Griffiths charged with reckless conduct.

https://news.stv.tv/north/leigh-grif...b-incident?top

For me, that's a ****ing joke.

Looked to me like he just kicked it off the pitch.

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

For me, that's a ****ing joke.

Looked to me like he just kicked it off the pitch.

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He launched it into the middle of the stand.

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

For me, that's a ****ing joke.

Looked to me like he just kicked it off the pitch.

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I think he knew fine where he was putting it. He could have easily side footed it onto the track.

Not that I don't sympathise given the abuse he would have been getting.

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

For me, that's a ****ing joke.

Looked to me like he just kicked it off the pitch.

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You’ve not seen the video?

Reckless is exactly what it was and I can’t think of any otter player who’d have done that.

Sign him up 😂

Guys a liability and folk are only going to get onto him even more now because they know he’ll react.

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

For me, that's a ****ing joke.

Looked to me like he just kicked it off the pitch.

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Into a stand with people in it.

He’s a ****ing moron.

What a totally overblown incident

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

For me, that's a ****ing joke.

Looked to me like he just kicked it off the pitch.

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Smashed it deep into the away end. Daftie of a guy.

That's Griffiths for you, I don't think he will ever learn?
Gets a chance at another club yet again, and then does something stupid?
We may have dodged a bullet not trying to bring him back???

Ah, Leigh.

Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of the "younger lady incident" he was always going to take pelters for it, which was always going to require a lot of restraint from him to repeatedly walk away from.

Taken against his recent and not-so-recent history of being in bother meant that it was a certainty that he was going to continue to get into trouble going forward.

His signing was always going to be a risky one for whoever took him on, one that might have worked out beautifully had he managed to understand the meaning of "last chance" but he's not shown any signs of learning that at any other time, so why now?

I'm glad we didn't take him on and felt that it was a risk not worth taking as this (and more trouble still further down the line) was inevitable.

We're short enough on cover to be relying on that dafty for anything.

If we were even considering it (as had been reported) then that might be considered an error of judgment on Mathie's part suggesting that he may have lost the plot and was panicking.

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Originally Posted by Shrekko

You’ve not seen the video?

Reckless is exactly what it was and I can’t think of any otter player who’d have done that.

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No I've not seen the video.

As I said I thought he just kicked it off the side of the pitch.

I'll google it.

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

For me, that's a ****ing joke.

Looked to me like he just kicked it off the pitch.

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He reacted to the paedo chants and booted it in to the crowd, he shouldn’t have been anywhere near the flare.

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Originally Posted by 660

What a totally overblown incident

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I agree.

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

For me, that's a ****ing joke.

Looked to me like he just kicked it off the pitch.

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Where have you seen this?

He wellies it right into the stand at the fans chanting peado at him. Clear as day his intention wasn’t just to remove it from the pitch.

I'm no fan of him at all but he didn't launch it into the stand. He launched it BACK into the stand. I assume the saints fan who snuck it in was also charged?

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

No I've not seen the video.

As I said I thought he just kicked it off the side of the pitch.

I'll google it.

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So it ‘looked’ to you like he just kicked it off the side of the pitch, but you haven’t seen it?

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Originally Posted by hibee1875

Where have you seen this?

He wellies it right into the stand at the fans chanting peado at him. Clear as day his intention wasn’t just to remove it from the pitch.

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I've looked and can't see any conclusive footage of the flare landing in the stand.

I genuinely thought he'd just booted it off the pitch but, hey, if he's booted in to the stand then he should be locked up for at least 5 to 10 years.

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Originally Posted by DiscoDoidge

So it ‘looked’ to you like he just kicked it off the side of the pitch, but you haven’t seen it?

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I saw it during the game and didn't think it went anywhere near the stand at that time and, for what it's worth, am still not sure that it does make it in to the stand.

Perhaps you could provide some conclusive proof?

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

I saw it during the game and didn't think it went anywhere near the stand at that time and, for what it's worth, am still not sure that it does make it in to the stand.

Perhaps you could provide some conclusive proof?

