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07-10-2007, 06:32 PM
iwasthere1972

Good luck Scotland

Let the feel good factor continue and get in about the Argies.

:thumbsup:
07-10-2007, 06:55 PM
danhibees1875

what channel?

:thumbsup:
07-10-2007, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by danhibees1875

what channel?

:thumbsup:

ITV now.
07-10-2007, 06:59 PM
danhibees1875

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Originally Posted by Doddie

ITV now.

thanks man. :thumbsup:
07-10-2007, 07:17 PM
keyser Soze

What a ****ing kick. :thumbsup:
07-10-2007, 07:17 PM
cabbageandribs1875

superb penalty from the half-way line by dan parks 3-0 :greengrin
07-10-2007, 07:24 PM
woodythehibee

how far did scotland get in the last world cup?

and what were the realistic expectations before this one?

i'm not up on the egg chasing..
07-10-2007, 07:25 PM
cabbageandribs1875

wish nathan hines wid stop his high tackles :brickwall
07-10-2007, 07:28 PM
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This is riveting..... :yawn:
07-10-2007, 07:33 PM
Hank Schrader

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Originally Posted by Doddie

This is riveting..... :yawn:

Thats why I am watching Top Gear:agree: Had bore written all over it
07-10-2007, 07:34 PM
keyser Soze

F-ing twat. :brickwall
07-10-2007, 07:34 PM
cabbageandribs1875

the scottish schoolboy errors are still there for all to see :agree::brickwall:brickwall
07-10-2007, 07:35 PM
macca70

Lamont is having a shocker, he has gifted them 10 points
07-10-2007, 07:35 PM
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Try Argentina. 11-3.

Converted 13-3.

Scottish defence (if you can call Dan Parks Scottish) pretty pathetic.
07-10-2007, 07:40 PM
Hank Schrader

**** sake:bitchy:
07-10-2007, 07:40 PM
cabbageandribs1875

well done mr reliable :agree::greengrin 6-13
07-10-2007, 07:56 PM
keyser Soze

:brickwall
07-10-2007, 07:56 PM
NaeTechnoHibby

This is crap Scotland :bitchy:

Attack them now....
07-10-2007, 07:57 PM
cabbageandribs1875

yet another error 6-16 oh dear :boo hoo::brickwall:brickwall
07-10-2007, 07:58 PM
cabbageandribs1875

fs why was lamont not taken off at HT
07-10-2007, 07:59 PM
macca70

Wtf is Shaun Lamont up to, he is having a nightmare:bitchy:
07-10-2007, 08:01 PM
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Shanked that one. :bitchy:
07-10-2007, 08:01 PM
cabbageandribs1875

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezus gawd parks :brickwall wtf
07-10-2007, 08:03 PM
Houchy

Quote:

Originally Posted by macca70

Wtf is Shaun Lamont up to, he is having a nightmare:bitchy:

I was in the process of typing something along these lines but decided not to because it sounded like name dropping. I speak to him on a regular basis and he's a great bloke but he is on another planet tonight.
07-10-2007, 08:03 PM
macca70

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezus gawd parks :brickwall wtf

Commentators cursed him there, saying he was 6 from 6 which is amazing as he is only used for the long kicks
07-10-2007, 08:04 PM
NaeTechnoHibby

This as nervous an affair as the Italy game :bitchy:

Scotland have to throw caution to the wind :agree:
07-10-2007, 08:05 PM
cabbageandribs1875

Quote:

Originally Posted by macca70

Commentators cursed him there, saying he was 6 from 6 which is amazing as he is only used for the long kicks

..... i think he only took that one because paterson was still a bit dizzy from the two tackles on him that got the penalty :agree:
07-10-2007, 08:06 PM
macca70

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

..... i think he only took that one because paterson was still a bit dizzy from the two tackles on him that got the penalty :agree:

Parks takes all the long ones, he scored 1 from a similar position in the 1st half
07-10-2007, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NaeTechnoHibby

This as nervous an affair as the Italy game :bitchy:

Scotland have to throw caution to the wind :agree:

If they do, they're sure to knock-on. :cool2:
07-10-2007, 08:07 PM
cabbageandribs1875

sheer luck by the argentenian kicker there:agree: just not gonna be our nite me thinks.

edit: game over :-(

but at least we are winning the handling errors 7-5 :boo hoo:

couple of subs :greengrin hope they are JC inspired
07-10-2007, 08:11 PM
NaeTechnoHibby

We need a more exspansive game.

