Joe Newell

As much as I rated Joe highly before this year, he's had a pretty outstanding season so far. Consistency was the one thing people would criticise him for, in my opinion he's been largely pretty good for the last 12 months now, bordering on exceptional this season so far.

From a boo boys target to a bona-fide fans favourite, some turn around for the guy.

Personally would like to see him have the armband permanently. I love Hanlon for all he's done for the club, but I think Joe fits that role better currently. The video of the youth players talking about who they look up to was the biggest selling point for me during pre-season. Pretty much all of them said Joe.

A terrific footballer and loves the club as well.

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Originally Posted by cameronw-hfc

As much as I rated Joe highly before this year, he's had a pretty outstanding season so far. Consistency was the one thing people would criticise him for, in my opinion he's been largely pretty good for the last 12 months now, bordering on exceptional this season so far.

From a boo boys target to a bona-fide fans favourite, some turn around for the guy.

Personally would like to see him have the armband permanently. I love Hanlon for all he's done for the club, but I think Joe fits that role better currently. The video of the youth players talking about who they look up to was the biggest selling point for me during pre-season. Pretty much all of them said Joe.

A terrific footballer and loves the club as well.

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Agreed, would love to see him lift a cup or 2

The heart of the team and the man who drives us on when we need it.

Week in week out one of the best players on the park.

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The heart of the team and the man who drives us on when we need it.

Week in week out one of the best players on the park.

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He’s been outstanding for a while now, he’s a proper leader on the park both in his own performance and in encouraging others.

He's been captain in all but name for a long while now. No surprise at all to see him with the armband the last few weeks and wouldn't shock me if if was made official next season.

Has really kicked on in the last year

Was outstanding again last night one 40 yard pass to Boyler’s chest second half was sublime

I always seen him as a bit of a show pony with inconsistency being a fault but I take my hat off to him and think he's now established as the team leader. He's been the best player for us for a good wee while mow, I'd happily make him captain.

Credit where it’s due, I’ve never been fully convinced previously, but he’s been good, and improved his consistency, for the last year or so.

Funnily enough, he has come 180 and gone from a target for criticism to one that now escapes criticism. On the back of the credit in the bank he has built up, which I never felt he had a whole lot of at any any set time previously, it must be said. He was poor, along with everyone else, the first 3 league games and second half v Killie, alongside the rest of the team. Yet would be wrong to hold that against him and he’s having a good season overall.

Think it was the St Johnstone game, in the second half he received the ball, spun, shrugged off the St Johnstone player and drove up the park. That’s always been one of my main criticisms of Newell and something he does a lot more the last year or so than previously.

First name on the team sheet, end off.

Never understood the negativity around him, no denying he was inconsistent for a bit, but on his game the best player at Hibs. First name on the team sheet now. That wee cameo last night where he ran the ball out of defence beating about 3 players to do it was sublime.

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Never understood the negativity around him, no denying he was inconsistent for a bit, but on his game the best player at Hibs. First name on the team sheet now. That wee cameo last night where he ran the ball out of defence beating about 3 players to do it was sublime.

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My biggest bugbear was his inconsistency and also thought his corners throw ins and free kicks were pretty shan by and large also his lack of goals 8:153 or something but did notice a wee variation in free kicks last night that I put down to Monty

Without a doubt he has improved

Seems to love life at Hibs. Could be a mainstay of our side for many years to come and rack up a big number of appearances. If he cotinues to perform to this standard then that would be no bad thing at all.

He's matured into a fine player. Playing some brilliant football this season just following on from last.

Never really been in doubt. Clear as soon as he switched to the middle how good he is.

First name on the teamsheet and an integral part of the team.

Only criticism I have of him is his penchant for giving away some needless fouls.

I never thought consistency was an issue for Newell. Granted he’d have the odd really good game but I thought the vast majority of the time his performances were fairly consistent, just not near the current level.

Over the course of the last year he’s really improved in my eyes and is contributing more than he ever has, playing the best football he has since he arrived.

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

My biggest bugbear was his inconsistency and also thought his corners throw ins and free kicks were pretty shan by and large also his lack of goals 8:153 or something but did notice a wee variation in free kicks last night that I put down to Monty

Without a doubt he has improved

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Bonus points for using “shan” in your post. Big fan of that, would read again.

