Presumably over his social media antics?
Would be no surprise if they try to manoeuvre a swop + cash deal for Nisbet.
Cant see any way back for him at Parkhead.
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Presumably over his social media antics?
Would be no surprise if they try to manoeuvre a swop + cash deal for Nisbet.
Cant see any way back for him at Parkhead.
Don’t want him anywhere near Hibs now.Quote:
Originally Posted by expresso
Best fans in the world aren’t they.
I'm surprised they've not "mutually consented" him.
Was he not cleared by the police?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Trial by Social Media including here.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Cleared of criminality.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
I think not ........unless they pay up his contract which they won't and even then he would probably end up at Dens Park.Quote:
Originally Posted by expresso
I like their new manager. Seems a take no **** guy who won't be pressured by knee jerk fans moaning or Griffiths antics and excuses.
He could be the guy that Griffiths needs.
Is the baw bag still posting on social media or has the penny finally dropped after a near career shipwreck?
Griffiths has to ride out the storm and the only way to do that is keep his head down, work hard, eat well and force his way into the team through hard work and once in do the business. Biggest season of his career.
Question for the OP:
Are you at the game?
:dunno:
Doesn’t change the morals of the whole thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Not for me thanks.
It won’t just be his own fans when the league starts, he will get pelters at every ground he goes to from home fans.
Watched the game,it was a mix of booing AND cheering.
Would make an appearance at Easter Road interesting I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
Who were they playing what was the score?Quote:
Originally Posted by H18S NX
Just because there’s no legal case doesn’t mean there’s not a moral case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iggy Pope
If a 30 year old man uses his status to try to get young woman to send him pics, that’s a ****my move.
West Ham. They got beat 2-6.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iggy Pope
2-6, Angie not getting of to a great start, fancy Midtjylland to beat Celtc on Wednesday.
It a tricky one, he’s been cleared by the police but in the eyes of many his behaviour is morally wrong.
You don’t have to commit a crime to be looked down upon for your actions. I remember going to a funeral of a ex girlfriends family member in chapelhall, the son and daughter of the dead where in some kind of war over the will and there was mass out rage at the daughter as she was going out with a Indian fella, I thought the outrage should have been over the fact she was 56 and he was 17 but there you go.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...eturn-24609489Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
No
:na na:
OK. These old 30 year old guys and young women eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
I’ll leave it now.
Ouch.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
You’re either missing the potential abuse of power and status deliberately or deliberately there. That’s the biggest issue there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iggy Pope
It does if you are a utilitarian.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbysam
Did I read 18,000 at Celtic today? What’s changed in a couple of days?
They would've leathered them if Bitton hadn't ballsed it for them. Was impressed with their football until that point, especially for having so many youngsters playing where new signings inevitably will.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
Probably won't trouble the huns this season though.
Yep doesn't stop Celtic getting rid of him though.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Plus the fact he has a girlfriend at home while making these ‘moves’. All in all a fairly ****my experience which paints Griffiths in very poor light.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
You think none of our players use being a footballer to try and pull women?Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Getting a little daft now if this is how we would be assessing signings. That’s up to him and his girlfriend.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbysam
...YES,that's what they said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iggy Pope
Yeah I wasn't making a comment on the morality of what he did - that's kinda between him and his missus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
However if Celtic wanted to bin him and he hadn't been convicted of something then they would need to pay his contract up entirely - and imo he would get another club immediately.
I don't see them doing it, in fact I imagine the new boss will use this as a lever to get the best out of him.
He's been a bit of a fool though......
Do you think they use their social media accounts to try and get them to send photos of them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Yeah, up to him to go chasing 16 year old girls while having a girlfriend in the house. Illegal? No, morally wrong? Absolutely. Nobody will change my mind, or many others on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Yeah but so what? Nothing to do with being a football player.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbysam
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Originally Posted by expresso
It was just curiosity as to how you knew.
No accusations intended, honestly
:wink:
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Originally Posted by hibbysam
I'm not going to state my view on this either way, but it's only fair to point out that he didn't actually know she was 16. It's entirely possible he would have behaved completely differently if he had known.
There's obviously no question that his partner will be very unhappy with him for asking some random woman on the internet for some sexy photos... but that's a different matter entirely and hardly marks him out as morally inferior to a large number of fellow professionals.
According to that article Griffiths was "placed under an internal probe" :greengrin which sounds both impossible and illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by expresso
Daily Record - Written by thickos for thickos
Chasing 16 year old lassies around, the negative media attention it brings and so on does seem to effect his ability to be a decent football player though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
His contract extension was pretty contentious before the “pics” stuff happened.
