Jackson Irvine

Apologies if this was posted elsewhere but what’s the general feeling about him staying/leaving.

I feel as if I’d be happy if he stayed but wouldn’t be that bothered if he left. He’s been okay for us but not a lot else. I was extremely disappointed with him in the final (not the only player) but I feel he’s been a bit of a let down and I’d rather see a player who is contributing a bit more going forward. I like him but I would rather see his considerable wages go to someone who’s going to pick up 5/10 goals a year.

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Originally Posted by LNHibs

Apologies if this was posted elsewhere but what’s the general feeling about him staying/leaving.

I feel as if I’d be happy if he stayed but wouldn’t be that bothered if he left. He’s been okay for us but not a lot else. I was extremely disappointed with him in the final (not the only player) but I feel he’s been a bit of a let down and I’d rather see a player who is contributing a bit more going forward. I like him but I would rather see his considerable wages go to someone who’s going to pick up 5/10 goals a year.

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I’d like him to stay and think he could be a big player next season after a pre season. However I think he’s part of a wider issue. There’s no point in bringing him back if Ross is going to have his favourites like Newell. I think we either need to decide if we want a midfield with Newell and build it to compliment him. Or accept Newell is a quality player but it’s difficult to fit him into a balanced and functioning midfield and go with Gogic, Irvine and another to compliment them.

Either way I hope Ross stops with just two central midfielders next season. We can’t afford the quality needed from those two midfielders to make it really work IMO.

On balance I would like him to stay, but, and I might be wrong here, I get the impression that his recent tweet was an apology for the players letting us down and a fond farewell as he will be off to pastures new.

I was enthusiastic about him after his first match - he was pretty impressive given the amount of time he'd gone without a game. However for me he hasn't shown enough since then to merit breaking the bank to keep him.

If he was to stay on a wage/deal that Hibs think is reasonable then I'll be happy enough. If he moves on because we won't meet his demands then so be it.

Meh!

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Originally Posted by The Modfather

I’d like him to stay and think he could be a big player next season after a pre season. However I think he’s part of a wider issue. There’s no point in bringing him back if Ross is going to have his favourites like Newell. I think we either need to decide if we want a midfield with Newell and build it to compliment him. Or accept Newell is a quality player but it’s difficult to fit him into a balanced and functioning midfield and go with Gogic, Irvine and another to compliment them.

Either way I hope Ross stops with just two central midfielders next season. We can’t afford the quality needed from those two midfielders to make it really work IMO.

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Think you’re bang on here. I felt in the final he was almost like a left midfield which is a total waste an probably why his numbers hasn’t been all that great. Watching us at times this year it seems like he’s trying to fit a formation around the players than the other way about. If he stays I’d want us to play him Gogic and Newell in a midfield 3 and have wide players playing out wide.

Like many I was delighted we signed him as I felt he was the missing piece in our midfield puzzle so to speak. Then after what was a really good start he just seemed to go a bit flat and would routinely go large spells of matches without really imposing himself I felt.

Ultimately if we do keep him I think there's a player in there to build a successful team with for sure, but on the other hand if he's wanting stupid money then I'm not sure I feel like we need a man of his traits badly enough to break the bank.

I'm indifferent about him. From what I've seen he's a decent player, nothing more.
I think he'd be easy enough to replace and I'd prefer to have someone in his position who occasionally chipped in with a few goals.
If he stays then fine and if he goes then also fine.

A bit torn on him. Like others are saying he was good when he came in but regressed a bit. Really poor in front of goal as well surprisingly because I’m sure he scored a few goals at Hull

You just know that if he joins Aberdeen he’d have an absolute stormer next season

I rate him and 100% would keep him. Off to the sheep in the summer though.

I'm indifferent. He's not offered enough for me to back him being a high end earner. I hope Kyle Magennis can step up to the plate and we use the money elsewhere to strengthen the side.

Similar to Jack Ross I suppose, not bothered either way.

After the first few games I thought he would have had more of an impact at the business end of the season. What a chance he had on Saturday to really make a name for himself.

If we sign him I'll get behind him but would prefer it's a deal that's best for Hibs.

Apparently Aberdeen want him, so he can't be up to much :wink:

He's no better than OK, doesn't control games, disappears for long spells, doesn't score goals can produce the goods but doesn't do it often enough. Would not push the boat out for him as there are plenty of the same standard players floating around Scotland.

