So, if Celtic beat Aberdeen in the cup. Do Aberdeen get a European place and are, therefore, out of the hunt for the Euro spot that comes with league placings?
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So, if Celtic beat Aberdeen in the cup. Do Aberdeen get a European place and are, therefore, out of the hunt for the Euro spot that comes with league placings?
​No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colr
No, they would get Europe based on their league placing. Cup runners-up get nothing
Is this the last season where 3rd place gets guaranteed group stage?
I think soQuote:
Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
3rd place doesn’t get guaranteed group places, it’s the winner of the Scottish Cup. 3rd only gets it if one of the two teams in 1st or 2nd win the cup. 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
But it is the last season that will happen.
Celtic will thump that Aberdeen team in the final.
This worries me about not finishing 3rd this year but at least we are absolutely guaranteed to finish 3rd next season 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
If we start next season playing the way we are then conference league group stages are only the fallback. There’s nothing stopping us winning the playoff and gaining Europa League groups.
In 2023 Aberdeen lost 5-3 on aggregate to BK Haecken. Aberdeen were crap that season.
In 2024 Hearts lost 2-0 on aggregate to Victoria Plzen. Hearts were crap this season.
If we are at our best then there’s nothing stopping us winning a tie of against that calibre of team.
One step at a time though, beat Aberdeen at the weekend, or even draw, and 3rd is well and truly ours to loose.
If Celtic win tomorrow then 5th gets a European place too.
What a shame hearts missed the cutQuote:
Originally Posted by SHODAN
When would the season start for 5th place and how many qualifiers would that be?Quote:
Originally Posted by SHODAN
I think I would be the same as us last year, 3 round to get through with the first being pretty early.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
I think the danger is that we could easily slip into that sequence if the issue is that apart from the OF Scottish club squads can’t maintain a two game a week schedule.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cn8v1yv81l8o
Decent explanation there.
June and FIVE BILLION OH MY GOD is my educated guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Unless Aberdeen win the cup and finish sixth.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHODAN
Basically amounts to the same thing though, if Celtic win today, we are pretty much guaranteed European football I think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Prof. ****gy
St Mirren would need to win their 5 remaining games which isn’t happening and we would need to lose all 5, again unlikely, although I don’t like to tempt fate 😃
Yea it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
And what we need to remember (assuming Celtic win the semi) is 3rd and 4th are both decent outcomes. 5th really isnt, because it doesn’t give you guaranteed group stage, where the real money is. History tells us the Scottish team that finishes 5th will probably get emptied before the group stage.
So we can’t afford to slip up to the point that BOTH Aberdeen and Utd overtake us.
Probably already been covered but surely 4th doesn't guarantee group stage?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
It doesn’t under any circumstances. There’s only one group stage guarantee (other than Celtic with the UCL). That is the cup winner that gets that. If Celtic win the cup, that goes to the third place. Without the Celtic cup winner, third gets Europa League second qualifying round. If Celtic win the cup, 4th gets the Europa second qualifying round that third would normally get.Quote:
Originally Posted by DIXIHIBS
4th still gives you a decent chance though. 2 wins from 3 ties and if you can win the first tie you’d probably be seeded for the Conference League playoff if you lost the 3rd roundQuote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
All well and good, but if we start the next season like we did this one, Hibs will be another Scottish clun emptied out of Europe early doors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
This site explains all the permutations. Not easy to follow but you eventually get there!
https://kassiesa.net/uefa/AccessList2025.html
5th would still have been a stretch even if they'd scraped in. So near, and yet so far 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
Paul I liked the rest of your post but in my view we need to win all of Buddies and Sheep away and Arabs at home to go into our last game against the Cream Buns in an unassailable position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
I don’t know why everyone is getting so hung up on third…Quote:
Originally Posted by RIP
We win every game and The Rangers lose every game and we’re off to the champions league 🤩
Pit the bong doon, that's long enough.....:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by EdinMike
https://x.com/alanftemple/status/191...bl8ISs-zf5CmHg
Good article in the Dundee Courier about permutations that should explain it all pretty clearly.
All if's, but's and maybe's I know but if we had one all of our games in October last year instead of losing 2 and drawing two we'd only be 3 points behind Sevco and they would be sh*****g in their pantaloons. Imagine their terror at the thought of no Champions League :greengrin