as he is under contract - on a reputed £19k per week.
Even if Aberdeen offered him something amazing - for them - of £9.5 k per week, say? they would have to give him a massive length of contract to make it worth his while.
I would love LG of 5 years ago at Hibs, but think the ship has sailed - and from his perspective, he only has one big contract left, so I dont grudge him making a packet somewhere..............but its highly unlikely to be at Easter Road.
Don't know about OP's intentions but I have to admit this is something I've heard grumbling in certain circles more and more over the last few days too.
Personally I'm not too fussed to potentially lose out on him, I would take him for sure but not if it's at a ridiculous wage to do so.
Possible markers:
Celtic would like to get him off their books and might take a hit to achieve that by ploughing cash into a deal with another club.
Even with a helping hand from Celtic, we are unlikely to be in contention financially.
Aberdeen have more financial clout and could conceivably reach a deal with Griffiths and Celtic.
I don’t see Griffiths moving back down to England.
The Scott Brown factor.
Someone who hardly ever posts then starts a thread which could be deemed negative (eg. rumours of Griffiths going to Aberdeen), will always be treated with suspicion. Had it been a post celebrating a win or a decent signing then it would hardly even have been noticed.
I'm not saying it's right, but it's always going to happen.
So a user posts what is a strong rumour and that is questioned because he has 200 posts in 17 years?
His post was fair enough and a large portion of fans may want Griffiths back at Easter Road which if possible is a no brainer. The same fans will be potentially wanting Hibs to sign him if he's available and will then be wondering why not if the club dont sign him.
Hardly a negative post.
It would be a blow of Leigh ends up at Aberdeen . I wonder if JR will fancy him though . Not been disciplined in recent times , and not a role model for younger players . Would have significant risk attached to such a large investment.
No doubt, if his mind is right though, he would be a 20 goal plus a season player for any team
In our league ..match winner type.
Maybe the original poster could have bothered to find out how to spell the name of one of the highest profile players to play at Ester Rod in the past ten years?
Of course you’re going to get ripped when you do that, why wouldn’t you?
it is a valid topic for here. Let’s focus on the topic rather than being negative to the OP.
Griffiths going to Aberdeen would be a real blow. Yet, I can see why there would be a possible reluctance to invest in him. In the right mindset, he is a no brainier ..if he doesn’t fancy it , would be a huge investment with little return
I still highly doubt either us or Aberdeen could afford him unless he’s being let go for free/a massively reduced fee and is willing to take a huge pay cut or Celtc are picking up most of his wage in a loan deal.
I would love LG to sign but you say he’d sign 20+ goals a season yet in a better team and in a team with Scott Brown he’s scored 6 goals this season??
You keep banging on about Scott Brown being a changer etc but he’s been very poor this season and on the downward spiral in respect of his career!
As for LG. If he chooses to go to Aberdeen over Hibs (if we did go in for him) then so be it. I’d be a tad disappointed but not gutted.
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My second sentence did just that!!
That you think some of us would read a Griffiths to Aberdeen rumour as somehow being a negative on Hibs is crazy.
You look for the tiniest slight on Hibs at every opportunity to lambast fellow Hibs fans. It sucks.
The OP posted something he heard, so what? Why should that be suspicious? It's not to most of us.
Behave.
I explained why some people are suspicious of certain posts and posters. I also stated it wasn't necessarily "right".
IMO the majority on here would see Leigh signing for Aberdeen and not us as a negative. You have the right to think otherwise and I have the right to disagree.
As for me looking for "the tiniest slight on Hibs at every opportunity to lambast fellow Hibs fans", I'm sorry but you're talking nonsense.
I'm honestly offended by what you're saying. If anything it's your post that sucks.
Every Hibs fan likes the idea of Leigh returning, it’s a given. However, it would take a significant investment and that would represent a huge gamble, that’s also a given. In the current financial circumstances I struggle to imagine Hibs buying in to that.
Griffiths is under contract for another season. Celtc will have a new manager and he will no doubt want to see what Leigh can do. I’m sure Leigh himself would prefer to be at Celtic and carry on earning the money, which is going to be a hell of a lot more than he will get anywhere else. He’s close to the end of his career, He’ll not be going anywhere, anytime soon.