Hope he stays however fair to say some of his performances not the best though though the was excellent at Aberdeen

Interested to see how he performed if Hibs adopted a rigid 3-5-2 as opposed to the hybrid/flexible formation we use at the moment.

Also, JR has made it no secret he expects KM to be the main man next season..

I'd like him to stay. Get a full pre-season under his belt and see how he goes.

He's a good player who has often been played wide left. Play him in the middle and you'll see the best of him.

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Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge

I'd like him to stay. Get a full pre-season under his belt and see how he goes.

He's a good player who has often been played wide left. Play him in the middle and you'll see the best of him.

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Aye think that’s important, unfair to judge players when they’re out of position. Why he’s been stuck out on the left I’ll never know.

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Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge

I'd like him to stay. Get a full pre-season under his belt and see how he goes.

He's a good player who has often been played wide left. Play him in the middle and you'll see the best of him.

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Would agree with this. He definitely seems a good player but i think there is more to come with him and he seems like a good personality in the dressing room. I’d like to see to stay, but we certainly need to strengthen the midfield around him.

Let him go to Aberdeen . Absolute ***** bag .

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Originally Posted by JimBHibees

Hope he stays however fair to say some of his performances not the best though though the was excellent at Aberdeen

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Is it any surprise that his best performance was against the team who want him and where he is likely to end up?:rolleyes:

It’s a no from me

Couldn’t hit a barn door if his life depended upon it and runs funny for a footballer

At least he apologised

Why do folk think he's so certain to go to Aberdeen?

Wasn't there an article a week or so ago stating that if he decides to stay in Scotland he'd be staying at Hibs, and not going to Aberdeen?

I like him. He improved us immediately after arrived and would probably be my first pick of the midfielders.

I'd be keeping hold of him if it was at all possible.

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Originally Posted by makaveli1875

Let him go to Aberdeen . Absolute ***** bag .

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More over the top nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Smartie

I like him. He improved us immediately after arrived and would probably be my first pick of the midfielders.

I'd be keeping hold of him if it was at all possible.

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Me too, there are others i'd have out the door before i came to him.

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Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby

Meh!

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The player I recall from his time at Ross County - yes please.

The player we’ve seen at Hibs, well Bangkok Hibby sums it up perfectly.

Maybe a cliche , but I think he would be a different player after a proper pre-season. If he leaves then so be it. I would be surprised if he gets a better offer in Scotland as he won't be on the radar of the OF.

Encourages hoofing

Would rather Scott Allan any day of the week

Was impressed with Jackson Irvine when he first came to Hibs for his energy and work rate.

Thought along with Cadden,Gogic and Doig he was part of the best Hibs midfield last season

For some unknown reason when Newell came back into the team,he didn’t seem sure of his position and his form dipped.

If he does stay,it probably will be because he doesn’t get a better offer elsewhere.

Is this a good reason for staying ? I’m not sure.

I’m unsure, but as the Modfather says there is no point if it’s to play in a midfield of Newell and Gogic. All the signs are that Newell is a favourite of Ross, though if it was up to me I wouldn’t be playing him and wouldn’t have extended his contract. Gogic on the other hand I really like and I would be starting every game. I’d like to see Scott Allan in the side on the assumption he can get back to his best.

Trouble is if we continue to play with two strikers the current midfield doesn’t look balanced for me and most definitely doesn’t get enough goals. And I’ve seen nothing so far from Magennis to suggest he is the answer.

Wouldn’t sign him if he’s going to continue to play left midfield by the manager and guess he won’t sign being that reason.

Decent player but wouldn't break the bank to keep him, been offered a deal and still hasn't signed it, if goes so be it, we move on/

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Originally Posted by J-C

Decent player but wouldn't break the bank to keep him, been offered a deal and still hasn't signed it, if goes so be it, we move on/

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:agree: not showed enough to break the bank.

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Originally Posted by J-C

Decent player but wouldn't break the bank to keep him, been offered a deal and still hasn't signed it, if goes so be it, we move on/

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:agree: Touch of the Fraser Fyvie situation with JI. He seems to want to hold on to see what he can get, thinking that Hibs want him and will hang on indefinitely for him. He’s not that important to us so I hope Ross calls a halt and starts, if he hasn’t already, to look for a good replacement who wants to play for us.

Not been overly impressed, but he’s been asked to do a job for the team out of position at times and done all right. Best spell was early doors in a better balanced midfield minus Joe Newell.