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https://twitter.com/RitchieMulligan/...795416068?s=19

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Originally Posted by JohnM1875

https://twitter.com/RitchieMulligan/status/1440776153795416068?s=19

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Your link isn't working

Just watched it online. No way can it be considerrd trying to simply get it off the pitch, full pelt into the stand, wont have a leg to stand on in front of the beaks, both courts and football authorities. Good knows what McPake must be thinking.

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

Your link isn't working

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It is.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

I'm no fan of him at all but he didn't launch it into the stand. He launched it BACK into the stand. I assume the saints fan who snuck it in was also charged?

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That’s a different matter and you’d hope so.

It isn’t a justification for putting it back in there though. He is putting at risk other fans who had nothing to do with it getting there.

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

I saw it during the game and didn't think it went anywhere near the stand at that time and, for what it's worth, am still not sure that it does make it in to the stand.

Perhaps you could provide some conclusive proof?

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Guy is an absolute clown, but some would defend him for almost anything, despite all evidence.

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Originally Posted by Peevemor

I think he knew fine where he was putting it. He could have easily side footed it onto the track.

Not that I don't sympathise given the abuse he would have been getting.

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If he didn’t want the abuse he’s getting he probably should’ve thought about his actions that have led to it

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Originally Posted by JohnM1875

It is.

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It is now, wasn't earlier.

I was wrong, he doesn't just kick it off the pitch but, after watching that, I'm still not sure that is troubling anybody or if the flare even makes the stand?

I'm not surprised he's been charged, absolutely idiotic thing to do which could have had serious consequences.

I'm absolutely delighted we didn't go near him.

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

It is now, wasn't earlier.

I was wrong, he doesn't just kick it off the pitch but, after watching that, I'm still not sure that is troubling anybody or if the flare even makes the stand?

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Aye I know sorry, I had to edit the original to make the link work.

Think it definitely lands in the stand and he clearly means it. If he didn't he'd have stopped and apologised. Instead he just runs away.

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

It is now, wasn't earlier.

I was wrong, he doesn't just kick it off the pitch but, after watching that, I'm still not sure that is troubling anybody or if the flare even makes the stand?

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He is clearly attempting to smack that into the crowd.

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Originally Posted by Andy74

That’s a different matter and you’d hope so.

It isn’t a justification for putting it back in there though. He is putting at risk other fans who had nothing to do with it getting there.

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I agree yeah. But everyone is after Griffiths , when the idiot who brought it is also putting fellow fans at risk.

Ultimately, no flare, no problem.

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

Your link isn't working

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Working for me and it lands in the middle of the stand

Clear as day he's intentionally punted it right back into the stand. Obviously a flare should never have been thrown in the first place but he can't go about acting like that, could have seriously injured someone. Reckless conduct.

We can save him :boo hoo:

What an idiot.

I think he's finished as a top level player. He'll be banned for atleast 3 games and who knows if he'll even get back in the team.

What about the moron who chucked it on the pitch in the first place?
Serves the sods right in my view.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

I agree yeah. But everyone is after Griffiths , when the idiot who brought it is also putting fellow fans at risk.

Ultimately, no flare, no problem.

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But that’s not Griffiths’ problem. He wouldn’t have been anywhere near it when it was thrown, so why’s he ran over to boot it into the crowd? Totally mental

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Originally Posted by heretoday

What about the moron who chucked it on the pitch in the first place?
Serves the sods right in my view.

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What a moronic comment.
Was he aiming for said individual, so its all ok?

It was idiotic, he knew what he was doing, it went into the crowd, he could easily have kicked it into the side.

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Originally Posted by davhibby

But that’s not Griffiths’ problem. He wouldn’t have been anywhere near it when it was thrown, so why’s he ran over to boot it into the crowd? Totally mental

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Because he's got the IQ of a toothbrush

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Originally Posted by heretoday

What about the moron who chucked it on the pitch in the first place?
Serves the sods right in my view.

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If he knew who exactly chucked it in the first place, then managed to actually hit them with his swipe you might have a point.

