Thankfully for Mr. Critchley today that was his last big game for a while , really doesn’t seem to like big games , does he? .
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Thankfully for Mr. Critchley today that was his last big game for a while , really doesn’t seem to like big games , does he? .
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Hopefully they keep him.
It's reassuring going into derby matches with him in charge of them
Hearts fans seem conflicted.
A glorious last minute defeat with 9 men and they think they did ok and wasn’t his fault.
Some others want him gone as he never wins important games and lost 2 derbies..should have been 3.
They're right though. It wasn't his fault. He's a managerial/tactical genius and Hearts should get him on a 5 year deal ASAP.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenCastle
Surely next week is another big game for him. They lose to Dundee and will only be 3 points off 11th.
Only if both Kilmarnock and Ross county win , and they are playing each otherQuote:
Originally Posted by David_D
Probably Critchley’s last ‘big game’ unless last day of the season they need a point:brokenyam:
More pre-contracts hopefully and keep up the good work critchers.
😂
if Dundee beat them, they will absolutely crap themselves. It’s Ross County after that for them.. If this happens….Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby70
jambos v Dundee….dundee victory
Kilmarnock v RossCounty….killi victory
Motherwell St Johnstone…. Motherwell victory
next round of matches
Dundee v Motherwell… Dundee victory
Ross County v Hearts …. Ross county victory
St Johnstone v Kilmarnock… Kilmarnock victory
thst would leave the bottom 6 as
7) Motherwell - 42 points
8) Killi - 41 points
9) Hearts - 40 points
10) Dundee - 40 points
11) Ross County - 38 points
12) St Johnstone - 29 points
Three matches to play… Hearts 2 points off a play off place :agree: and we know how good they are at big matches…. Jambottlers
Totally uninspiring appointment from the word go. Even his name sounds like he should be a pencil pushing mid manager in a logistics company or similar. Got all the charisma of a lump of coal and even less tactical nous.
Hope they give him time …
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https://www.hibs.net/blob:https://ww...b-0503bb519b61Quote:
Originally Posted by Www1875hfc
Good thing is, if he goes, they need to roll the dice again. No guarantee anyone that comes in will be any better.Quote:
Originally Posted by LancsHibs
This might be the first time in my lifetime that we're consistently better at getting results (not just playing good football) than Hearts.
Loving it
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I can’t make my mind up whether he got his tactics right after the sending off or not. Another few minutes and they could have had the chance to win it on penalties and he’d be hailed as a tactical genius. However, he really just played for extra time and penalties from half time in a Scottish Cup semifinal by taking two strikers off and having no out ball.
It just seems a very negative defeatist tactic although it just may have worked for him. Aberdeen were so poor though and struggle to break teams down and I’d have been disappointed if that was us and we’d been so negative. They’re oot though so I’m no really bothered. 😎
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by DinkyTwo
Is it possible to have an AI mashup of Neil singing Kate Bush Wuthering Heights?
I'd love to say it wasn't, but there's been many a last minute screamer, or Hearts grinding their way to 3rd / 4th whilst playing **** yet robust football.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees
This season we've out-fought or simply outplayed our opponent for 17 games in a row. Something that has only happened once before.
I'm confident we'd beat them any day of the week and would welcome a derby, safe in the knowledge that we'd fight them to the bitter end and get the result we needed.
I don't think I've felt that way before, despite seeing some good Hibs teams in the past.
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The Critchley and Slapheid Show continues.
Hear7s are currently 6 points ahead of Dundee, but due to goal difference it's effectively 7 points.Quote:
Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
Unfortunately I think it's highly unlikely they'll be in the bottom 2 as that's a decent cushion, not impossible right enough but I think they'll just have enough to avoid it.
Big club though.
I wouldn't fancy them to win a playoff. They can't win big games.
They won’t finish second bottom unfortunately, would be funny though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
If it was against Celtic or, say, a tough opponent in a European tie then yes of course you could understand it, but look what a very poor Rangers side did at Pittodrie with 10 men last week. This sheep team are no great shakes and trying to hold out for penalties wasn't heroic by any means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
Agree. In that kind of defensive stalemate game if you’re down to ten men your only hope is rolling the dice and hope for one moment of magic, not taking off your attacking options and watching them all physically tire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
Really didn’t understand the reasoning behind why he took off all the pace he had upfront tbh .Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
I think hearts probably would have stood a better chance down to 10 men with Kabangu up front rather than Shankland
Aberdeen are useless defending balls over the top/in behind and constantly caught on the counter
Shankland doesn’t offer that threat at all and it’s what Kabangu likes to do
My point was his tactic nearly worked and if it had they’d all be swooning over him. I just think I’d be gutted to think if we had done that against a poor Aberdeen side. Seems a crazy decision which almost worked but thankfully didn’t. 😁
If Carlsberg did weekend results………….Quote:
Originally Posted by David_D
Has he won a big game yet ?