Difficult player to assess IMO, early on I really liked him and he put in some really good passes. But I totally with a lot of people on here who say that the midfield with him and Newell is a bit hot and cold. I do like Irvine, he works hard for the team IMO even when he's played out of position and looking totally ineffective, where as Newell just lopes about but is a really good passer given the space. I would definitely keep him, but if he's seriously thinking of going to Aberdeen he can piss off right now.

Since he arrived I’ve seen nothing to suggest he is worth signing. Like most of the team, his cup final performance was abysmal.

I'd keep on another short term deal. Think overall he's definitely added to our midfield but needs to be played in the correct position, which is not left midfield.

Just a shame his performance Saturday dampened some of my enthusiasm for him. Compare it to his last cup final appearance for County v us in 2016. Marked McGinn out the game best player on the park that day. I'd give him a chance to try to get to those levels again think there's still a player there.

I get the feeling there is a very very good box to box midfielder for this level inside him, however with a long period out and coming back into a team out of position, I don't think he's had the chance to show what he's capable of yet.

Would be happy to see him signing for next season as a central midfielder.

Like him to sign tbh.

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Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby

Meh!

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A frustrating player! There are real glimpses of class and he's all the attributes to be a really effective player. Some of his passes to Boyle in earlier matches shows to me he's a good player.

However, there are times in games when I get the impression that he's a bit "headless chicken", rushes around a lot, but the game passes him by. I keep saying "what has Irvine done in this match", though then he usually does something to make me think a bit more positive about him.

That said, Saturday is not the day to define Irvine's contribution this year. He's been more good than bad.

I'm more disappointed by Newell's performance. He rarely got out of 1st gear and played so many backward passes. There was a few times when he was jogging back to help out our defence, when he should have been sprinting. The same when we had a chance to break forward.

Newell has been excellent for Hibs this season, especially in the 1st half of it. But he was very poor on Saturday.

If two of your three central midfielders are having poor games, then it's not a surprise that Boyle, Nisbet and Doidge were hardly seen.

Martin Boyle and Jackson Irvine joined the Socceroos training camp in the Middle East today ahead of their 3 World Cup qualifiers being played in Kuwait in early June.

Seeing as Irvine’s contract expires on 31/5 and nothing has been announced and he won’t be back until after his contract ends, I’m guessing we won’t see him in a Hibs strip again.

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Originally Posted by Forza Fred

Martin Boyle and Jackson Irvine joined the Socceroos training camp in the Middle East today ahead of their 3 World Cup qualifiers being played in Kuwait in early June.

Seeing as Irvine’s contract expires on 31/5 and nothing has been announced and he won’t be back until after his contract ends, I’m guessing we won’t see him in a Hibs strip again.

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Doesn't meant that at all

We will have a rough deadline on him accepting and we will stick to that

I hope he signs on to be honest - wouldn't want him signing for any of our rivals

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I get the impression that Jack Ross/the club sets deadlines for people signing. If the deadline passes that doesn't mean that any offer is withdrawn, but it will mean that the club will no longer wait on the player in question's answer to fill the position (at which point the offer would no longer stand).

The immediate aftermath of the cup final loss is obviously not the time to launch a new kit or any other commercial initiatives, however it wouldn't surprise me if the photos have already been done for the new kit/sponsor launch. These could even include photos of a newly resigned Jackson Irvine, with the announcement having been withheld for release at a better moment.

Or he might be offski and that's that.

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Originally Posted by cameronw-hfc

I get the feeling there is a very very good box to box midfielder for this level inside him, however with a long period out and coming back into a team out of position, I don't think he's had the chance to show what he's capable of yet.

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Whilst recognising the part about Irvine having had a long period with no club, I'm not so sure about having had no chance to show what he capable. He's certainly played plenty of games.

If he 's been played out of position, I wonder, what is his actual best position? A lot of people mention this when discussing him, yet I'm no clearer as to what that position would be.

I also wonder why we couldn't find a central midfield blend that accommodates this from Gogic, Hallberg, Irvine, Murphy and Newell (appreciate that Murphy has had lengthy period of injury)? Whoops, forgot to add Magennis.

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Originally Posted by superfurryhibby

Whilst recognising the part about Irvine having had a long period with no club, I'm not so sure about having had no chance to show what he capable. He's certainly played plenty of games.

If he 's been played out of position, I wonder, what is his actual best position? A lot of people mention this when discussing him, yet I'm no clearer as to what that position would be.

