I'm hearing that the prices are very decent, great to hear. £2.80 Strongbow, that'll do me 🍺
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I'm hearing that the prices are very decent, great to hear. £2.80 Strongbow, that'll do me 🍺
Is this the old Foot of The Walk?
Glad to hear it.
For all of Spoons faults (real and manufactured) it was a place where a lot of people, particularly the older lads, could get a cheap beer and a scran and there aren't many of them left in Leith.
If the new place is keeping things reasonable then good luck to them.
A big miss to the community that its not doing food. That was one of the big attractions of the Foot of the Walk for locals.
It is aye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
It's very sensible, I'm sure it will be a massive success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Probably decided the prices they would need to charge for food would be too high compared to Spoons, so wet led was the best way forward, less staff and overheads.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
Very nice place, I would imagine it'll be mobbed on match days at ER.
They should maybe have offered some basic hot snacks. Folk sitting for hours - if thats how it turns out - will soon feel peckish after a few pints. Dukes a few doors along attracts a lot of folk for big sporting events and they do things like wings that people go daft for. Apparently the old kitchen had a lot of issues that needed real sorting out. I hope they haven’t taken the decision on food to try and save some cash on resolving the kitchen issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee
No kids or football colours. Seems a massive own goal to not say no football colours bar hibs home games. Not sure what trouble hibs strips on a hibs match day would causeQuote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Drove past there last night sometime between 6.30 and 7 and they seemed to have numerous security staff on the doors. I appreciate there's 3(?) entrances so if they need someone on the door they need need at least 3 staff but there were more than that. I don't remember that many security when it was Spoons. Is that the norm there now or have they had bother since opening? Maybe just a precaution with a few games on yesterday.
It's a big venue that sells relatively cheap pints in an area that is known to have a few characters shall we say close by.Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
Throw in football then it's probably sensible to have security staff on.
According to my brother it has been like that since it opened, had quite a good day in there yesterday as far as I can remember. 🤭Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
Popped in today after work with a mate for a couple of pints. £7.55 for a Guinness & a Tennents. I quite like the place. Lots of tv’s, masters golf and 2 different horse racing channels on show. Music which wasn’t too loud so we could hear ourselves speak and colour changing mood lighting. Choice of seating from tables of varying sizes to large booths. There’s a couple of dart boards too which were both being played on. No security when we arrived at half 3 but they appeared around 5pm. I’ll probably go back.
I last walked past a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday at about 1pm and there was some bloke exiting then vomiting generously onto the road.
Think I'll pass.
I just tried to book an area/tables for a Tartan Army supporters club committee meeting. 8 folk for a few hours having a chat and a few beers. They don't take bookings.
They seem to be getting quite a lot wrong in my opinion. No colours on match days (in a sports bar a short walk from Easter Road), no food, no bookings (not as if they don't have the room). Also noticed that they're flaunting Scottish licensing laws with their pricing and promotions.
I've said the same about the no colours and lack of foodQuote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
My old boy has been in the last 2 Saturdays, it used to be his local as he loves a cheap pint, his take is that he likes it, decent prices, no kids, sport everywhere and music playing, said the manager came up to him and his pals asking their opinion on the place and what they could do better as they were just trying different things out just now, so who knows they might see sense eventually
The no colours thing is just bizarre.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
A pal was in yesterday....hottest day of the year so far and turns out they don't allow shorts after 7pm. :faf:
Wtaf :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
So I finally visited after the game yesterday. They've done a great job and the prices are mentally cheap. Had to remove my Hibs top to get in (I was wearing a less obvious Hibs t-shirt underneath). Saw lots of fans being refused entry. Really is a bizarre stance. The pub was relatively quiet but could've been heaving with fans in good form wanting to watch the FA Cup Final. A huge sports bar in Leith who don't want sports fans......weird!
Nae commentary for the final which is always a tad annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
They really are amateurs. What kind of self proclaimed sports bar doesn't have the sound on for the FA Cup Final? We left and went to Malones. Absolutely jumping.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
I hate that. Not sure if it’s just me but I find football hard to watch without commentary, or at the very minimum, crowd noise.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
People seem to enjoy slagging off numerous commentators but, I'd rather have them than notQuote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I see the Volley opened today. Does anyone know if it’s showing the cup final next weekend?