We need to run at them and see if they can deal with that...

If we can get the ball, that is :bitchy:
07-10-2007, 08:12 PM
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'Scottish' players look thick and muscle-bound, IMO. :cool2:
07-10-2007, 08:17 PM
keyser Soze

YOU ****ING DANCER :thumbsup:

about time
07-10-2007, 08:18 PM
NaeTechnoHibby

They are not the team I used to watch :bitchy:

Yess...

A try :thumbsup:

Referee checking :thumbsup:
07-10-2007, 08:18 PM
cabbageandribs1875

whoohooooooooooooooooooo at long last :thumbsup:and a bit o luck for the conversion :cool2:
07-10-2007, 08:19 PM
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About time.
07-10-2007, 08:21 PM
macca70

C'mon, 1 converted try. just need to cut oot the stupid mistakes.

Edit: just as i type that we go and make another stupid error:brickwall
07-10-2007, 08:21 PM
cabbageandribs1875

get both the lamonts off and just play wae 13 :agree::brickwall
07-10-2007, 08:21 PM
AJWisme

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Originally Posted by macca70

C'mon, 1 converted try. just need to cut oot the stupid mistakes.

:wink:
07-10-2007, 08:21 PM
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Who are these commentators? "Paris poodle"? :cool2:
07-10-2007, 08:23 PM
Ivan Drago

Come on Scotland :thumbsup:
07-10-2007, 08:32 PM
AJWisme

fantastic kick!
07-10-2007, 08:32 PM
cabbageandribs1875

superb kick by paterson
07-10-2007, 08:32 PM
macca70

At last we get into their half, 7 mins to go
07-10-2007, 08:34 PM
macca70

typical scotland, great kick then erse up the line out:bitchy:
07-10-2007, 08:35 PM
cabbageandribs1875

one last push come onnnnnnnnnnnn
07-10-2007, 08:35 PM
AJWisme

another great kick
07-10-2007, 08:35 PM
macca70

what a freaking kick from parks :thumbsup:
07-10-2007, 08:35 PM
keyser Soze

Thank ****, thought he'd missed that.

Cmon good lineout this time please.
07-10-2007, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by macca70

typical scotland, great kick then erse up the line out:bitchy:

they have a second chance. 2 minutes to go.
07-10-2007, 08:37 PM
keyser Soze

Stupid idea. :brickwall
07-10-2007, 08:37 PM
Ivan Drago

Game over :boo hoo:
07-10-2007, 08:37 PM
cabbageandribs1875

made an erse o it
07-10-2007, 08:37 PM
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It appears they've screwed up again. :bitchy:
07-10-2007, 08:37 PM
macca70

what a waste :brickwall:brickwall:brickwall:brickwall
07-10-2007, 08:39 PM
keyser Soze

Game over. :brickwall

Blew it big time.
07-10-2007, 08:39 PM
macca70

aaaarrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhh so frustrating:brickwall:brickwall
07-10-2007, 08:39 PM
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That team is a national embarrassment. :bitchy:
07-10-2007, 08:41 PM
NaeTechnoHibby

Well done to the Argies :agree:

Scotland have been pish in this WC:bitchy:
07-10-2007, 08:41 PM
cabbageandribs1875

not that it matters now but, who was it that kicked the ball over to the line to try get a try ? :asshole:
07-10-2007, 08:42 PM
keyser Soze

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

not that it matters now but, who was it that kicked the ball over to the line to try get a try ? :asshole:

Dan Parks.
07-10-2007, 08:43 PM
Houchy

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Originally Posted by Doddie

That team is a national embarrassment. :bitchy:

Hardly. A poor result tonight but a national embarrassment. Get a grip.:bye:
07-10-2007, 08:43 PM
fife hfc

****ing pish:brickwall

Far too conservative and wait till the last few minutes to have a go. very
p!ssed off if you are going out at least give it a go.
07-10-2007, 08:45 PM
NaeTechnoHibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houchy

Hardly. A poor result tonight but a national embarrassment. Get a grip.:bye:

Think you missed the sarcascm :greengrin
07-10-2007, 08:46 PM
fife hfc

Christ i watched Edinburgh for a few seasons under Hadden and he had them throwing the ball wide at every opportunity. tonight we needed to do that and he plays a scared *****e rugby match. what a clown.
07-10-2007, 08:48 PM
macca70