I also wonder why we couldn't find a central midfield blend that accommodates this from Gogic, Hallberg, Irvine, Murphy and Newell (appreciate that Murphy has had lengthy period of injury)?

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Gogic, Irvine & Murphy had that blend against Aberdeen at home IMO. Steel, energy & creativity. Newell came back from injury and we’ve never seen that midfield again as Newell appears to be one of Ross’ undropables.

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Originally Posted by The Modfather

Gogic, Irvine & Murphy had that blend against Aberdeen at home IMO. Steel, energy & creativity. Newell came back from injury and we’ve never seen that midfield again as Newell appears to be one of Ross’ undropables.

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Yip, although Murphy picked up another injury. We cant keep playing him wide if he stays, or even McGennis. We have brought the lad in from ICT, so Ross can see this too and has started to address our weaknesses.

Missed the one opportunity we had in a cup final , him along with the rest of the team can all go. Best opportunity ever to win silverware and to think after 2 lost semi finals they don't bother to turn up for the last chance saloon final and the one that brought with it no just the holy grail of cups but massive financial rewards.

Manager can go too.

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Originally Posted by Peevemor

I get the impression that Jack Ross/the club sets deadlines for people signing. If the deadline passes that doesn't mean that any offer is withdrawn, but it will mean that the club will no longer wait on the player in question's answer to fill the position (at which point the offer would no longer stand).

The immediate aftermath of the cup final loss is obviously not the time to launch a new kit or any other commercial initiatives, however it wouldn't surprise me if the photos have already been done for the new kit/sponsor launch. These could even include photos of a newly resigned Jackson Irvine, with the announcement having been withheld for release at a better moment.

Or he might be offski and that's that.

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Maybe he hopes that turning in MOM performances in the qualifying games will attract some better offers than what we have put on the table.

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Originally Posted by ddoc

Maybe he hopes that turning in MOM performances in the qualifying games will attract some better offers than what we have put on the table.

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His contract will be up by then though.

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Originally Posted by 7Hero

Missed the one opportunity we had in a cup final , him along with the rest of the team can all go. Best opportunity ever to win silverware and to think after 2 lost semi finals they don't bother to turn up for the last chance saloon final and the one that brought with it no just the holy grail of cups but massive financial rewards.

Manager can go too.

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All that would mean is another season of transition for a very slim chance we could better the season we've just had when we have a great opportunity to put real distance between ourselves and Aberdeen for seasons to come. People aren't thinking clearly.

Good player and well worth keeping.

If we'd won the cup we'd all be saying how vital he is.

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Originally Posted by Greenio

Good player and well worth keeping.

If we'd won the cup we'd all be saying how vital he is.

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We didn't win it though . Our midfield got well and truly owned and Irvine was posted missing for most of the game .

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Originally Posted by 7Hero

Missed the one opportunity we had in a cup final , him along with the rest of the team can all go. Best opportunity ever to win silverware and to think after 2 lost semi finals they don't bother to turn up for the last chance saloon final and the one that brought with it no just the holy grail of cups but massive financial rewards.

Manager can go too.

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Presumably you’d apply the same logic to Man United?

In a momentary lapse of reason I’ll pretend you are serious.

So we start next with our first game in Europe and need to:

compensate the dismissal of a manager and an entire team.
recruit a new management team - or is someone internally stepping up?
recruit and entire new first team
bed the team in - I forget when the Arsenal friendly is but is 6-9th July not our first game?
so 4 weeks.

if you still don’t see the flaw in that would you like to buy a timeshare ;)

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Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs

Yip, although Murphy picked up another injury. We cant keep playing him wide if he stays, or even McGennis. We have brought the lad in from ICT, so Ross can see this too and has started to address our weaknesses.

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I hope the young lad can beat a defender on both sides otherwise we are back to square one with a right footed player coming inside all the time, Murphy playing inside might be considered a luxury allied to his injury problems. Magennis is apparently a central midfielder according to St Mirren fans and if he plays regularly next season I can see Newell as the one that drops out.

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Originally Posted by 7Hero

Missed the one opportunity we had in a cup final , him along with the rest of the team can all go. Best opportunity ever to win silverware and to think after 2 lost semi finals they don't bother to turn up for the last chance saloon final and the one that brought with it no just the holy grail of cups but massive financial rewards.

Manager can go too.