He might if he's fit then again he might not, he might be up for it he might not...Nothing guaranteed and a hell of a gamble in terms of probably cash outlay.
I thought our strategy was to bring in young talent that we can nurture get a couple of good years out of then sell for a profit ready to reinvest. We might bring in the odd older one as emergency cover but thats about it.
I think he’ll want to try to prove himself under the new manager at Celtic and I reckon a new manager would look at his record, look at his goals against England and say ok Leigh, show me what you can do. I don’t think he’ll go anywhere until his contract is done at Celtic.
Yeah I wonder if that will change with the new regime..Saying that we can comfort ourselves with the relative failure of those who they have apparently pinched so far.
Ive tried to think would I be bothered if either of them didnt have the links to the club they have had. Brown really wouldnt bother me, yes hes been great for Celtic but hes unproven as coach & who knows how he will fair in a team that doesnt have the talent cetic do. Leigh I still think could offer something but as Ive said I just think its too much of a gamble.
I'd be amazed and somewhat disappointed if Griffiths was leaving Celtic and Jack Ross is not monitoring the situation. Leigh is well known to be Hibs daft and is an undoubted talent if something of a maverick genius. It may be of course that the financial aspect is prohibitive. Aberdeen have supposedly got bigger finances in place and they are DESPERATE for goals so have much more incentive to push the boat out than Hibs. If Hibs had a bottomess pit of cash then signing Griffiths certainly would be a no brainer though - we don't however, but we do have a different owner in Ron Gordon who does not seem as uber-cautious as the Farmer-Petrie regime we got so used to over the years. So I would not write off the possibility of Hibs making a move - although we clearly face stern competition for Leigh's signature in Aberdeen.
There’s something about that typo that makes me feel a bit nauseous.
It’s ****ing Leigh :grr:
It’s probably the best way to look at it but I reckon I’d have loved both of them at Hibs now even if they hadn’t played for us before.
Brown will be an improvement on Aberdeen’s current midfield and would be an improvement on ours as well, albeit not necessarily long term. Would Newell, Gogic or Irvine have got so many minutes at Celtic this season? Not a chance.
Griffiths is potentially one of the best strikers in the league and he’d certainly the best outside the OF imo.
He scored 20 in 2014/2015 and 40 in 2015/2016 at Celtic.
Missing out a season where he scored 20 and also not pointing out that the seasons you didn’t miss he scored 28 and 40, so much, much more than 20 is doing him a slight disservice imo.
His rate of scoring at Celtic gave him a goal every 2.08 games. If you could keep him fit, which is of course a big if, then that kind of rate clears 20 every season.
Aberdeen have a lot of players out of contract in the summer which obviously will help with their wage bill, but I wonder if their finances are so much better than us now. Probably had to pay off DM and have had less income than us from season ticket sales + our (hopefully) higher league position and all that it could bring.
I’d be very disappointed if we don’t bring LG back over Aberdeen, although I guess a lot depends on what happens with Nisbet. I can’t see us keeping him, Doidge and then bringing in LG.
Id agree with you, a fit motivated Leigh would be a no brainer...Id still have him as the best striker in the league when given a chance. I. just feel its potentially too big a financial gamble (without knowing what Celtic would want or Leigh would accept). Who knows maybe we have made enquiries, we tend to be a bit more secretive & Aberdeen will be doing anything they can to try & win over disgruntled season ticket holders.
While signing Leigh would certainly drum up some excitement this strategy is what I would like to see us continue with rather than forking out big money on potentially damaged goods with little to no resale value.
Either way I am confident JR and the board will be able to take the emotion out of it and make the right call.
My first reaction would be to bring him back with no hesitation whatsoever. He's capabale of scoring goals that nobody in our current squad can match.
However, if it was a case of a choice between signing Leigh & keeping Nisbet (for example), it becomes far less clear cut.
Mair chance of Terry Griffiths doing a snooker exhibition in Aberdeen
My opinion is that signing Leigh is a big gamble for anyone and an expensive one at that.
The chance of him successfully completing a likely contract is low. If Celtic are willing to dump him and a whole load of money, are they crazy? I suspect people are buying the old Leigh rather than the current version.
I would rather spend the money elsewhere and on more players than gambling on one. Let Aberdeen take the risk if indeed that story is real. I find it unlikely given their wider issues.