Critchley's not happy with Beaton.
An exasperated Critchley, now fighting to save his job after failing to get his side into the top six of the Premiership, insisted Beaton couldn’t send off Steinwender quickly enough and couldn’t believe Devlin’s expulsion moments before Dabbagh’s winner.
However, he was particularly unhappy with the referee’s reaction when he attempted to talk to him about the decisions that changed the game.
‘I tried to (speak to him),’ said Critchley. ‘I got some kind of response, yeah, but when you try to say things in a respectful way, you hope that you get respect back.
‘I like to think I give everyone respect with the way I conduct myself and I expect that in return, but I don’t think I got that. I was near my assistant, who he sent off at the end. Didn’t swear at him, only asked to speak to him. His response was not very good, in my opinion.
‘Then, when I asked why he’d sent him (Steinwender) off, he said he would send me off. I was thinking: “For what reason? Why?”. We did not swear. I would not do that. That’s not how I conduct myself. I get frustrated sometimes on the side and show a bit of passion, but I apologise to the fourth official if he says calm down. I get it.
‘You just hope you get that level of respect in return and we didn’t get it.’
Steinwender’s 44th-minute red card for bringing down Topi Keskinen forced Critchley to tear up the game plan at half-time and go to three at the back, but he was unhappy with Beaton’s decision.
‘I’ve never seen a referee get a red card out quicker in my entire life,’ he said. ‘It’s a long way from goal and we had recovering defenders. He couldn’t wait to send him off.
‘I thought there were a few questionable decisions throughout the game. There was Cammy’s first booking and then the second one. He’s in motion and going to clear the ball and the other lad (Dante Polvara) jumps in front of him.
‘Yeah, it’s a foul, but to book him? I mean, come on. Wow. It was incredible.’
Critchley refused to accept, though, that there was a lot at stake personally, in terms of job security, in the wake of a season that is now over and done with.
‘No, I don’t feel like that at all, no,’ he said. ‘When you look at when I took over, we had two points after 11 games. If you do a points-per-game in my tenure, we’d be top six comfortably and we’ve got to a semi-final, taking it right to the wire today with ten men for a long period.
‘There are more than enough positive signs and we have a plan and strategy on how we want to move forward.’
Stick in son, you're doing a great job.
A wee bit Trumpian there, Critch. It was only 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
He's a good fit for them IMO. Boring to watch, terrible dress sense. High opinion of himself for no good reason. Hasn't quite reached Naismith levels of whininess yet, but he's getting there. Long live the Critchley era.
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Tactically, I thought he got it right being down to 10. They managed to stay in it for a very long time with 10 men. Which makes it funnier in terms of how they lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Needs time. Gray won 1 in 13 in his start here. Now unbeaten in 17. If you stick with your guy he'll come good. This is the line I'm resolutely trumpeting to Yam pals.
The Critch has a point, I think it would have been much more enjoyable if the mug who fouled the last man thereby earning the mandatory red card had been sent off slowly rather than instantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
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They were very solid and comfortable defending and were very close to a penalty shoot out. To be honest Aberdeen contributed hugely to how comfortable they were. Shame they couldn’t quite complete their heroic victory. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
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Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
100%.
he basically shat the bed. All this “brave performance” guff from the usual Hearts sycophants on the radio is nonsense. They were playing a guff Aberdeen team and didn’t manage another shot on target when they went down to 10 men.
I think it’s quite easy to defend well if that’s all you want to do and abandon any attempts to get forward. Similarly it’s easy to play attacking football if you don’t concern yourself with the defensive side (see his comments after the Celtic game they got pumped in recently).Quote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
When he manages to get his team to do both they’ll maybe be able to compete with the top 6 big boys.