The chances of that happening are miniscule though. He is 99% more likely to have hit an innocent bystander.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

What an idiot.

I think he's finished as a top level player. He'll be banned for atleast 3 games and who knows if he'll even get back in the team.

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I think he'll get a bit more of a lengthy ban tbh. Does himself no favours

Have to say I find LG's antics utterly depressing.

He's a fantastic talent both as a player and goalscorer, but he's just constantly shooting himself in the foot.

I'd love to see Leigh proving everyone wrong and starting to bang in the goals again, but he seems to be on a self-destruct mission.

So sad.

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Originally Posted by Devonhibs

Just watched it online. No way can it be considerrd trying to simply get it off the pitch, full pelt into the stand, wont have a leg to stand on in front of the beaks, both courts and football authorities. Good knows what McPake must be thinking.

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McPake will be thinking of how he can cancel the loan deal, Cummings can’t be a happy chappy stuck on the bench, Griffiths has now shown he can’t cope with the paedo chants and is a risk in front of any opposition fans, back to Celtc must be on the cards for him.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

I agree yeah. But everyone is after Griffiths , when the idiot who brought it is also putting fellow fans at risk.

Ultimately, no flare, no problem.

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Yeah, but he's going to have to get used to walking away from all sorts of unacceptable stuff.

It doesn't need to be fair or right - he just needs to know to walk away, which he's incapable of doing.

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Originally Posted by heretoday

What about the moron who chucked it on the pitch in the first place?
Serves the sods right in my view.

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And if it had a child? Or and elderly person? Or indeed any one of the hundreds of others who didn’t throw it? Is it still the fault of the flare thrower or is it the fault of the ****wit who booted it in to a crowd of people?

he obviously cracked after the "paedo" chants



somewhere in perth today there's grown men giggling away because their infantile, and ignorant use of that word, got to someone

maybe some education needed for the dafties as well


because he reacted in that manner he's bound to realise fans of other clubs will now target him with that chant, he's going to somehow have to deal with that and learn quickly to ignore it, the infantiles will eventually realise how embarrassed they should be in calling someone a "paedo" when i doubt very much he has any sexual interests in children

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Originally Posted by allmodcons

It is now, wasn't earlier.

I was wrong, he doesn't just kick it off the pitch but, after watching that, I'm still not sure that is troubling anybody or if the flare even makes the stand?

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According to the steward we were talking to at Tannadice last night who had also worked at the Dundee-Saints game it certainly did make it back in to the stand.

There comes a point in time where you just have to admit the guy is a dick.

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Originally Posted by Since452

There comes a point in time where you just have to admit the guy is a dick.

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“But he should have been our dick”. There are still Hibs fans who feel like that.

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Originally Posted by Since452

There comes a point in time where you just have to admit the guy is a dick.

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Aye about 5 year ago. Mental that there's some who still refuse to see it. Guy's a roaster

Stupid. Imagine a fan getting burnt by a flare when they had nothing to do it with ending up on the pitch? Absolute idiocy from Griffiths.

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Originally Posted by Smartie

Yeah, but he's going to have to get used to walking away from all sorts of unacceptable stuff.

It doesn't need to be fair or right - he just needs to know to walk away, which he's incapable of doing.

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You are right there. Have to say, I'm absolutely delighted he isn't a Hibs player.

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Originally Posted by mcohibs

Because he's got the IQ of a toothbrush

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My toothbrush is very intelligent, it's a Wisdom.

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

he obviously cracked after the "paedo" chants



somewhere in perth today there's grown men giggling away because their infantile, and ignorant use of that word, got to someone

maybe some education needed for the dafties as well


because he reacted in that manner he's bound to realise fans of other clubs will now target him with that chant, he's going to somehow have to deal with that and learn quickly to ignore it, the infantiles will eventually realise how embarrassed they should be in calling someone a "paedo" when i doubt very much he has any sexual interests in children

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The words flung about left right and centre at multiple clubs in Scotland by people with very little understanding of these chants and actions towards innocent people, for someone with mental health problems it will be difficult to deal With, it's only a matter of time before a player may be effected beyond help.