Don't see any reason for Celtic to let him go cheaply however there are probably only a very few clubs in Scotland who would be an option. Interesting to see how it works out however think he will see out his final year at Celtic and try and impress their new manager.
With respect, you could have just posted that initially as its a sensible post.
Might have prevented another thread from being side tracked for a bit and even also have encouraged more people to get involved.
Concensus appears we would take him with the acknowledged asterisk attached.
Unless Aberdeen were prepared to pay well over the odds for Leigh/Lee/Lou, there's no possibility that they'd "pip us" to his signature, if we wanted him, imo.
If he does go elsewhere in Scotland, it'll tell me that we didn't want him and I'll be happy enough to accept that we had our reasons. (Have I got those tenses right?)
The romantic in me would like to think that he'd get such a mental boost from being back at the team he supports, that he'd put his troubles behind him, and we'd get a couple of prolific seasons out of him.
The realist in me recognises that fairy tales like that rarely come true.
If it was the Leigh from 2016/17 I would say push the boat out, pay as much as he wants and get him into Hibs squad for next year. The thing is, it isn't the Leigh from then, it is Leigh 2021, who has played in 31 games and scored 6 goals. The last time he scored 20+ in a season was 2016/17, his record since then has been, for a Celtc striker (ie the striker getting the best service in the league) is pretty terrible.
2017/18 - Played 40 Scored 11
2018/19 - Played 20 Scored 4
2019/20 - Played 38 Scored 12
2020/21 - Played 31 Scored 6
These are figures for all games including European games. I think most strikers have purple patches in their careers, Leigh's was 2012 through to 2017, he scored 130 in 4 seasons. Like almost all strikers he will lose that touch or a wee bit of pace and that can make a huge difference to a player and it has shown in his recent seasons. Aberdeen might be a good move for Leigh, but I don't think it would be a good move for Hibs to try and get him again, he is 30, he is not getting any younger or fitter, he will not get that bit of pace or that touch back, I would go so far as to say he will never score 20 goals in a season again at this level. Leigh also doesn't fit our current 'philosophy' as laid out by RG. We are looking to youth, we should be ready to welcome our development players back in preseason to see if any are ready for the step up. We have a great young striker in Nisbet and some real prospects coming through the youth system. Sentimentally I would love to see him back in a Hibs strip but my head says otherwise.
Simple question is... Is Leigh Griffiths better than what we have - Yes. Is Scott Brown better than what we have - Yes. We need to start thinking about how to get over the line to be successful and get to finals and win trophies with this team.
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There are 90 minutes in a game so a player completing 10 league games in a season will have played 900 minutes.
Leigh hasn't managed that for the last 3 seasons so he isn't even a 10 game a season player never mind a 20 goal a season player.
Someone posted on here that he is on £19k a week so let's say that's true. That means he still has another £1 million to pick up in wages from Celtic before his contract ends. Therefore at the end of this season Celtic would probably have to pay him £700k to go away and that would allow him to go to Aberdeen or Hibs for £4k a week and make the same money.
However, Celtic is his home so he probably wants to stay there as long as he can, tieing scarves to goal posts when he is fit enough and available to do so.
I agree with you re LG, still looks decent in the few games I’ve seen him play. I’m not paying too much attention to his lack of game time given Lennon was his manager latterly.
Brown I’m not so sure about, always wondered if he’d get away the same antics with another team that he got away with at Celtic. Add in his age and I’m not fussed.
I'd definitely answer no to both of those questions.
Brown is unlikely to play many games this season. Even if he does, it'll be his swan song, although I suspect he's having that now.
Is Griffiths a better player than Nisbet? One of them is in the Scotland squad this week with a bright international future ahead of him. The other won't play for Scotland again.
I'd far rather keep Nisbet than sign Griffiths.
Unfortunately I can’t see that happening. Little chance of him getting much of a chance at Celtic in the remaining games by the looks of things so doubt Clarke will select. Personally though if the choice was a half fit LG in the squad or McBurnie I know who I’d choose.
I suppose that's a possibility, but as things currently stand, and looking at all the available evidence, I wouldn't be betting on it happening.
If he can't flourish at Celtic, it's a big leap to think he will at a club where chances are much more limited.
I know he didn't always start, but that, in itself, begs the question why.