My mate is a Celtic fan and he was distinctly unimpressed that he was being offered another last chance, given his issues over the past few years.
He also says that other than one or two wee bursts of form, he’s largely been pretty poor for them.
End of the day if he comes on during the week and scores the winning goal for them or scores the winning goal against Rangers he will be back to being a hero
It’s his GF I feel sorry for
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That’s his responsibility. He’s a very lucky boy that she wasn’t a year younger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
…THANKS for that.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by H18S NX
But she wasn’t though. Who cares. Plenty of here were praising the England team as a great bunch of lads despite one of them cheating on his pregnant girlfriend and another being a few parked cars away from mowing down pedestrians. Anyone using football players as some sort of moral compass is a moron. They’re largely uneducated idiots with loads of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbysam
That makes everything ok then!! 30 year olds going after 16 year olds are creeps, simple as that. Illegal or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by 660
Wanted Griffiths to finish his career at Hibs.However behaviour wise and footballing wise i am now not sure.
No it doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by madbadlad
I'm sure - I wouldn't want him anywhere near Hibs now.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Count
Correct. Never ever wanted him to come at the end of his career, would’ve taken him in the last couple of years but no chance now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
The 1st 2 LG threads were shut down. Now we have the same old arguments from those threads being rehashed. The only fact about this whole sad affair is that no one on here knows the true story. Time to go for a hat trick admins!
If he came back to hibs and did the business for us scoring a barrow load of goals and assists his indiscretion would soon be forgotten about. He's been a fool but nothing criminal. I'd be all for giving Leigh a chance. We're all human and guaranteed to make mistakes in life.
It's a shame that you can be cleared of other crimes and its forgotten about, but with others the tag will stick - particularly if you're in the spotlight.
Griffiths behaved atrociously and he's embarrassed himself and his family but he's not a "nonce" until proven guilty, and he was cleared.
If the celtic fans are booing because he's messed up one too many chances then fair enough, but if it's because they see him as the above then that's a shame and I worry for the future of LG with that tag hanging over him.
Think Celtic will beat them thought they were poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
He wasn’t cleared. He wasn’t charged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Oagwibble
That's not utilitarianism. Utilitarianism is about consequences. You are actually conflating morality with legality. In a perfect world they would mirror each other, but in reality they don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by madbadlad
Can we not all just agree that he's a creep, not worthy of a hibs shirt and move on?
That ship has sailed. Speed boat Mueller arriving soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by AgentDaleCooper
You're right and I wouldn't use Celtic fans as moral arbiters anyway. Equally, I wouldn't have any truck with Griffiths because he just carries too much baggage. I doubt Hibs would touch him with a bargepole now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Oagwibble
You’d have to be massively naive to believe otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Yep, I dont think what he did was particularly clever, and he really needs to have a rethink of his online behaviour.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
But hes a lot closer to a guy looking at girls lying sunbathing in the Meadows than he is to Jeffrey Epstein.
If you have evidence of this then I’d suggest you forward it to the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
Celtic can do what they like, no way Hibs will take Griffiths and Nisbet isn't leaving this summer
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Because it’s morally repugnant if someone was to use their status as a Hibernian footballer to pressure a young follower on social media into sending pictures with any sexual nature to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Agree with your first point but not so sure about the second much as I hope it goes that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
I wonder how many of those on here lambasting Griffiths are fans of the "legend" that was George Best? And would they still be if there was social media back then. Pretty sure leigh would look like an angel in comparison. Anyone think he didn't bed many young females?
Agree with the Griff point. The other is wishful thinking. And we all wish the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
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Originally Posted by flash
We'd be pushing much harder for a striker and probably have them in already if Nisbet was currently involved in transfer bids. I personally think he's been told he can go wherever he wants next summer, but Hibs want him to push on this season. Same with Doig.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
I’d rather not make up crude rumours about a man that can’t defend himself against them, unless you have any proof of a 30 year old Best getting up to no good with a barely legal teen.Quote:
Originally Posted by number7
Or possibly similar to McGinn in that we keep him until at least after our European run which may then increase his value again.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
I'd hope we'd learned something from that. Didn't work out well for us in midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbysam
If a player is leaving, you get him replaced asap. I don't want a striker coming in late, not trained with the team, zero confidence etc.