It was a flare up

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Originally Posted by Baader

Stupid. Imagine a fan getting burnt by a flare when they had nothing to do it with ending up on the pitch? Absolute idiocy from Griffiths.

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And idiocy from the Hibs 'supporter' who throw the smoke bomb onto the pitch last night at Tannadice.

Can we all agree that if you're over the age of 14 and you get a buzz from smoke bombs or pyro then you are a ****ing gimp

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Originally Posted by LunasBoots

The words flung about left right and centre at multiple clubs in Scotland by people with very little understanding of these chants and actions towards innocent people, for someone with mental health problems it will be difficult to deal With, it's only a matter of time before a player may be effected beyond help.

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i was going to touch on that topic in my post but i would have worded it wrongly, i do think he may need some professional help even if only how to learn to ignore what's coming his way from the stands, but that's obviously just my opinion and he may possibly just be that "dick" after all

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Originally Posted by heretoday

What about the moron who chucked it on the pitch in the first place?
Serves the sods right in my view.

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Hope it hit the ****

Was the flare thrown into an area with no players or officials there at the time?

If so, then it will be difficult to charge any of the crowd with throwing it at someone. Griffiths, however, has no defence.

And for the record, the chants are wrong and have no place and decent society in my view, but players have got to rise above it for their own sakes, however difficult that may be.

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Originally Posted by LunasBoots

The words flung about left right and centre at multiple clubs in Scotland by people with very little understanding of these chants and actions towards innocent people, for someone with mental health problems it will be difficult to deal With, it's only a matter of time before a player may be effected beyond help.

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Griffiths gets in bother so we all play the mental health card again. This has nothing to do with his mental health, and everything to do with him being a total roaster. Going to end up with a criminal record the length of his arm.

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Originally Posted by AltheHibby

Was the flare thrown into an area with no players or officials there at the time?

If so, then it will be difficult to charge any of the crowd with throwing it at someone. Griffiths, however, has no defence.

And for the record, the chants are wrong and have no place and decent society in my view, but players have got to rise above it for their own sakes, however difficult that may be.

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Yes, goal was scored at the opposite end of the ground.

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Originally Posted by hibbysam

Yes, goal was scored at the opposite end of the ground.

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Thanks.

Pyros at the football is a good thing

In my opinion this incident has two wrongs - firstly the chants directed at Griffiths are abusive and a criminal offence. If it happened in the street arrests would be made. Football 'supporters' are by and and large free to shout abuse at a player. They paid their money which gives them the licence to abuse another person. Secondly Griffiths was reckless and shouldn't have reacted the way he did. But it's easy to say for other people when most will never find themselves in a similar situation. Griffiths snapped and reacted. Some people WILL react as it takes great courage to ignore and walk away.

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Originally Posted by Inconsequential

In my opinion this incident has two wrongs - firstly the chants directed at Griffiths are abusive and a criminal offence. If it happened in the street arrests would be made. Football 'supporters' are by and and large free to shout abuse at a player. They paid their money which gives them the licence to abuse another person. Secondly Griffiths was reckless and shouldn't have reacted the way he did. But it's easy to say for other people when most will never find themselves in a similar situation. Griffiths snapped and reacted. Some people WILL react as it takes great courage to ignore and walk away.

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Presuming he was in the centre circle awaiting the restart, he would’ve ran 50+ yards to boot a pyrotechnic into a crowded area. That’s not snapping, that’s just plain stupidity. Snapping would’ve been turning round where he was and giving the finger. I’m also not sure what criminal offence someone is supposed to be committing by making said chant.

As it stands there is only one person committing a criminal offence and he’s been charged with that.

Is it a criminal offence to verbally abuse someone these days? Who's decides what constitutes abuse?

I've zero experience with the law and I'm not trying to be smart, but if someone shouts and swears at me in the street I don't expect the police to arrest them. I'll tell them to f off and go about my day.