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Bonus points for using “shan” in your post. Big fan of that, would read again.

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Lived and worked in Leith for 5 years Matty

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Great to see him being as effective as he is. He always had talent, but we never seemed to play in a way that supported his key attributes leading to critics of his work rate or lack of heart, when really he just had a lack of support. Now we're letting him dictate our play, and giving him the support of a strong defensive minded midfield colleague, we're definitely seeing the best of him.

I have a friend who’s a Leeds fan, and keeps an eye on us and he’s picked out Newell for a few weeks now. The guy is a machine ! And Jeggo helps his new role I think !

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My biggest bugbear was his inconsistency and also thought his corners throw ins and free kicks were pretty shan by and large also his lack of goals 8:153 or something but did notice a wee variation in free kicks last night that I put down to Monty

Without a doubt he has improved

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He doesn't need to score goals. If he never scored for us again, he'd still be our best player.

When is his contract up?

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He doesn't need to score goals. If he never scored for us again, he'd still be our best player.

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Aye ok

Said himself he knows it

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

My biggest bugbear was his inconsistency and also thought his corners throw ins and free kicks were pretty shan by and large also his lack of goals 8:153 or something but did notice a wee variation in free kicks last night that I put down to Monty

Without a doubt he has improved

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Don't think he's ever going to be a 10 a season player in all honesty, if you watch his cracking goal against Luzern Vente's lay off gave him no choice but to hit it first time and that undoubtedly helped. Generally his shooting ability is right up there with Dylan McGeouch's :greengrin

Goals from midfield are always welcome, but with the firepower we now have in the final 3rd hopefully that will be less of a requirement. If I have one worry over Newell it's burnout, as things stand he's undroppable but he has to work his proverbial socks off in every game in that 2 man midfield.

Montgomery expects 100% effort all the time, every time, and that's what you get from Joe Newell, but it would be some shift to play the full 90 minutes plus in every game of a long season, if Levitt can live up to the hype and either replace him or be subbed on for him in a few games and be just as effective it wouldn't be a bad thing for the team as a whole .... the least you could hope for for an outlay of three hundred thousand quid you would think.

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Don't think he's ever going to be a 10 a season player in all honesty, if you watch his cracking goal against Luzern Vente's lay off gave him no choice but to hit it first time and that undoubtedly helped. Generally his shooting ability is right up there with Dylan McGeouch's :greengrin

Goals from midfield are always welcome, but with the firepower we now have in the final 3rd hopefully that will be less of a requirement. If I have one worry over Newell it's burnout, as things stand he's undroppable but he has to work his proverbial socks off in every game in that 2 man midfield.

Montgomery expects 100% effort all the time, every time, and that's what you get from Joe Newell, but it would be some shift to play the full 90 minutes plus in every game of a long season, if Levitt can live up to the hype and either replace him or be subbed on for him in a few games and be just as effective it wouldn't be a bad thing for the team as a whole .... the least you could hope for for an outlay of three hundred thousand quid you would think.

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

Aye ok

Said himself he knows it

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Great.

He would still be our best player if he never scored again.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

Great.

He would still be our best player if he never scored again.

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If he keeps playing at the level he is playing just now every week he will be

A goal against Hearts would be nice though

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If he keeps playing at the level he is playing just now every week he will be

A goal against Hearts would be nice though

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Certainly would missed a glorious chance at Hearts last time we played there. His form is exceptional at the moment.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

Never really been in doubt. Clear as soon as he switched to the middle how good he is.

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This!

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Where’s that Loanhead Hibby charlatan when you’re looking for an up to date appraisal of JN? He’s been outstanding this season and I’m sure he’ll continue to prove his worth even more under NM as the season progresses. Disappointing that Joe has had quite a few detractors on here. Always been a quality player.

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Where’s that Loanhead Hibby charlatan when you’re looking for an up to date appraisal of JN? He’s been outstanding this season and I’m sure he’ll continue to prove his worth even more under NM as the season progresses. Disappointing that Joe has had quite a few detractors on here. Always been a quality player.

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Let’s not kid ourselves on he’s been playing at this level and some of us just didn’t notice, Joe showed how good he could be one game then went missing the next 5, I’m delighted he’s managed to find consistency in his game he’s been outstanding probably since the split last season and really pushed on this season again, well done to the guy he’s obviously been working hard been really impressive so far this season

I remember the horsing we took at Ibrox early in his time at the club. It was his first game there and he looked completely lost. He was hooked early and rightly so. After that game I genuinely wondered what we'd signed.