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Seems rationale to me

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Originally Posted by 7Hero

Missed the one opportunity we had in a cup final , him along with the rest of the team can all go. Best opportunity ever to win silverware and to think after 2 lost semi finals they don't bother to turn up for the last chance saloon final and the one that brought with it no just the holy grail of cups but massive financial rewards.

Manager can go too.

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Aye, ok then. Have you changed your sheets every day since last Sunday?

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Originally Posted by 7Hero

Missed the one opportunity we had in a cup final , him along with the rest of the team can all go. Best opportunity ever to win silverware and to think after 2 lost semi finals they don't bother to turn up for the last chance saloon final and the one that brought with it no just the holy grail of cups but massive financial rewards.

Manager can go too.

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You're not serious however you would like to think Hibs will be carrying out an honest post mortem on that Cup Final, rather than writing it off as a bad day at the office as so many on this board want to. The performance suggests there was something deeply wrong with many of the players attitude/mindset from start to finish and Hibs need to get to the root if it. If part of the solution is moving players on, so be it, but a nuclear destruction of the whole squad feels a bit OTT.

A squad and manager rebuild would see us struggle to finish above Aberdeen and potentially Hearts next season. Then there would be calls for the new manager to be punted. Rinse and repeat. Not for me.

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Originally Posted by Since452

A squad and manager rebuild would see us struggle to finish above Aberdeen and potentially Hearts next season. Then there would be calls for the new manager to be punted. Rinse and repeat. Not for me.

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Hearts are *****. They'll be lucky to finish top 6.

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Originally Posted by superfurryhibby

Whilst recognising the part about Irvine having had a long period with no club, I'm not so sure about having had no chance to show what he capable. He's certainly played plenty of games.

If he 's been played out of position, I wonder, what is his actual best position? A lot of people mention this when discussing him, yet I'm no clearer as to what that position would be.

I also wonder why we couldn't find a central midfield blend that accommodates this from Gogic, Hallberg, Irvine, Murphy and Newell (appreciate that Murphy has had lengthy period of injury)? Whoops, forgot to add Magennis.

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I think Saints have shown that it's not about how good each individual player is; it's about the right blend and playing as a unit.
I'd go as far as suggesting that bar the OF, all SPL teams would be highly jealous of the collection of individuals we have for midfield.
Gogic, Hallberg, Irvine, Murphy, Newell, Magennis, Allan, Mallan.
Gogic - does what it says on the tin.
Hallberg - strikes me as a versatile squad player as back-up, not a sure-fire starter.
The rest - file under inconsistent or flatters to deceive.

With that many decent footballers for midfield slots, it is inevitable that some will be unhappy at not getting enough game time. Could we offload two and use any fees and the combined wage to get one in who will be a significant upgrade and help us get the right blend?
Dunno who mind.

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Originally Posted by Forza Fred

Martin Boyle and Jackson Irvine joined the Socceroos training camp in the Middle East today ahead of their 3 World Cup qualifiers being played in Kuwait in early June.

Seeing as Irvine’s contract expires on 31/5 and nothing has been announced and he won’t be back until after his contract ends, I’m guessing we won’t see him in a Hibs strip again.

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He’s taking a chance playing for Australia without a club contract, if he gets injured he’s out the game with no earnings. I doubt he’ll even have insurance to play.

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Originally Posted by lucky

He’s taking a chance playing for Australia without a club contract, if he gets injured he’s out the game with no earnings. I doubt he’ll even have insurance to play.

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I suppose that is a consideration but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s all taken care of by his next club, with whom he may have already signed some sort of contract.

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Originally Posted by lucky

He’s taking a chance playing for Australia without a club contract, if he gets injured he’s out the game with no earnings. I doubt he’ll even have insurance to play.

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The Australian FA will have insurance.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

Hearts are *****. They'll be lucky to finish top 6.

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No one knows what they'll be like next season, but I hope you're right.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

Hearts are *****. They'll be lucky to finish top 6.

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I just a wee look at their squad on the website, the only player of theres I would have is Craig Gordon.

Irvine was supposed to be the crucial missing link who had the qualities to transform the midfield. A bit like McCrorie was meant to do or that Campbell would do too.

In reality he hasn’t done much more than any of the other players we’ve had playing in that position. Not sure he’d justify what he’d probably be looking for to stay.

Personally i'd like to keep hold of as many players that got us to 3rd and a cup final, most in their first season here. Good platform to build on.