We are pushing to get Mueller in this window. My assumption that’s due to us thinking more will come for Nis.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Again, so what? To what extent are you checking on the morals of all or employees?Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
How would you know they are using their status in any case, how would you assess the pressure being put on, and are you going to be checking out the nightclubs of Edinburgh for similar behaviour.
I get you don’t like it but it’s nothing to do with their ability to be employed by us as football players.
Why stop at Best, list all of the stars of previous eras! Poor post.Quote:
Originally Posted by number7
Seems like he was a long term target anyway. And I doubt we'd be leaving it up to such chance, because his club will likely just say no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
Oh I do apologise for the poor post sir 😄Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee
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Originally Posted by hibbysam
Good, thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by number7
What a smashing thread 🤣
Don't really see the point in your post anyway. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of so many people who are so self righteous and never put a foot wrong in this life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee
I don’t have evidence, I do have a grasp on reality of social media nowadays though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Not that I think it’s of any business/interest to the club, what the players are doing with regards to that kind of thing.
No angel but certainly wouldn’t be chatting up 16 year olds at my age that’s for sure and I’m younger than LG. Creepy.Quote:
Originally Posted by number7
He didn’t know she was 16. The girl said so.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbysam
Was she 16? Yes she was. The fact he never asked is his problem. The facts are that he's 30, shes 16, it’s horrible. Ignorance is no excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
She might not look 16 but she definitely doesn't look much older. He's literally twice her age. It's extremely creepy and wrong even if there is no criminality.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
Personally, I always demand to see my wife's birth certificate any time she gets a bit frisky.
Better safe than sorry.
Have you actually seen the photo that he responded to? It’s out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
If you have seen it, I’ve no idea how you can say she didn’t look much older than 16. You couldn’t even see her face. Her phone was covering it. What you could see was someone in their bra and pants.
Think you've mentioned a few times that's she's in her bra and pants. So what? Because she is does that mean she's fair game for creepers to be sending her messages asking for pics?Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
Don't see any difference to her posting a pic in her bra and pants to all the pics you see of folk posting pics in their bikinis on holiday etc.
No, I’m saying you can’t see her age from the photo. I’m saying that you don’t assume that someone posting a photo like that is 16.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
I’d say there is a difference between posting a photo in your underwear, than posting a photo in a bikini.
Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
Personally think it's creepy asking lassies to send you pictures regardless of their age anyway. Like you say, I get it happens and it's probably common with the youth. Doesn't mean it's right though.
Dunno, have you seen some bikinis kicking about these days!
He has to face the consequences of his actions. He behaved appallingly (again) and the people who help pay his wages aren't happy with him. Will it make him think deeply about his conduct? I have my doubts.
Yes of course you are 🙄Quote:
Originally Posted by number7
It's shocking that people on here trying to defend him. His behaviour is deplorable. If he hadn't played briefly for Hibs, I doubt people would be treating this so lightly.
A 30 year old asking a 16 year old for pics? Horrible.
I'm shocked Celtic aren't trying to move him on.
Is an adult getting pics from a 16 year old actually legal? Thought it was 18 for things like that?
Not very tasteful but clearly legal, as the police enquiry confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
History is littered with examples of what was legal but not necessarily palatable. John Knox, at the age of 54, married his second wife when she was a child who may have been as old as 15, likely 14. Even our present PM is 14 years senior to his present wife.
Whether we like it or not the age of consent in the UK is 16 and there is no legal definition of what is a suitable age difference between “adults”. What LG did seems a bit creepy but it’s legal.
I always thought the age of consent, 16, is different from the age for porn/dirty pics or whatever. Isn't that 18? Google seems to say so.Quote:
Originally Posted by CentreLine
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Originally Posted by CentreLine
Well maybe: the police may have just concluded that there is little or no chance of a conviction. Perhaps the evidence is too ambiguous to stand up in court, despite most observers seeming to be fairly convinced about LG’s intentions.
Yes, there are things we would like to be in life and then there is what the law says. I’m afraid I’m not much more up on the porno stuff since a mate turned up with 35mm Swedish movies in the 1970s. That’s when I was as young or younger than the girl LG seems to have contacted and the ladies in the movies seemed very mature but I suspect the polis have a handle on itQuote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Set aside all the online stuff. I dont want him at Hibs. I think we have a great group right now and he's just not what we need. imo.
This is where I am …Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
The reported police response was that there was “no criminality”Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
I’m not about to defend LG but let’s not make stuff up in order to promote an agenda.