They showed the FA Cup final so should be. Contrary to the Angel, these are proper operators. Record Factory in Glasgow is a great venue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
Not related to the pub in the thread title but I was in Finnegan's Wake last night (not my choice, someone's birthday).
A pint of Neck Oil was £8.35. Eight pounds and thirty five pence. I suppose it's inevitable, as soon as the £7 barrier was reached, breached and accepted then £8 was always going to be next. I was mildly miffed about paying £6.55 for a Tennents so **** knows what anyone drinking the Neck Oil was thinking.
We can't be far away from the tenner pint. I wonder if psychologically that will be the final straw for a lot of people. I sympathise with publicans (although I struggle to justify £8.35) because I deal with them everyday but there must come a tipping point eventually.
That's mad! That's beyond London prices for a pint (although caveat, I've not bought a pint in London since before Covid actually...).Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
That's insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
The centre of Edinburgh is quickly becoming a place only tourists go out for a drink.
I drink up town, there's 5 bars where my friends are I are regulars, we get various discounts in each one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
But, yeah, some prices are ridiculous. That Guinness 'shortage' a few months ago was I'm sure a publicity stunt and an excuse for some to ramp up the price. It was £8.50 for a non discounted pint in one of the bars I drink in. It soon came down in price when folk stopped drinking it or went elsewhere.
It wasn't a publicity stunt, it cost Diageo millions. Guinness sales in the UK are up about 20% year on year, that's definitely bourn out in my pub. Never seen demand like it, especially from the young team (and young females in particular). Splitting the G has a lot to answer for. They simply couldn't cope with demand in the build up to Christmas and the 6 Nations. Guinness Zero is also selling ridiculously well .Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
Crazy prices, even for Tennents. I think pubs use it as a bench-marker with their being a wide-spread aversion to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
The tipping point has been reached for me already. We had a great day out on Leith Walk outside Robbies after the game, we just went over the road and bought a case of cans every half an hour or so. It was cheaper and quicker than getting served in the pubs and had a great time.
Was at the darts in Aberdeen on Thursday night and P&J venue were charging around £8.95 for a pint of moretti.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I can't think what the justification is for the prices in Edinburgh. The centre of Edinburgh genuinely is more expensive for a pint than London, where you'd imagine rents are higher and staff costs are also higher. Glasgow you'll probably pay about £4.50 ish for a Tennents.
A lot of these venues in central Edinburgh don't even have Sky Sports/TNT so it's not as if that's a cost they are having to cover. In some cases it does seem like blatant profiteering.
I'm pretty sure the Scotsman Lounge is about 7 quid for a Strongbow. I was charged £7 for a bottle, a 330ml bottle, of Heineken recently in a bar in the town! If you buying that as a round of 4, then that's obviously nearly £30 for 4 330ml bottles of beer.
I'm not a massive fan of Wetherspoons as they're not really my idea of what a pub should be, but when you see the prices they charge you can see why they're popular.
Sad fact is, the justification is the continually rising costs of running a business and it’s what’s required to make ends meet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
Surely though Edinburgh pubs are not unique in that regard?Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Every single pub across the country has the same challenges, yet in Edinburgh you've got bars charging £8 for a pint or £7 for a small bottle of beer.
Part of the issue is also you don't know the price of the pint until it's ordered and poured, you're then kind of obliged to pay it.
I actually wouldn't mind Edinburgh Council implementing a policy where the price of the product is confirmed at the time of ordering prior to pouring, so if you get some place is charging 8 quid a pint the punter can refuse and walk out the door if they don't feel like paying that.
That's why I'm prepared to put up with the idiosyncrasies of Angel, £2.80 for Strongbow, most other prices great too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
£8.35 for a pint in Edinburgh is insane. I paid £7.50 for a pint of Neck Oil in The Hereford in Chelsea last year and sucked it up cause of where it was.
On topic, you’ll never have a colours ban in Robbie’s, a pint is around a fiver and the sport is always on.
Have heard that Management of The Angel are having a rethink regarding the football colours ban.
Neck Oil has become notoriously expensive but that is too much, as is the price for a T.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I'm pretty sure it is already law that prices need to be 'displayed'. The problem is that they are sometimes displayed on a tiny board behind the bar that is unreadable to punters (or in a place that is unreachable when the bar is busy).Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
So I agree, there should be stricter rules on displaying prices.