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You're not serious however you would like to think Hibs will be carrying out an honest post mortem on that Cup Final, rather than writing it off as a bad day at the office as so many on this board want to. The performance suggests there was something deeply wrong with many of the players attitude/mindset from start to finish and Hibs need to get to the root if it. If part of the solution is moving players on, so be it, but a nuclear destruction of the whole squad feels a bit OTT.

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To be fair, I don’t think I’ve seen too many write off last Saturday as a bad day at the office. If any at all.

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Originally Posted by Jones28

I just a wee look at their squad on the website, the only player of theres I would have is Craig Gordon.

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The addition of Boyce and Soutter (if you could guarantee his fitness) would see us almost ready for next season

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

Hearts are *****. They'll be lucky to finish top 6.

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Isn’t that what we said before the semi-final🤔

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Originally Posted by CMurdoch

The addition of Boyce and Soutter (if you could guarantee his fitness) would see us almost ready for next season

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Boyce over either Nisbet or Doidge would be a massive downgrade. Souttar wouldn't granted, but I don't think I would take him over Porteous. If Ryan can re-evaluate his job as a defender and cut the rash errors that have plagued him this season absolutely not. I would take Kerr in over both of them though.

Decent enough player but for the money I think we could do better or same for less. Need goals and a bit more creativity from our midfield in general.

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Isn’t that what we said before the semi-final🤔

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:agree: and they didn’t finish top 6.

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Originally Posted by Jones28

I just a wee look at their squad on the website, the only player of theres I would have is Craig Gordon.

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They seem to be of the opinion they will have a WOW signing which they think will be Snodgrass, they are also signing Shankland and probably Campbell. This is kickback of course

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Originally Posted by makaveli1875

We didn't win it though . Our midfield got well and truly owned and Irvine was posted missing for most of the game .

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Not going to judge a player on one game

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Originally Posted by 04Sauzee

They seem to be of the opinion they will have a WOW signing which they think will be Snodgrass, they are also signing Shankland and probably Campbell. This is kickback of course

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All joking aside id love us to sign Snodgrass. Exactly the type of player and character i think we need after last Saturday. Pretty unrealistic i'd have thought though.

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Originally Posted by Greenio

Not going to judge a player on one game

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Irvine played 21 games, you could probably offer some view on his overall performances in those.

My own opinion is that he contributed well enough, but never really stood out for anything in particular. He wasn’t a goal scoring threat, nor did he seem particularly robust in his play.

I reckon the side performed better in the 15 league games he played in than they did in the 15 immediately preceding his arrival and therefore my assumption is that he made us a better side without being all that clear about what he does best.

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Originally Posted by superfurryhibby

Irvine played 21 games, you could probably offer some view on his overall performances in those.

My own opinion is that he contributed well enough, but never really stood out for anything in particular. He wasn’t a goal scoring threat, nor did he seem particularly robust in his play.

I reckon the side performed better in the 15 league games he played in than they did in the 15 immediately preceding his arrival and therefore my assumption overall is that he made us a better side without being all that clear about what he does best.

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I think he covers a lot of ground, isn't afraid to get stuck in and, most importantly, is the player I always felt was willing to plant a pass at the feet of a running forward.

Him and Cadden made a really positive impact and he's been he had more good games than be has bad.

I'd say if we went back and averaged out the players scores from 'This is what it feels like' (because that imo is the most reliable source of impartial player ratings!) I'd bet he'd be a solid 7.5

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Originally Posted by Greenio

Not going to judge a player on one game

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No but he's not really been up to much in most games , and his performance in the final was shocking .

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Originally Posted by Greenio

I think he covers a lot of ground, isn't afraid to get stuck in and, most importantly, is the player I always felt was willing to plant a pass at the feet of a running forward.

Him and Cadden made a really positive impact and he's been he had more good games than be has bad.

I'd say if we went back and averaged out the players scores from 'This is what it feels like' (because that imo is the most reliable source of impartial player ratings!) I'd bet he'd be a solid 7.5

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Good analysis and probably fairer than mine.

I want to see more of Cadden. He's a big signing, but he never settled into the side, then scunnered by the injury.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

Hearts are *****. They'll be lucky to finish top 6.

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They are ***** but they will still take too many points of us next season as usual. :grr:

Back on topic Jackson Irvine flatters to deceive, absolute passenger in recent games. Get rid and free a wage up. Couldn't hit a barn door wi a banjo.