Doubt they will ever have a better opporchancity:greengrin to get to a World Cup semi, Argentina were there for the taking and we blew it by making far too many mistakes and not playing for the 1st hour. :brickwall:brickwall
07-10-2007, 08:49 PM
Houchy

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Originally Posted by NaeTechnoHibby

Think you missed the sarcascm :greengrin

I hope so!
07-10-2007, 08:50 PM
NaeTechnoHibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by macca70

Doubt they will ever have a better opporchancity:greengrin to get to a World Cup semi, Argentina were there for the taking and we blew it by making far too many mistakes and not playing for the 1st hour. :brickwall:brickwall

Agree :agree:

We should have attacked them earlier IMO :agree:
07-10-2007, 08:52 PM
keyser Soze

Quote:

Originally Posted by fife hfc

Christ i watched Edinburgh for a few seasons under Hadden and he had them throwing the ball wide at every opportunity. tonight we needed to do that and he plays a scared *****e rugby match. what a clown.

:agree:

Only time they did it all game and Cusiter got a try.
07-10-2007, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Houchy

Hardly. A poor result tonight but a national embarrassment. Get a grip.:bye:

Really? They managed to beat, let's see, Portugal, Italy (just) and Romania.

They chucked the game against New Zealand by picking a below-strength side, and they didn't turn up tonight until less than twenty minutes from time (Gregor Townsend's opinion, not mine).

I'd say that's pretty embarrassing.
07-10-2007, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by keyser Soze

Dan Parks.

Which part of Scotland does he come from exactly? :cool2:
07-10-2007, 09:00 PM
cabbageandribs1875

Quote:

Originally Posted by keyser Soze

Dan Parks.

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cheers :aok: all-in-all pretty disappointing we didn't start showing some urgency until time was running out :agree: only upside is we didn't get clobbered by them(like some people thought we would) :agree: so many "IF only's" :boo hoo::brickwall
07-10-2007, 09:02 PM
NaeTechnoHibby

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Originally Posted by Doddie

Really? They managed to beat, let's see, Portugal, Italy (just) and Romania.

They chucked the game against New Zealand by picking a below-strength side, and they didn't turn up tonight until less than twenty minutes from time (Gregor Townsend's opinion, not mine).

I'd say that's pretty embarrassing.

I see where you coming from :agree:

Howevet Scotland lost it tonight by lacking any real threat up-front :agree:

We need to attack teams,...............that's our forte in Rugby :agree:

Pish poor WC this year :bitchy:

Far too defensive :bitchy:
07-10-2007, 09:05 PM
cabbageandribs1875

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doddie

Really? They managed to beat, let's see, Portugal, Italy (just) and Romania.

They chucked the game against New Zealand by picking a below-strength side, and they didn't turn up tonight until less than twenty minutes from time (Gregor Townsend's opinion, not mine).

I'd say that's pretty embarrassing.

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portugal= it was there first game in the WC and were out to prove they were no mugs good win for scotland

italy= no mugs at rugby by any stretch of the imagination another good win

romania= as portugal, thought they would have given us a right hard game but they didnt

all-blacks i concur :greengrin
07-10-2007, 09:09 PM
Houchy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doddie

Really? They managed to beat, let's see, Portugal, Italy (just) and Romania.

They chucked the game against New Zealand by picking a below-strength side, and they didn't turn up tonight until less than twenty minutes from time (Gregor Townsend's opinion, not mine).

I'd say that's pretty embarrassing.

Regarding 1 & 3, well you can only beat what's in front of you.

Regarding New Zealand, I can understand the picking of that team ie avoidance of injuries/fatigue in a game we were unlikely to get anything from and little benefit of winning anyway (play France rather than Argentina. I know who i'd prefer if I had the choice before hand).

Regarding Italy. Granted Italy are not a great team but we did lose the last game we played against them so had to treat them with respect. We got our tactics right on the day and got through to play an Argentinian side who beat France in the first game.

Granted, Scotland in the past should have and would have waltzed past Italy and Argentina but you can only P*ss with the cock you've got and we don't have the best options available at the moment (see this years 6 nations).

Embarassment, I don't think so, but opinions eh.:cool:
07-10-2007, 09:11 PM
Jamesie

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Originally Posted by Houchy

I was in the process of typing something along these lines but decided not to because it sounded like name dropping. I speak to him on a regular basis and he's a great bloke but he is on another planet tonight.