Its been like that for sometime too. The last handful of times we've been in London (since covid certainly, maybe before that), we've been "pleasantly" surprised at the price of a pint in London compared to Edinburgh. When you then go to somewhere like Liverpool or Newcastle (or even Glasgow), it is eye watering how much cheaper a pint is there vs Edinburgh. Only place I've thought that was on a par was Belfast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
I even found Dublin which is notoriously expensive to be favourable to Edinburgh when I was over with work lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
Obviously the tourist traps of Temple Bar, Brazen Head etc are ridiculous but other city centre boozers were about €7.50-7.80 for a Guinness which is about £6.50-6.70. Iirc we went to the Lark Inn on Meath Street which was still doing Guinness for €5.50 and Beamish for under a fiver.
Cask and Barrel Southside Tennents lager £3.50
No commentary tonight again 🥴
I said to the guy behind the bar that it's strange behaviour for a sports bar, he said it's not a Sports bar, beginning to think he has a point 🤭
2 bar staff on, about 50 students just turned up, mayhem ensues. 🤭
He needs to tell whoever is in charge of their social media accounts then. I'll say it again, amateurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Without a doubt. The uni kids seem to have discovered the prices, a mass invasion occurred tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
That is absolutely nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I’m fairly regularly in London and it’s nowhere near as expensive as Edinburgh for a drink and at worst it’s similar to Edinburgh for food, but again, potentially cheaper.
I was in The Devonshire, middle of SoHo, total social media craze surrounding it and it was £6.90 for a Guinness. Every single drink I had in Islington, Shoreditch, SoHo was cheaper than what I’d expect to pay in Edinburgh city centre, often by a considerable margin.
My local is £5 for a Tennents now, which is expensive but I can accept it for what is a great pint in a great pub in a nice area. The city centre prices are scandalous.
I think the theory that Edinburgh pubs need to charge these prices to stay afloat is somewhat disproven when it's more expensive than London.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
It's basically ripping the social heart of the city centre out, leaving it filled with tourists and few locals. The businesses won't care though as long as they are lining their pockets.
The Devonshire is an absolute *****hole to be honest. Last time I was in it was filthy, tables looked like they hadn’t ben cleaned or cleared in hours, bogs like something out of Trainspotting and hardly any staff o so the wait to get served was a joke. Maybe they should up their prices and employ more staff…..Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I wasn’t massively fussed either way for it but I don’t have any real complaints either. Got served within about 2 minutes, seemed clean enough and never used the bogs :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
Continuing the price of a pint discussion, I was in London last week for a gig. Had a few drinks around Soho in the afternoon. Prices ranged from £6 in a couple of Greeneking pubs (they are EVERYWHERE) to well over £7 in independent type venues which were IMO, far better. In Brixton I (reluctantly) visited a Spoons, which was under £4 a pint and advertising £1.99 pints on Mondays (wtf) The very nice bar over the road, Canova Hall, was well over £7 a pint. I would far rather pay their prices than give Spoons my money.
I pay £5.20 for a superb pint of 80’ in my local, never as good anywhere else.
So basically Edinburgh prices are now on par with London, where rents are higher, staff costs are higher and the average wage for the punter purchasing is higher?Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
They finally had the commentary on last night. 🍺
I popped into the old Torino last Saturday afternoon. Now re-opened as Oliver’s. £4.50 for a Tennents. All new decor and seats. Green wallpaper, green ceiling, green seats inside and in the beer garden. All a bit too green to be honest and made the place appear a little dark. Pool table has gone but they still have multiple tv’s showing sports. Still wasn’t bad though.
Kind of depends on the venue, what’s on offer etc. You’re not just paying for the liquid in the glass in many venues. Do they have Sky, live music, lots of staff working compared to minimum numbers you see in Spoons and the likes, are they paying more than NMW, the skill set of the staff, the fixtures & fittings, the rent & rates in a location, security staff, the cost price of the product from their suppliers…….lots of factors contribute to the price of a pint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
So are they a sports bar again? :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Exactly, they appear to be coming around to the idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
Yet Edinburgh seems to be an outlier to the rest of the country, bar possibly London where the costs to the venue are higher.
It's either the pubs in central Edinburgh are more operationally challenging to run than anywhere else in the across the whole of the UK ,or city centre pubs are cashing in on the fact Edinburgh is a tourist hotspot and inflating prices for that market.