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Originally Posted by Half Pint

They are ***** but they will still take too many points of us next season as usual. :grr:

Back on topic Jackson Irvine flatters to deceive, absolute passenger in recent games. Get rid and free a wage up. Couldn't hit a barn door wi a banjo.

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You could substitute Joe Newell for Jackson Irvine in your last sentence and it would be accurate.

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Originally Posted by Since452

All joking aside id love us to sign Snodgrass. Exactly the type of player and character i think we need after last Saturday. Pretty unrealistic i'd have thought though.

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Snodgrass will be 34 shortly after the season starts so not much magic left in the tank

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Originally Posted by CMurdoch

Snodgrass will be 34 shortly after the season starts so not much magic left in the tank

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Come on he’s played well in premiership and championship lately..more than enough for a few seasons up here surely ?

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Originally Posted by jeffers

You could substitute Joe Newell for Jackson Irvine in your last sentence and it would be accurate.

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Yes would band Newell in same category as Irvine ******g useless. Personally would like them both out and replace with anyone that didn’t blow out their erchie after 5 minutes

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Yes would band Newell in same category as Irvine ******g useless. Personally would like them both out and replace with anyone that didn’t blow out their erchie after 5 minutes

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Neither of them do that.

We need midfielders who stamp their authority on a game, tackle like their lives depend on it, control the centre circle and have an eye for goal.

As much as I like an elegant player with an eye for a clever pass, Jackson is none of the above

In my opinion, Jackson Irvine is a terrific player. Industrious, skillful and always looking for the ball. Unfortunately, the chance that he was afforded in the final was missed, I rose out of my chair to celebrate the goal when it came to him but it was not to be. I hope its not the last time we see him in a Hibs jersey as he's definitely a player we'll miss.

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Originally Posted by marinello59

The Australian FA will have insurance.

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They do

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Originally Posted by Onion

You're not serious however you would like to think Hibs will be carrying out an honest post mortem on that Cup Final, rather than writing it off as a bad day at the office as so many on this board want to. The performance suggests there was something deeply wrong with many of the players attitude/mindset from start to finish and Hibs need to get to the root if it. If part of the solution is moving players on, so be it, but a nuclear destruction of the whole squad feels a bit OTT.

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I never want to hear from the manager or players another utterance along the lines of

‘We have to treat the cup final like any other game’

It’s a fX#$&$#% cup final!!

I remember Alex Miller used to say the exact same thing before derbies.......worked well for him!

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In my opinion, Jackson Irvine is a terrific player. Industrious, skillful and always looking for the ball. Unfortunately, the chance that he was afforded in the final was missed, I rose out of my chair to celebrate the goal when it came to him but it was not to be. I hope its not the last time we see him in a Hibs jersey as he's definitely a player we'll miss.

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That chance is still playing through my head in slow motion. Would have given us so much confidence.

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That chance is still playing through my head in slow motion. Would have given us so much confidence.

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To be fair to Irvine he did well to get a shot away and force the keeper to save. However I'm convinced we wouldn't have lost had it gone in.

Don't think we will see him back at ER

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In my opinion, Jackson Irvine is a terrific player. Industrious, skillful and always looking for the ball. Unfortunately, the chance that he was afforded in the final was missed, I rose out of my chair to celebrate the goal when it came to him but it was not to be. I hope its not the last time we see him in a Hibs jersey as he's definitely a player we'll miss.

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I see a player who constantly arrives too late to make a proper tackle,is poor in the air,desperately poor in front of goal,has the ability to see a telling pass but doesn’t make enough of them.Don’t know whether it was his break from playing because he tries hard but doesn’t influence games to any great extent.

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Originally Posted by Lago

Don't think we will see him back at ER

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I think he would have committed before going off to play for Australia. JR will know the situation and will be working on his replacement now.

We may already have Irvine's replacement in Magennis who is best in a central position.

If Magennis turns out to be the player Ross expects, then a midfield of Gogic, Magennis and Allan is very tasty.

Problem there though is that leaves Murphy as Allan's understudy and nowhere for Mackay.

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We may already have Irvine's replacement in Magennis who is best in a central position.

If Magennis turns out to be the player Ross expects, then a midfield of Gogic, Magennis and Allan is very tasty.

Problem there though is that leaves Murphy as Allan's understudy and nowhere for Mackay.

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That is quite a big 'if' though, Magennis has shown next to nothing so far IMO.

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Originally Posted by ekhibee

That is quite a big 'if' though, Magennis has shown next to nothing so far IMO.

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Unfortunately true.