Beaton got all the big decisions right they have no reason to complain. Pleasing
Pretty concise summary of what I saw.:not worth They ignore getting three guys sent off as any indication that they were struggling to compete. Terrible game overall. Result fine though :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
Just two sent offQuote:
Originally Posted by Green_one
The first sending off in particular, they are glossing over how the situation came about. Aberdeen had scored once already and the Aberdeen striker had just broken through them again, as the other boy Shayden Morris had already done earlier in the game too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green_one
Defensively they weren’t playing well, that’s why they went down to 10 men. Ironically enough, that allowed them to just defend and play for a draw. If they’d have kept 11 men on the park they would have lost in 90 IMO.
They only managed one shot more on target in that game than we did, and we were in our beds or something :hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
Convinced shankland couldn't be arsed and got himself taken off. An injury in training that keeps him out the rest of the season wouldn't surprise me
I'm sure Brother Beaton would have been pulled up by VAR if he'd got the sending off wrong no matter how quick he was.
Totally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
Hate to defend them, but seems refs can’t win. Folk have been moaning for ages that refs don’t make decisions anymore and rely on VAR. Then when they do make a decision it’s too quick.
Said it before, but Beaton is the best ref we have up here.
Another derby defeat and he’s done.
Critchley is shamelessly reflecting his own mistakes onto the ref and hoping that it chimes with the fans on the terraces. Hearts have got themselves where we were with Monty last season at this time. I'd be surprised if he lasts the season.
Assistant Coach got red card tooQuote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Given how unthreatening (and poor defensively) Aberdeen had been in the first half I don't agree he called it right tactially.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
I always think about us going down to 10 men and how difficult it becomes. Saw it numerous times earlier this season. They limited Aberdeen for 70 minutes then made an arse of it near the end which was funny. If he’d just went attacking and left space, they’d have lost in normal time.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
He'll probably get away with that yesterday because they are all pretending the first red was the wrong decision so they can blame the ref.
I was surprised he took Wilson off. I get Shankland had scored but he's not a particularly effective outball. Wilson, whilst raw, is pretty physical and fast. When they got him the ball he was giving Shinnie problems running the channel on that side. Removing him basically killed any ability to go long and the ball to stick or even be competed for. Of the 3 options they had up top I would say Shankland was the least effective to leave on up there alone.
He will be like up for it next season at hunsQuote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy
Possibly, but in terms of the opposition I'm just not convinced they were likely to exploit their advantage. Rangers played with 10 men for most of the game against them the previous week and scored twice. I thought Critchley gave Aberdeen too much respect by going so ultra defensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
Far from certain that he sees another derby.Quote:
Originally Posted by K-Zazu
Obviously impossible to know what would have happened if he’d kept another attacker on, but I disagree and think the game was still there for hearts to win at HT.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
Hearts did stay in it until the end but I would put that down to Aberdeen being absolutely horrific in the second half rather than Critchley’s tactics. A better side would have put them to the sword second half.
Hearts tactics were to defend centrally well - hence why Aberdeen struggled off any crosses then counter by mostly giving it to Maldini..sorry I mean Penrice on the left to whip a cross in for Crampland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Aberdeen were crap and honestly if Hearts had a Boyle type up front they would have won that game.
It’s easy to be heroic when defending but considering how dodgy the Aberdeen keeper looked having not played for weeks - they missed an opportunity big time.
Yes. Critch bottled it, plain and simple. He took of pace because he had no intention of trying to win it with 10 men. All he wanted was a penalty shoot out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
Aberdeen’s biggest threat is on the counter with the two wide players, particularly Morris. Shut the space off and they didn’t have a clue what to do. Having watched that, I think we’ll do similar next week, just with 11 men on the park and more quality when we do get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
Oh come on it was a heroic performance from the Jambos , they went out on their shields like valiant knights . Beaton cheated them , the 1st red was a travesty of refereeing , it was 30 yards out , the aberdeen boy wasn't about to go 1 on 1 with Gordon and the 2nd red was just a joke , it was only Devlins 28th foul of the game , criminal that Beaton didn't allow him a few more and the winning goal was 12 yards offside . I feel for them it was such a blatant Robbery
That’s it in a nutshell. Any team can just dig in and hope they get to penalties, most often it doesn’t work though. You need to have some ambition to win the match - he was hoping to get it to penalties where it’s a lottery, don’t be gaslit into thinking getting to penalties equals “Hearts would have won”.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
It’s just as likely that Aberdeen would have won on penalties.
Packing the defence and trying to defend is a routine training drill that every team does - nothing Hearts did yesterday was particularly tactically smart or revolutionary, they forced Aberdeen wide and defended their box, and were grateful Aberdeen were slow and wasteful with their play.