It's been a fair time now since he convinced me otherwise. He's got the ability to keep ball when all else is mental around him. He's physically strong and he's been very consistent for a sustained period now.

That afternoon at Ibrox seems a distant memory now.

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Let’s not kid ourselves on he’s been playing at this level and some of us just didn’t notice, Joe showed how good he could be one game then went missing the next 5, I’m delighted he’s managed to find consistency in his game he’s been outstanding probably since the split last season and really pushed on this season again, well done to the guy he’s obviously been working hard been really impressive so far this season

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He was easily our best player last season too.

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Originally Posted by flash

He was easily our best player last season too.

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He was easily our best player last season too.

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I thought the contribution Nisbet made last season saved us from a real struggle and we would have ended up anywhere from 7th down to 12th without it.

Newell, for me, really upped his performance levels towards the backend of the season and has continued that in to this season. He’s playing at a totally different level week in, week out than he has in the rest of his time at Hibs IMO. He looks really hungry and I don’t see his levels dropping any time soon.

Good player. One of the best midfielders in the league outside Celtic.

I think the better the team plays the better Newall plays/looks. Some midfielders need the players around him to be playing well for them to be at the top of their game because he needs players to move around/make space so he can make passes.

For a while Newall would get get ball look up and have nobody to pass to hence he would end up losing it or passing it backwards often. The stick wasnt always justified imo and was partly down to the tactics of previous managers.

So…..I’m was someone who criticised Newell and thought he was at the heart of the problems in our midfield and team in general.

No doubt on his day, he is great to watch and a great footballer.

The problem was, it was 1 game in 3 at best.

Now however, I’m happy to admit he has been one of the star performers and in a much improved and more confident team.

I must say I wasn’t a 100% LJ out man either until the very last game but after reading the Vente tactics interview and the vast improvement in the team, then I wonder how much LJ held us and Newell back.

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Bonus points for using “shan” in your post. Big fan of that, would read again.

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Yes but all those bonus points are recinded for using the word "thow-in" instead of "shy". If he'd said he had issues with Joe's Shan Shy's then he would have won a crackerjack pencil case !:greengrin

Joe is consistently excellent. Can tackle, pass, go by players with the ball and works hard. He loves the Hibs. Really don't understand those who moan about him these days. I accept he's not world class but he wouldn't be at Hibs if he was. No doubt in my mind, he's a player.

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Joe is consistently excellent. Can tackle, pass, go by players with the ball and works hard. He loves the Hibs. Really don't understand those who moan about him these days. I accept he's not world class but he wouldn't be at Hibs if he was. No doubt in my mind, he's a player.

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I don’t think there is much moaning about Newell just now. There is pretty much total agreement that he is playing very, very well just now.

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I thought the contribution Nisbet made last season saved us from a real struggle and we would have ended up anywhere from 7th down to 12th without it.

Newell, for me, really upped his performance levels towards the backend of the season and has continued that in to this season. He’s playing at a totally different level week in, week out than he has in the rest of his time at Hibs IMO. He looks really hungry and I don’t see his levels dropping any time soon.

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There’ll be folk along to tell us he’s always played like this but to put it simply, he hasn’t, he hasn’t performed anywhere near what he has for the past 6 months or so for the vast majority of his time at Hibs.

He’s been excellent for a good while now though.

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There’ll be folk along to tell us he’s always played like this but to put it simply, he hasn’t, he hasn’t performed anywhere near what he has for the past 6 months or so for the vast majority of his time at Hibs.

He’s been excellent for a good while now though.

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All about opinions, the last few months have definitely been his most consistent spell but I always thought his inconsistency was exaggerated quite a lot on here and made out to be a bigger problem that it actually was. Even when we were playing poorly he was still making plenty tackles and interceptions, always showing for the ball and rarely losing it.

He was hitting similar levels to his current from during our winning run in early autumn last season, and when we came third under jack Ross imo.

A lot of fans formed their opinion about Newell when he first came here and was played out of position by Heckingbottom, so looked a poor player.

It's taken until now for them to accept there is sufficient evidence that he is actually a good player.