People are 'abusive' in all sorts of ways in daily life without the law being involved.

Ask anyone working in retail what customers can be like for example. The police would rarely get involved unless things got physical.

Call centre staff get abuse on a daily basis from irate companies, they don't go running to the police either.

Team sports will always, well, hopefully always, have a tribal element to the support. Causing offence to the opposition is part of it.

The guy is a liability.

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Originally Posted by hibbysam

Presuming he was in the centre circle awaiting the restart, he would’ve ran 50+ yards to boot a pyrotechnic into a crowded area. That’s not snapping, that’s just plain stupidity. Snapping would’ve been turning round where he was and giving the finger. I’m also not sure what criminal offence someone is supposed to be committing by making said chant.

As it stands there is only one person committing a criminal offence and he’s been charged with that.

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Abuse does not need to be physical, abuse can be verbal. I can only judge what I've seen and I never saw Griffiths running 50 yards I only saw abuse directed at him and his reaction.

Public Order Act 1986. Harassment, distress or alarm. 1. A person is guilty of a criminal offence if he a/ uses threatening or abusive words.

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

Is it a criminal offence to verbally abuse someone these days? Who's decides what constitutes abuse?

I've zero experience with the law and I'm not trying to be smart, but if someone shouts and swears at me in the street I don't expect the police to arrest them. I'll tell them to f off and go about my day.

People are 'abusive' in all sorts of ways in daily life without the law being involved.

Ask anyone working in retail what customers can be like for example. The police would rarely get involved unless things got physical.

Call centre staff get abuse on a daily basis from irate companies, they don't go running to the police either.

Team sports will always, well, hopefully always, have a tribal element to the support. Causing offence to the opposition is part of it.

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Presumably conduct liable to cause a breach of the peace is still an offence.

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Originally Posted by ancient hibee

Presumably conduct liable to cause a breach of the peace is still an offence.

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Exactly.

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Originally Posted by 660

Pyros at the football is a good thing

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Do all your mates at school agree?

Surely he was just returning it to it's owner?

Least he got a shot on target.

Joking aside, stupid thing to do, fans would be in trouble if they got caught launching a flare pitch side, same would apply if a footballer launched something into the fans

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Originally Posted by ancient hibee

Presumably conduct liable to cause a breach of the peace is still an offence.

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Nah, not really, you’re taking things to the extreme, otherwise there would be thousands of arrests for doing just that at every game.

Are you really suggesting that if I shout abuse at a player or the ref that I would be arrested? In no way is that construed as a breach of the peace.

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Originally Posted by Inconsequential

Abuse does not need to be physical, abuse can be verbal. I can only judge what I've seen and I never saw Griffiths running 50 yards I only saw abuse directed at him and his reaction.

Public Order Act 1986. Harassment, distress or alarm. 1. A person is guilty of a criminal offence if he a/ uses threatening or abusive words.

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As simple as that eh? I’m guessing there’s maybe a wee bit more to it?!!!

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Originally Posted by Inconsequential

Abuse does not need to be physical, abuse can be verbal. I can only judge what I've seen and I never saw Griffiths running 50 yards I only saw abuse directed at him and his reaction.

Public Order Act 1986. Harassment, distress or alarm. 1. A person is guilty of a criminal offence if he a/ uses threatening or abusive words.

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I can only judge what I’ve seen, one person has been arrested and charged and his name is Leigh Griffiths. Everything else is hearsay and irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

As simple as that eh? I’m guessing there’s maybe a wee bit more to it?!!!

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Yea.. Simples.

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Originally Posted by Keith_M

Surely he was just returning it to it's owner?

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The whole stand culpable?

I was a few seats along from the guy who threw the pyro onto pitch and wouldn’t have been very pleased if it got lobbed back and struck me instead of the initial culprit.

Throwing anything back into a stand full of supporters is just idiotic behaviour.

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Originally Posted by Carheenlea

The whole stand culpable?

I was a few seats along from the guy who threw the pyro onto pitch and wouldn’t have been very pleased if it got lobbed back and struck me instead of the initial culprit.

