Fair enough, I appreciate the reply.
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But surely Ross not picking him and subsequently him retiring shows why Ross was correct not to play him because he felt he was not upto the task anymore. The same thing happening with Allan, Gray could've dropped down a league but Ross obviously sees the benefit of having him around coaching.
I disagree. I actually think Ross doesn't fancy him. I think it's clear to see from Ross's signings (Murphy, Mackay) that his key attacking players are wide forwards with lots of pace and he likes energy and industry in the middle (Magennis, JDH). When he came in, I think he wanted to play 4-4-2 and Scott Allan ended up playing wide left. He's clearly not got the pace for that.
Allan is a player who you have to build your team around and most of the attacking play goes through. I just dont think that is the way Ross wants to play but I dont think that means Ross doesnt like flair players - I just think he likes players with pace and attacking verve.
I think some of the conclusions elsewhere on this thread that because Allan isnt getting a game means he is finished. I just don't think he fits into the manager's system neatly. That's not to say he might not have a part to play though, particularly with our injuries.
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If he didn’t fancy him , Why didn’t he get him a move on loan?
Allan does as you say require a certain shape , at the moment it is hard to find him a slot …also, everyone can see he’s not in the fitness that he was a couple of years ago…Ross seems to making the right calls, and Allan is not getting much game time.
He’s hardly giving him any time on the pitch. He played an out of position, on loan striker in his position today. A week after trying to move him on.
I don’t think there is much more evidence needed to suggest that he doesn’t really see him as part of his plans.
You either build a team round Scott Allan or you don’t. Ross has chosen the latter and results are vindicating his choice. Pains me as I love Allan but results speak for themselves. I expect he’ll go out on loan in the next window.
He’s not playing cause he’s not currently good enough to command a starting slot.
Played 90 mins today and scored the last min winner against Falkirk. 2-1 Hibs
I think that would easier for the player and the fans to accept if he had simply faded through age. Unfortunately, his third spell at the club has been endlessly blighted by medical issues from which it appears he is not able to fully recover. I find it hard to imagine Ross would not be making more use of a fully-fit Scott Allan.
What makes it especially sad is that Scott Allan and Hibs just go together. You don't get too many players like that these days. He's produced far and away his finest form for us and was outstanding in his first two spells and it's a real source of regret that he (and we) appear to have been denied the chance to see him maintain that form due to really unfortunate circumstances.
Scott Allan is probably my favourite this century, i'd love him to play and do what he's done in the past.
I think the manager see's a little more of him than we do, and if he thinks the players he's picking will do better then who am i to question him?
Results do back the manager, sometimes we have to back the manager on things.:top marks
Scott Allan on his day was an absolutely majestic player to watch for us in his first two spells. He arrived a time when we had been exposed to years of absolutely dire, turgid, talentless football. Then he arrived and he made me want to go watch Hibs again week on week (amongst the rest of the football we played obviously). Even in his 2nd spell he added that finishing touch to create a midfield three that I still believe was the best in the country for that half of the season.
Maybe his better days are behind him, I don't know. He doesn't deserve to start as everyone else says. But I just want to see him be able to fight for it, and if it doesn't work out by January and he and the club feels its best to move on then he'll go with my good wishes. But until then I just want to see him used when times call for it rather than fearing turning to him.