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A lot of fans formed their opinion about Newell when he first came here and was played out of position by Heckingbottom, so looked a poor player.

It's taken until now for them to accept there is sufficient evidence that he is actually a good player.

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More simple than that IMO. There’s quite a number of people who simply think he’s playing better now than he ever has.

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A lot of fans formed their opinion about Newell when he first came here and was played out of position by Heckingbottom, so looked a poor player.

It's taken until now for them to accept there is sufficient evidence that he is actually a good player.

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But he wasn't, he came here after being played the majority of his time at Rotherham as a left side attacking midfielder, it was Newel himself who said he felt he played better through the middle, it's taken him a fair wee while to establish himself as a proper midfielder and a proper midfielder he is now.

I'm not sure why he got MotM today...didn't play badly but surely not MotM?

Jeggo beside him was more impactful IMHO...

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Originally Posted by B.H.F.C

I don’t think there is much moaning about Newell just now. There is pretty much total agreement that he is playing very, very well just now.

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There's always someone moaning about Joe. Old boy along from me on Wed night was dishing it out something rotten. Give it 5 mins and someone will be along to prove me right I'm sure. I am glad folk are giving plaudits now though.

Maybe not outstanding today. but did a lot of things right. I think he is a player.

With threads on Youan, Triantis & Levitt. Is it fair to talk about Newell as well? How many midfield combinations can he be part of that are dreadful, lose their battle and go into its shell at the first sign of adversary, but always able to play the “least of our problems” card?

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Originally Posted by The Modfather

With threads on Youan, Triantis & Levitt. Is it fair to talk about Newell as well? How many midfield combinations can he be part of that are dreadful, lose their battle and go into its shell at the first sign of adversary, but always able to play the “least of our problems” card?

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Absolutely humpty today.

Always someone else’s fault when it comes to Newell. Another who would be nowhere near a good Hibs team

Most overrated Hibs player ever.

Joe Newell has captained us most weeks this season. That says it all about why there is such a complete lack of leadership in this side.

Nice guy, on his day (which isn’t anywhere near enough) excellent, but it’s a really sad reflection on who we have in our squad when he’s viewed as the standout candidate for captain.

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With threads on Youan, Triantis & Levitt. Is it fair to talk about Newell as well? How many midfield combinations can he be part of that are dreadful, lose their battle and go into its shell at the first sign of adversary, but always able to play the “least of our problems” card?

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I'm sick of saying he's part of the problem, slows the game down with his first touch 99% of the time backwards.

Plays alongside the central defenders and plays it wide either way but rarely forward, with him on the ball the game becomes walking football, nowhere near urgent enough, but he does fight for the ball when we are defending and has nice hair.

Ever present in hopeless midfields over the past few years.

That he’s the least of our problems is the most damming indictment of the atrocious failure to fix the midfield problems.

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With threads on Youan, Triantis & Levitt. Is it fair to talk about Newell as well? How many midfield combinations can he be part of that are dreadful, lose their battle and go into its shell at the first sign of adversary, but always able to play the “least of our problems” card?

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I’ve generally defended Newell over the years, but like Doidge, he’s been part of an awful 5 year period. Massive underachievement.

I’d be happy to see the back of him, Hanlon, Lewis, Marshall. Most of the team basically.

Maybe only thing we can salvage this season, is giving Moriah-Welsh, Amos and Marcondes a run in the hope they (first 2 anyway) can be part of a longer term solution.

Summed up perfectly second half by doing the initial beating a man

Then thought he could just weave past another 2 in midfield and causes st Mirren counter

Another who’s time is probably close to being up

Roll Royce when we win, Vauxhall Corsa when we lose.

Today was a Corsa day, as are most days at the moment.

Newell has been poor but the system isn't helping , picking the ball up far to deep. Can't influence a game on the edge of your own box

He’s very overrated by our support.

Never a player good enough for a team going for top 3 or win a cup. He’s just very limited and goes missing when the going gets tough.

Was noticeable in the 1st half just how often he took the easy option and played back, rather than take the ball on the half turn and look for a pass forward.

I’m a big Joe Newell fan but his form the last two months has been appalling. A large part of that is probably the imposter he has playing next to him though.

Non trying show pony.

Newell looked good today compared to Levitt. And that's not meant as a compliment.

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Non trying show pony.

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Nonsense. I can't defend his overall performance today but he can never be accused of not trying.

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Was noticeable in the 1st half just how often he took the easy option and played back, rather than take the ball on the half turn and look for a pass forward.

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This whole team is going to hinge on players in his position who have the ability and desire to do that imo.

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Originally Posted by yerauldda

I’m a big Joe Newell fan but his form the last two months has been appalling. A large part of that is probably the imposter he has playing next to him though.

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With Newell it’s always the fault of his playing partner.


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Originally Posted by PH91

Nonsense. I can't defend his overall performance today but he can never be accused of not trying.

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Agree.

He was poor along with others, but you could see he was trying.

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Non trying show pony.

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I've said he was a show pony years ago, still think it. I do think he tries, but we dont need his type of player, we dont need midfielders taking the ball in the middle of the two central defenfers.

Our central defenders should be doing what he does, and get him tae **** either off the park or further up it.

He's one of the main reasons we are so pedestrian its criminal that several managers cant see it.

And to compound that, we've brought in someone else to play alongside him who's even slower.

Shambles.

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Nonsense. I can't defend his overall performance today but he can never be accused of not trying.

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Was he driving the team on? Was he bursting a gut? He was horrific and has been for months.

In his first year or so with us very few Hibs fans were impressed by him . As general standard of squad has dropped , he has gained more fans but I`m far from convinced he`s what we need .
Doesn`t seem to bring the best out of other players in the team and too many petty , unnecessary fouls . Not saying it`ll be easy to find someone better cause it won`t be but if we`re to improve next season we need better in midfield . Maybe not more talented but someone who works better with rest of the team .

Expect to take pelters for this but honestly thought he was least of our problems today.

In the first half especially looked like our only player that cared, put in a few excellent tackles and tried to drive forward and make things happen when space opened up a couple of times

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I'm sick of saying he's part of the problem, slows the game down with his first touch 99% of the time backwards.

Plays alongside the central defenders and plays it wide either way but rarely forward, with him on the ball the game becomes walking football, nowhere near urgent enough, but he does fight for the ball when we are defending and has nice hair.

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He does that dropping in to get the ball thing to try and give the impression that he’s trying to get on it and make things happen. When, in actual fact, he’s not got the balls to go and do it where it actually matters.

I actually thought he was our best player today. I might be on my own here 😂

I thought he should have been binned when done for drink driving.
Good on his day (but then who isn’t and the days are few and far between this season) but the constant denominator in poor midfields, no matter the system

Brutal today brutal last week until he scored, every pass backwards sane as Levitt they hide during games and pass the buck defenders to create something

I'm not a fan of newell. He gives away silly fouls every game, the first goal being a prime example of that. He doesn't drive forward nearly as much as he could or rather should. All too often he slows the play down or just passes it backwards when he could turn and play forwards. It's been said earlier thats he's overrated by our support and this is true. Only seems to play well when we are winning or in control of a game.

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I'm not a fan of newell. He gives away silly fouls every game, the first goal being a prime example of that. He doesn't drive forward nearly as much as he could or rather should. All too often he slows the play down or just passes it backwards when he could turn and play forwards. It's been said earlier thats he's overrated by our support and this is true. Only seems to play well when we are winning or in control of a game.

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Newell has lots to offer a good midfield, but he shouldn't be the fulcrum of a midfield. I really like Joe, think he has good ball winning skills, but he needs someone close to give the ball to who WILL drive on. That isn't Newell's natural game. I'd have him as a defensive mid - regain, control, recycle. One of the few guys that loves pulling on a Hibs jersey.

JN can gtf as far as I’m concerned, and take more than a few of his teammates with him.

Thought he’d turned a corner with the Luzerne matches, but he’s regressed back to being as pathetic as ever. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out

It’s a measure of where we are that he’s the current captain.

We’ve had dozens of worse players than him but he simply doesn’t do enough. He usually takes the safe option when he gets the ball, he couldn’t tackle a fish supper and hardly scores or creates any goals.

It would be unfair to blame all our recent managerial failures solely on him but it’s telling that’s he’s one of the common denominators.

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Originally Posted by VoltaireHibs

Newell has lots to offer a good midfield, but he shouldn't be the fulcrum of a midfield. I really like Joe, think he has good ball winning skills, but he needs someone close to give the ball to who WILL drive on. That isn't Newell's natural game. I'd have him as a defensive mid - regain, control, recycle. One of the few guys that loves pulling on a Hibs jersey.

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Good post. He’d be one of the few players id keep from the current team.

New Hanlon/Stevenson being the scapegoat, a lot of other issues rather than Newell being the problem

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Originally Posted by Jones28

Roll Royce when we win, Vauxhall Corsa when we lose.

Today was a Corsa day, as are most days at the moment.

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One of far too many of those days unfortunately.

I don’t think a team where newell is our best midfielder, (and he is by some distance) is ever going to be good enough for where we want to be.

Having said that, he was our best performer, albeit in a horrible team and is absolutely the least of our worries. Levitt is much worse and both have been hung out to dry with monty’s ***** formation and tactics.

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Expect to take pelters for this but honestly thought he was least of our problems today.

In the first half especially looked like our only player that cared, put in a few excellent tackles and tried to drive forward and make things happen when space opened up a couple of times

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I agree.

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Originally Posted by VoltaireHibs

Newell has lots to offer a good midfield, but he shouldn't be the fulcrum of a midfield. I really like Joe, think he has good ball winning skills, but he needs someone close to give the ball to who WILL drive on. That isn't Newell's natural game. I'd have him as a defensive mid - regain, control, recycle. One of the few guys that loves pulling on a Hibs jersey.

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Agree. He needs a mcginn/docherty/Allan Campbell type with pace, energy and drive. Him and levitt are far too similar and playing them both in a 2 in the centre is asking for trouble.

He only seems to play well when we've got a bit of momentum and the crowd is behind us. He as good as admitted that in an interview after the Luzern game. I agree the formation and having such a chicken hearted partner does him no favours though.

He’s the least of our worries.

Newell is everything that is wrong with Hibs , came in with Heckingbottom and couldn’t get a game to start with .
Gives away stupid fouls usually ends up being booked . Has had contract after contract .
Gets sent off in a Scottish Cup semi final against our biggest rivals for 2 bookings and then Maloney / him say he doesn’t have to apologise to the fans
Now he is our captain , he would be lucky to get in any of the bottom 6 teams in the top flight.
One of the 1st out the door for me.

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He’s the least of our worries.

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We need better than Newell.

Maybe we should forget about spending 3/4 million quid on infrastructure and maybe get a wee bit quality on the park before they chase anymore supporters away.

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We need better than Newell.

Maybe we should forget about spending 3/4 million quid on infrastructure and maybe get a wee bit quality on the park before they chase anymore supporters away.

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Better than newell?

We need better in a number of areas before we look at him in my opinion.

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Better than newell?

We need better in a number of areas before we look at him in my opinion.

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Absolutely. A team full of sub standard players, played out of position in a static formation and some are going for Newell?? Bonkers.

He is our one guy who cares, currently being thrown under the bus in a DCM position with rigid instructions. Under Johnson he was one of the best players in the league.

Seems like the mess our board have created right now is a green light for our long term Newell haters.

Newell was our best player yesterday. Least of our problems.

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Absolutely. A team full of sub standard players, played out of position in a static formation and some are going for Newell?? Bonkers.

He is our one guy who cares, currently being thrown under the bus in a DCM position with rigid instructions. Under Johnson he was one of the best players in the league.

Seems like the mess our board have created right now is a green light for our long term Newell haters.

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If we are buying better than newell and I see those types of performances every week that are way better than newell we will have certainly kicked on as a club.

Until then I’d rather address way more pressing areas of the pitch.

Imagine having to play against an opposition midfield 3 with Dylan Levitt every week.

I don’t think Newells as good as some people think he is but we have far bigger issues than him just now.

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Newell was our best player yesterday. Least of our problems.

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Yup…

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Better than newell?

We need better in a number of areas before we look at him in my opinion.

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I wouldn’t argue with that. I was giving my opinion on his attributes or lack of. I always think we can aim for a better standard and if he’s our best player then we need to bring in better players

When Monty is most likely sacked then Newell will have seen 5 managers leave us. People are questioning Kensall and saying he should go based on 3 failed managers under his watch, I’d argue Newell has to go aswell then using a similar logic. He may well be a lovely guy and has had some excellent performances but he’s also had far more average to non existent performances. We need players to show up now that going is getting tough (yet again) and I have little faith in him to do so.