Throwing anything back into a stand full of supporters is just idiotic behaviour.

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Throwing anything FROM a stand full of supporters is also idiotic behaviour btw as displayed last night.

Pyro is for wee laddies.

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Originally Posted by allmodcons;[URL="tel:6703599"

6703599[/URL]]It is now, wasn't earlier.

I was wrong, he doesn't just kick it off the pitch but, after watching that, I'm still not sure that is troubling anybody or if the flare even makes the stand?

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f sake mate, you on the wind up?

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

Nah, not really, you’re taking things to the extreme, otherwise there would be thousands of arrests for doing just that at every game.

Are you really suggesting that if I shout abuse at a player or the ref that I would be arrested? In no way is that construed as a breach of the peace.

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Why would I say that. Your post referred to shouting in the street .My reply was in response to that.

Is he free to play against Rangers tomorrow

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Is he free to play against Rangers tomorrow

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Disaster waiting to happen if he is

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Throwing anything FROM a stand full of supporters is also idiotic behaviour btw as displayed last night.

Pyro is for wee laddies.

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Totally agree. The idiot who threw the flare as far as I know has not be charged with any offence. How proud he must be today.

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Originally Posted by Inconsequential

Totally agree. The idiot who threw the flare as far as I know has not be charged with any offence. How proud he must be today.

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There’s a huge difference between throwing an item onto an area of grass with no one in the vicinity, to booting something into a large crowded area.
I’m sure the supporter will be picked out and banned - will griffiths receive a ban that correlates that? No he won’t is the simple answer.

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There’s a huge difference between throwing an item onto an area of grass with no one in the vicinity, to booting something into a large crowded area.
I’m sure the supporter will be picked out and banned - will griffiths receive a ban that correlates that? No he won’t is the simple answer.

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Give it a rest man for godsake.

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Give it a rest man for godsake.

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Sorry Leigh.

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Is he free to play against Rangers tomorrow

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He is, but if Dundee have any sense they won’t have him anywhere near the game tomorrow.

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He is, but if Dundee have any sense they won’t have him anywhere near the game tomorrow.

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Have Sevco said if it's safe for him to be there?

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Originally Posted by Inconsequential

Give it a rest man for godsake.

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He's right though.

It was a smoke bomb which is not a flare.
Stupid of him to kick it into the crowd.

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Disaster waiting to happen if he is

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:agree: Dundee would be absolutely bonkers to play him tomorrow. If he thinks the St Johnstone fans were bad, tomorrow would be on another level.

He's finished at this level. Not close to being worth the hassle.

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

I'm not surprised he's been charged, absolutely idiotic thing to do which could have had serious consequences.

I'm absolutely delighted we didn't go near him.

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Jeez, reading some of the posts there’s a suggestion that he was unlucky that the flare went into the crowd. This man is an idiot, good move to have stayed well clear of him.

This doesn’t absolve the er$e who the threw the thing in the first place. Hope he/she is arrested and given a similar punishment as Griffiths deserves… a ban from fitba

Trouble follows him around because he's always causing it. Brings it on himself time after time after time. Born with his brain in his feet. Dundee took a punt and it's already looking like a disaster.

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:agree: Dundee would be absolutely bonkers to play him tomorrow. If he thinks the St Johnstone fans were bad, tomorrow would be on another level.

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Would they? Its a football match. He's not anywhere near Neil Lennon in terms of hated from the huns. Can't see anything bad actually happening. I think he'll play if eligible, unless the club has suspended him.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

Would they? Its a football match. He's not anywhere near Neil Lennon in terms of hated from the huns. Can't see anything bad actually happening. I think he'll play if eligible, unless the club has suspended him.

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He’s basically just a pantomime villain there. He’ll take abuse but he’ll take that everywhere this season.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

Would they? Its a football match. He's not anywhere near Neil Lennon in terms of hated from the huns. Can't see anything bad actually happening. I think he'll play if eligible, unless the club has suspended him.

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He's in their squad for the match.