They did it well, but if you’re not bothered about having a go yourself then it’s not really worth it. Their fans should be looking back on that game furious that they’ve not really had a go at Aberdeen at 10 v 11. That’s not an insurmountable disadvantage that necessitated giving up any attacking threat they had.
Critchley 100% shat the bed when he opted to play for penalties, there was no faith in his team that they could compete with Aberdeen in open play.
Cathro mk 2, could tell that from his very first interview.
Never, ever a leader of men.
Long live the Critch 👍😂
100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Contrast this to the Maloney semi against them, Newall sent off yet we totally dominated the game against 11 men and I’m sure most of a maroon persuasion would agree how fortunate they were to win that game.
That’s how a team with 10 men can be brave and still offer a threat, in a big game.
This. They were playing Aberdeen for goodness sake. Not Celtic or even Rangers. Cowardly tactics got what it deserved. Nothing. Hearts are the new St Johnsone. Would get football stopped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
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Originally Posted by matty_f
Hearts gave lip service to any kind of attacking play after the sending off. They made maybe 3 or 4 forays past the halfway line, won a corner once, in the whole second half. They put 5 players on their 18 yard line, and 3 sitting midfielders in front of them. Critchley had no intention of looking for a winner.
And they defended fairly well against a toothless Aberdeen side, but at the end of the day, the defending team have to get everything right over and over and over, the attacking team only need to get it right once to score.
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Originally Posted by Since452
This rangers team are very poor, and we’re playing half a reserve side against Aberdeen last week, and managed to come back from 2 goals down after a sending off. Any sensible manager would have looked at that and saw how to get at Aberdeen with 11 or 10 men. Critchley went into an ultra defensive shape and played for penalties for nearly 70 minutes, so negative.
Hard luck Jambos, brave, courageous, but in the end, cowardly, stupid, loser tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
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Down to ten and you keep the most immobile player in your squad on the pitch. Says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by McD
Critch’d it said they were still a threat. Where.
I also hope they kept Gordon as their No1 next season. He set up the winner superbly well and is nowhere near as good as he was.
For such a tall guy he seems always to be rooted to his line for cross balls. His reputation is built on shot stopping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
He shat the bed for Scotland v England when, in my opinion anyway, he should have used his height to come for the cross that led to a goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Even his shot stopping has deteriorated a bit.
Pretty funny to think he won’t have the opportunity to blow another big game for at least 1/3 of a year.
Sunderland fans used to call him Jesus. Quite apt this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Crutch, is such a nice man shame it may take him 6 or 7 years to turn this one around.
Interesting, very typical Jambo narrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Brave, courageous, valiant etc.
Fact is they had a very good chance to best a dreadful Aberdeen side on the day and make the final. Let down by indiscipline that led to two stupid red cards. They should be looking at that and how the players blew it big time. If they'd have kept 11 on the pitch they'd likely have won it in 90.
Ive just seen the nauseating Craig Gordon interview. What an embarrassment. They’re carrying on like theyre Italy been stitched up by the Ecuadorian ref in Korea 2002.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baader
Classic deflection tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Unfortunately Craigie you spilled a shot to the feet of an opposition striker who finished with aplomb.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Dry your eyes and get it right round yeah!
And for the first goal, made an erse of … no, wait, made his erse a goal scorer. You try to cover and defend the actions of a player such as devlin, you deserve what you get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
And as to the first red card, even most hearts fans know they can’t argue their case, total nonsense.
There was basically nothing brave about what he done yesterday in his selections in taking off two of his quickest attackers and leaving the one that was slow and immobile on . He was playing for penalties even though they could still have had a go as Aberdeen weren’t great ( glad they didn’t) …Quote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
I hope he survives there but that yesterday was very negative tactics and I think there is also a pattern with him in how he wants them to play in being possession based but as we seen in the Motherwell and some other games they don’t do a lot with it in an attacking sense …
All the guff in the media about their identity, bravery etc is a complete load of nonsense.
Just seen the highlights and Critchley questioned the Steinwinder red card.
What a tube, it was a stick on red card and every man and their dug knows it.
Just another classless jambo
Couldn’t agree more absolutely blew that goalQuote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
The play offs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
What’s happened to Zander Clark ? Signed a new deal and hardly been involved.
Craig Gordon definitely making more mistakes than ever and getting closer to retiring by the day.
Hearts without Shankland (who has struggled obviously this season) and Gordon will be definitely a different side to face.