He had a bit of a mare against Romania as well. The tournament hasn't been his finest moment.
07-10-2007, 09:14 PM
keyser Soze

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Originally Posted by Doddie

Which part of Scotland does he come from exactly? :cool2:

The same part as Nigel Quashie i think. :greengrin
07-10-2007, 09:14 PM
Houchy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamesie

He had a bit of a mare against Romania as well. The tournament hasn't been his finest moment.

I know mate. I agree but I think I'll just leave it.:greengrin
07-10-2007, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

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portugal= it was there first game in the WC and were out to prove they were no mugs good win for scotland

italy= no mugs at rugby by any stretch of the imagination another good win

romania= as portugal, thought they would have given us a right hard game but they didnt

all-blacks i concur :greengrin

Those were games we ought to have won anyway. Portugal aren't a serious Rugby power by any stretch of the imagination. Romania was probably the best performance, and against Italy they did just enough.

But when the coach openly chooses a second team against NZ, and the commentators openly rfer to the fact that 'Scotland' won't be trying (Douglas Nicol used the expression 'throwing the game') there's something wrong. Murrayfield was well-filled by people who had paid good money to watch the game. They deserved better.

Tonight they were embarrassing.
07-10-2007, 09:25 PM
Houchy

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Originally Posted by Doddie

Those were games we ought to have won anyway. Portugal aren't a serious Rugby power by any stretch of the imagination. Romania was probably the best performance, and against Italy they did just enough.

But when the coach openly chooses a second team against NZ, and the commentators openly rfer to the fact that 'Scotland' won't be trying (Douglas Nicol used the expression 'throwing the game') there's something wrong. Murrayfield was well-filled by people who had paid good money to watch the game. They deserved better.

Tonight they were embarrassing.

I know the paying public deserved a better performance but to be fair it was the worst kept secret that Scotland were going to do this.

What was the benefit of Scotland going all out for a victory?

To be honest I wanted to go along to the All Blacks game just to see them, really not caring what the score was as it was not important.
07-10-2007, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Houchy

I know the paying public deserved a better performance but to be fair it was the worst kept secret that Scotland were going to do this.

What was the benefit of Scotland going all out for a victory?

To be honest I wanted to go along to the All Blacks game just to see them, really not caring what the score was as it was not important.

The years of my youth were spent at a rugby-playing school where we were constantly lectured by the sadistic dwarf who taught the game that 'soccer' players were (I quote) 'nancy-boys and cheats'. Well, if Alec McLeish or any other Scotland 'soccer' manager had approached an international match in such a cynical spirit he would have been booed out of the stadium, and rightly so. A boxer approaching a bout in that spirit would lose his licence. A jockey would quite possibly have the heavy mob set on him by the bookies he'd cheated.

I've seen a few pretty cynical performances in the FIFA World Cup over the years, but I've never actually heard the team officials and the country's commentators confirming the fact that a team wouldn't be trying before.

That team no longer has any real connection with Scotland. Too many antipodean second-raters, too little contact with the (rapidly shrinking) rugby-playing community, and an over-riding attitude of money-grubbing greed that makes Blatter and UEFA look like angels.

Once upon a time I enjoyed watching rugby. Two Grand Slams in less than ten years, and teams that had a real pride in representing THEIR country. That's the first match I've watched in this World Cup, and I'm very glad I didn't waste any more of my time watching the others. the SRU ought to be ashamed of the way they've destroyed what was once a healthy spectator/participant sport at all levels in this country.

I say it again - they're a disgrace and an embarrassment to Scotland.
10-10-2007, 06:02 PM
AndyP

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doddie

That team no longer has any real connection with Scotland. Too many antipodean second-raters, too little contact with the (rapidly shrinking) rugby-playing community, and an over-riding attitude of money-grubbing greed that makes Blatter and UEFA look like angels.

Just out of interest do you know how many of the Scotland World Cup Squad were Aus/NZ/Saffers :confused:
10-10-2007, 07:48 PM
west_didsbury_hibee

10 of the 31 man squad weren't born in Scotland. 2 in Australia, 1 in Hong Kong and the rest in England.
10-10-2007, 08:13 PM
AndyP

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Originally Posted by west_didsbury_hibee

10 of the 31 man squad weren't born in Scotland. 2 in Australia, 1 in Hong Kong and the rest in England.

So not exactly the overwhelming numbers of Antipodeans that Doddie was insinuating had infested the team this WC :devil: