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So our allocation has been cut. Doncaster has stated we will get more if we sell out. So let’s do it and do it fast. I often see gigs and events supposedly selling in less than 30mins. If we can do likewise, it makes a mockery of the decision…if we don’t (despite the sporting integrity stuff), it simply plays into the leagues narrative and decision making.
Ron asked on the Strong Opinion Hibs pod for fans to attend; let’s give him his wish. He has pony upped for us. Let’s do the same for him.
Doncaster hasn't said how many more, it will probably be a couple of hundred.Quote:
Originally Posted by St.Kristopher
Yup...lets sell out though.
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Originally Posted by St.Kristopher
I don't think theres any danger of us not selling out. If its 2 per season ticket holder (which has been suggested it may be on here but not confirmed) then we will likely sell these out on the first day of sales and if not then the second day.
They can't have 2 per season ticket holder as the allocation is not big enough for everyone to get two?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
17500 tickets? I think it'll be more a case of people missing out than us not selling out!
That is impossible due to our ST numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
On present ticket allocation, it is 1 per ST and the remainder on public sale.
Would they guarantee x1 per ST holder then have a ballot if ST holders wanted x2 tickets ?
Plus not every ST holder would want x2 tickets.
Meaning some who went sunday may miss out? One per season ticket and then a public sale is the fair wayQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenCastle
This is the first time I’m genuinely concerned about not getting a ticket. Thanks Neil.
Season ticket x 1 then public sale/ballot is only way to do this.
Unfortunately so many regular attendees (this season and historic) are going to miss out.
It's an absolute disgrace
Edit: maybe you could do those who have bought a ticket to ER this season first?? (I have a season ticket btw)
It’s two per season ticket
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How can it be season ticket holders will miss out?Quote:
Originally Posted by TamHibs
Announcement from the club should be today or tomorrow but it’s 100% two per season ticketQuote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
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Huge own goal from the club thenQuote:
Originally Posted by TamHibs
How can it possibly be two per season ticket? That means actual season ticket holders will miss out if they are not quick off the mark.
One per season ticket holder, then one per non season ticket holder who attended on Sunday. Any left then public sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Marvin
We have been allocated 17500 tickets.Quote:
Originally Posted by TamHibs
We have 11000 ST holders
2 x STs is 22000
While I wont disagree with your confidence in this announcement, just how does that arithmetic add up?
I don’t know the ins and outs of the thinking behind the decision, I just know it’ll be two per STQuote:
Originally Posted by green day
Our away season ticket payments are getting taken today and the club usually make the announcements for the season ticket holder sales the same day/day after
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Not every ST will take a ticket, and not all of those that do will take 2 tickets. I think we'd be safe enough promising each ST holder 2 tickets but I still think it'll be 1 per ST holder.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Why were AST not allowed 2 as well Tam, we were told we weren’t allowed to even add a season ticket holder to our ticketsQuote:
Originally Posted by TamHibs
I think that’s more to do with how the AST scheme works, we weren’t allowed to add anyone for the semi final either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Basically when the ST holder sale starts I’ll still be able to buy one more ticket if I wanted it as one will already be used in the AST
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But if 7,000 take up two tickets, that leaves 3,500 tickets for 4,000 season ticket holders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gloucester Hibs
I'm thinking if Hibs are doing this they will have good data on cup final ticket uptake for ST holders to have arrived at this decision. Like I said though I still think it'll be 1 per ST.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
It's not going to be 2 per season ticket. It literally makes zero sense.
If it is two per season ticket this is a major balls up on commercial dept of the club.
1 per current season ticket then anyone buying a Half Season ticket should then be eligible for a ticket.
Sell as many ST as possible.
I’ll personally be very happy with that. But it makes no sense at all and I will fully understand the rage that will follow.
What if you dont get a ticket because another ST holder has bought two?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
Couldn’t see any logic for having 2 tickets each for STs unless they are trying to make some sort of point to Doncaster about how quickly we can sell out 17500.
I think they would be ok numbers wise in terms of all STs getting a ticket but certainly cutting it a bit fine. It would put the walk up who doesn’t know any ST holders in a terrible position. Maybe the club will market it as some sort of thank you for buying an ST last season without seeing a game.
Either way if it’s true it seems an unnecessary gamble and will be leaving a lot of supporters peed off and other ST holders needlessly worried until they have their ticket secured.
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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
11,000 season tickets holders; two each
17,500 tickets available
Can you see the problem?
2 things I think about this.
1 - Hibs will have solid historical data on what % of STs take-up the 2 tickets.
2 - If it sells out without every ST getting a ticket, it plays perfectly into the unfair ticket split by the SPFL.
It’s mathematically impossible to get that number of fans in to the stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by TamHibs
If Hibs do make it two per ST and people miss out it will be an own goal by the club. There’s no argument around that.Quote:
Originally Posted by evy
Easy solution though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
ST holders get the chance to buy two tickets until 11,000 tickets have been sold. Thereafter ST holders can only buy one. When deadline date passes, what is left goes on publlc sale, so the slow-to-react ST holders get their chance to buy a second ticket.
Ideally, those who attended the SF would get priority over those who have attended a few matches at ER this season who in turn would get priority over folk who have not been to a game at all this season, but how many priorities and deadlines can you have?
I don't disagree, but it will play into the narrative of it being unfair. Hibs need to balance appeasing everyone whilst standing firm that the quantity of tickets allocated isn't enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
We wouldn't be having this conversation if we got a 50/50 split...
No you’re right, we wouldn’t. I just don’t think the club would risk upsetting season ticket holders by making a decision that wouldn’t guarantee them a ticket. If I was a season ticket holder and not guaranteed a seat at a national final I’d be pissed off, and it contradicts the policies the club has had in place for as long as I can remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by evy
Just had a though, could be that the poster saying it'll be 2 due to their AST is just that. They're guaranteed 1 as an ST and another as an AST. Just trying to work out why or how it'd be the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Any chance of a Black Friday deal on season tickets? :greengrin
I can’t remember the last time we failed to sell 50% of Hampden for a cup final, this should be easy.
I have a feeling they will continue to push the importance of a ST holder. They maybe thinking ahead to next year and making it clear ST holders give best chance to attend higher profile games.
Every ST holder is guaranteed a ticket = everyone who has a ST happy and AST is happy.
But then if you are a ST / AST and want another ticket you go into a ballot and see if you get one possibly.
I still feel folk who attended semi final should get a chance to buy tickets also for this.
Club reward points system anyone? !!
If they wanted to be really controversial they could offer x2 for Gold ST holders and x1 for silver and Bronze ST holders.
I think and expect it to be 1 per season ticket but there will be a number of season ticket holders who can’t/won’t go and not all will purchase 2 tickets. Where I do see the problem is season ticket holders missing out on the preferred seats if they go with 2 per season ticket.
I’ll be quick. 😂. As I say I think it’s a mental decision. Lots of people that went to the semi will prob miss out.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
You would that would make more sense to tie half seasons to a cup final ticket perfect time to do so. 2 per season makes little commercial or goodwill sense from our core fan base some of whom could miss out after being season ticket holders for years. Genuinely hope they consider this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim Shady
Hibs announce its 1 per season ticket - folk moan
Hibs announce its 2 per season ticket - folk moan
I think folk are getting worked up over nothing. I’m pretty certain that after a week of sales there will still be tickets available.
Yes we sold out in 2016 but if memory serves me correctly we sold the last of our tickets literally days before the final.
Edit - yep, we sold out the Wednesday before the final.
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The numbers sit perfectly for timing half season tickets to get final ticket makes no sense not to do this imo.
I get the half season ticket thing...you could possibly shift a good few.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Will they go as far as try get folk thinking about ST for next season though - say 25% or 50% deposit for a ST for next season and you get a cup final ticket. Yes a lot to ask for many just before Christmas also but some may be tempted.
The club will want to make serious ££ off this final after the Covid no fans season.
Season ticket holders get 1 each, any non season ticket holder with a stub for the semi final gets 1 and the rest go to public sale, it's a no brainer. Any other solution is unfair imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Potty78
AST's shouldn't be anywhere in the equation and the club will be going down a slippery slope if they go with that one.
Maybe hibs think they’ll get north stand tickets if we sell our allocation really quickly. 2 per season ticket will help that happen and give us time to sell any extra tickets we get.
There are 3 season ticket holders in my group, I would like to be able to get another ticket for my daughter who doesn’t get to many games now for family reasons, we would only want the one extra, so there is 2 spare in this one transaction if you know what I mean. I don’t think every season ticket holder will take the extra one. But in all honesty, all the fans who were at Sunday’s semi, and gave the boys fantastic backing deserve, even if they aren’t season ticket holders, to be at this final ! 👍 ggtth.
Of course they should. They will get 1 ticket through being part of the AST scheme. All of them are also full season ticket holders so don’t see your issueQuote:
Originally Posted by Crunchie
And it’s already been confirmed with payments for AST being taken today
I will be pretty disappointed if they go through with this idea but don't give priority to fans like me who baught a several game package and although not Hibs fault but costs me £100.00 plus to attend every game.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenCastle
Celtic will likely start selling the North the same time as us so once that happens we aren't getting any seats in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
Hibs won't be getting any pitch side seats in the North Stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
This is not changing.
Celtic have been given Full North Stand - sections - C and D.
Hibs section goes round to B8.
As long as they don't get 2, I maybe worded it wrongly.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys
Listening to Ben talk on the podcast and the increase in walk up prices - it seems all to be heading towards increasing ST sales in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by HH81
I think they will continue to do ticket bundles in future but got a feeling walk ups make it very hard for the club to plan for future finances / budgets.
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Originally Posted by Steven79
Maybe they’ve been told to sell from the other side just in case. They can sell the east and half the north and that would leave the door open for us to get more tickets.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenCastle
We won’t get any North Stand ticketsQuote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
According to Doncaster's reply to folk emailing him, the configuration of the north stand means it can only be split 50/50 or 100/0 for segregation. The way the splits are done seems to prioritise being able to sell the best seats first, so I can't see north stand seats being held back.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
Which is utter mince as they could surely put a barrier up at the back and stewards down between the fans like they did between the Hibs & Rangers fans on Sunday in the East?Quote:
Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish
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Originally Posted by Jones28
Whilst I agree with that but with 17,500 tickets fans would still miss out albeit all ST holders would get one.
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Originally Posted by TamHibs
This is what I said could be the case yesterday going by the AST email but as usual I was shouted down.
What if the first 8,750 season ticket holders all take 2? Then you've got circa 3,000 season ticket holders missing out, not to mention no public sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
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Originally Posted by Jones28
Its a big what if though isn't it. I'm confident every season ticket holder who wants one will get one.
I hope you're right HC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
I'm not a season ticket holder, with 2 young kids it's not something I'm in a position to do at the moment, so I can have no complaints if I don't get a ticket! I would really feel for a season ticket holder if they missed out though.
You said ast could get 2, but they can’tQuote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
Why would they not? We have way more tickets available than ST holders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
Really can’t believe that ST holders will be able to buy two per ST. Makes no sense at all.
Surely some misinformation.
All ifs and buts. Let's wait and see. I am still recovering from the £60 per ticket false info.
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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Nah I never, I said the email suggests if you opt out you'd be able to buy more than one. The email clearly says that no additional tickets can be added to the AST but you can opt out if you'd like to purchase additional tickets.
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Originally Posted by J.S
I was meaning if it is two per season ticket.
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Originally Posted by evy
Well unless they've got a giant ar5e and literally need two seats to fit it in, then one should be enough
As I said earlier I think we’ll be fine. I think out of the 12-13 season ticket holders in our group, hardly any will be taking up 2 tickets.
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Won't it mean that you can buy them for fellow season ticket holders around you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
Still shouldn’t be allowed to happen though CallumQuote:
Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw
Thing is Billy, the club can’t win. In the past they’ve been moaned at for making it 1 per ticket as it’s harder for folk to buy in groups. With quite a short window to get the tickets sold and distributed, they are probably very comfortable that previous sales patterns mean all season ticket holders will be covered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
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Callum, the club can win. Surely a season ticket holder should be able to buy a seat before non season ticket holderQuote:
Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw
Plenty of time to sell tickets to Hibs fans
It can't be. There potentially won't be enough for season ticket holders and after blindly throwing money at them knowing we wouldn't see a game last season I'd be very disappointed if they did that. ST holders who want to sit with non st holders still can, they just need to wait for the public sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw
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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Why not? You want additional tickets added to your AST yesterday? :confused:
For 5 season ticket holders which I sit beside, including 2 young lads who are only be able to go if they come along and sit with meQuote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
Is that ok
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Originally Posted by adam middlemass
I'm the same as you :greengrin not every ticket holder will take two tickets there will be some left over afterwards I bet.
Pretending to know what you are talking about again I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
Doncaster has stated that Hibs will not be getting tickets in the North under any circumstances.
And if there isn't season ticket holders will miss out. Too big a risk.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaz1875
They could offer 2 per season ticket subject to availability on the extra tickets, there will still be plenty to go around. Not every season holder will be going (I know a couple) and not every season ticket holder needs an extra ticket. With the ticket prices so high its not like people will buy tickets just in case a mate was thinking of going, like I did for the semi final.
2 per season ticket holder is fine. Every season ticket holder didn’t even go to the semi final, so I doubt every season ticket holder plus an extra person will go. Even with season ticket holders being able to buy 2 tickets, I predict there will still be a general sale at some point.
Well obviously not as Hibs said no. :greengrin:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
I see self interest and in fighting has begun after the moral high ground of the last few days.
If season ticket holders are offered 2 tickets, which we shouldn't be, I hereby promise to pass my second ticket on to a deserving good Hibby who I don't currently know and who I am not related to. Will you do the same?
I hope we sell out now or going to look rather silly
Nobody is going to miss out. If you want a ticket you will get one, whether it is one or two per season ticket holder. And it quite rightly promotes selling tickets early, and allowing non-st holders to sit with their season ticket holders friends/family.
Who are you asking?Quote:
Originally Posted by CMurdoch
Strange question anyway. ST holders will either be buying a 2nd ticket for a deserving good Hibby or won't bother to buy a 2nd ticket, in which case a deserving good Hibby will be able to buy it. No need to take it and pass it on to one they don't know.
I am pretty sure there was a Rangers fan a few seats on from me on Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
They never celebrated any of the goals and disappeared for large parts of the game.
Be careful if anyone is giving tickets away but if they are I will take one 😁.
Asking folk who post on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
An example of the top of my head of folk who won't get tickets are regular posters on here who live down south and who go to great lengths to attend Hibs games but who for obvious reasons don't have season tickets.
IMO they are more deserving of your 2nd cup final ticket than Hibs fans aunty Janet, cousin Alan or your mate Bob that generally only go to cup finals and games against Hearts.
My sister's only been to one game this season... the semi-final on Sunday.
So she's either
a) A total glory hunter and doesn't deserve a ticket for the final
b) One of our hard-core supporters that actually attended on Sunday and showed up our fair weather fans
I'll need to decide which of the two categories she's in if we get two tickets per ST holder
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When the number of tickets available is limited then ST holders should be guaranteed their ticket. That's always bee one of the big selling points when buying a ST, whether it is the primary reasons is largely irrelevant. Based on our allocation and number of ST holders than means 1 per ST.
If ST holders want to sit in a group with mates then they are welcome to take the risk of waiting for a general public sale. If they miss out at that point then the blame lies with them.
If the club offer 2 per ST holder and ST holders fail to secure tickets then they leave themselves open to all kinds of justified criticism. Regardless of how unlikely it is it is madness to even consider taking the risk, it's something that could backfire spectacularly. It's not even about ST holders missing out, it will just lead to an almighty scramble as soon as tickets go on sale and put huge stresses on the ticket office and systems that could easily be avoided.
I said maybe. That clearly implies that I was putting it out as something that could be a potential possibility. I wasn’t pretending to know anything. You are a really strange individual.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMurdoch
I don't think we have a "Right" way to do things as many season ticket holders won't want to go if they can't bring their son/daughter along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
If we had been given even 22,00/23,000 tickets then it would be so much easier to organise we gets what as I wouldn't like to be making this choice.
It's tricky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven79
There have been finals at which we have had the 22/23K tickets and only given ST holders 1 initially. When demand is likely to exceed supply would seem a strange time to start opening the club up to the risk of ST holders missing out and the inevitable backlash that comes with that.
Wonder if Hibs will do a beam back to ER for the final.
That could be tricky with it being Premier Sports, but I think the demand would be there from our supporters - it would be great if you could take a carry out with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
But it isn't a possibility, potentially or otherwise. Doncaster made that very clear yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
As for your character assasination, that is just pathetic.