Id suggest it’s mix of that and landlords, suppliers and councils cashing in on things like trading inside a world heritage sites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
I think we are on the same page here, just using different terminology.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
"Cashing in" is essentially inflating prices at the expense of the local market and it's citizens to extract a maximum amount from tourists.
I've not seen any argument against the fact that Edinburgh city centre pubs are ripping people off.
Seemingly the bouncers had to be on their toes last night as they had to take a guy to the ground who had produced a multi firing crossbow from his bag! 😳
Aye but was he wearing shorts after 7pm?Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Not been out in Leith on a Friday night for a while, is this not what every fashionable & trendy young man accessorises with these days 🤔Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
:faf::faf::faf::top marksQuote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
In for the first time tonight. 3 pints for £10. Everything else aside, you simply cannot knock that.
Aye, for those knocking it you can get 3 pints for a tenner and they have sports channels which to a venue that size will be a sizeable cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by MountcastleHibs
Does minimum pricing come into play when comparing prices between pubs in Edinburgh and London?Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
The minimum price permitted to be charged for a pint in Scotland is £1.63 so it won't come into it. The policy is intended for shops rather than pubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by DH1875
Just arrived at our hotel in London. £5.50 a pint in the hotel bar! OK it’s not really London, it’s Kingston Upon Thames but I think that’s superb.
Pint of Theakstons XB in the Angel £2.30. It was decent.
I know bars do deals but if they can do it for one group why not everyone?
I was up at George IV Bridge earlier today and Frankenstein's was offering students a fair number of discounts, including £3.20 for a pint of Tennent's Lager.
I can understand loyalty cards as a reward for custom but just giving random groups a huge town centre discount???
£6.95 for a pint of Punk IPA in Waverley station, I had a coffee
Students rarely drink in pubs nowadays so it’ll be an incentive to get them in. Anyone over 25 still has a pre covid memory of what pubs used to beQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack
I thought those type of deals were a no, no in Scotland these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
Quite right too, when I hit 50 I decided that I wasn't paying mad prices for bevvy anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bridge hibs
As long as the price remains the same for a minimum of 3 full trading days and is not below the minimum pricing, it's fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
How much was the coffee? I don't drink the stuff but the prices the likes of Starbucks charge are just as bad as pints in city centresQuote:
Originally Posted by Bridge hibs
Sign of the times but I don’t think that’s that bad for Edinburgh city centreQuote:
Originally Posted by Bridge hibs
I think it wasnt a kick in the arse off £4, my Wife paid for it. To be honest like has been mentioned you pay the price for the location although that said Im sure a pint of Punk IPA in the Scottish Pub Copenhagen was actually cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
There was stag and hen parties present too, Im sure there would have been a lot of empty purses and wallets before they even got onto their train 😬
Incidentally the same pint costs £5.60 about 150 yards away in the Booking Office.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bridge hibs
Was in there last night for The Cider Festival, decent enough night although not many options available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I'd rather pay the premium to not drink in a Spoons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
There's been a very noticeable reduction of stag & hen groups in Edinburgh the last couple of years. I have no doubt the hotel prices are turning them away. The rooms are being filled by rich, middle (and older) aged Americans by the looks of things. Most tourists I speak to have come form or are heading to the likes of London, Dublin, Paris, Berlin, Prague, Krakow so the Edinburgh Old Town prices are pretty normal for them. Even the likes of Prague & Krakow old town prices aren't a kick in the arse off ours these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bridge hibs
£18.75 for a bottle of Black sheep ale and a Passionfruit martini in York Shambles, I cant knock that price 🤭 Attachment 28953
York is brilliant but, for the most part isn't cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bridge hibs
Spoons v Brewdog.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
The former wins every time for me.
Strong agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I was in the old International Bar the other day. Seamus's. Same guy that has O'Connors on Broughton Road and Dropkick Murphys in the Cowgate.
They have done a decent job tarting it up. Going for the student crowd a bit with a couple of beers at £3.95 with student ID; one was Tennents, can't remember the other.
They had Beamish on draught which was a nice treat. You hardly see it anywhere now but I much prefer it to Guinness and Murphys. Around £7 a pint I think but don't mind it for something you can't get anywhere else in Edinburgh (and rarely seen outside of Cork nowadays).
This the one just at the west end of the Meadows, PB?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
That's the one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Likewise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Aye, when you put it like that, tough choice. A wee walk to the next pub for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy