Outstanding today, delighted he got his goal as well. Amazing that hearts let him go.
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Outstanding today, delighted he got his goal as well. Amazing that hearts let him go.
He reminded me today of when Gareth Bale broke through at Spurs. Every time he got the ball he did something positive and forward thinking with it and could have had two or three.
Josh was fantastic today and thoroughly deserved his goal, motm by a mile
Let's hope he picks up more trophies fir Hibs than the legend he is replacing.
Nice thought but he'll be signed for big money sooner or later. He's got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
Deserved MOTM today I think. There is room for improvement on his crossing but he looks threatening every time he’s on the ball. This season will do him good and I think he will be one to watch next season.
Spurs bought Gareth Bale for £13m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
It’s a wee bit of a stretch to compare Josh Doig to him.
I actually thought he put in several great crosses today.
Overall a fantastic display, thoroughly deserved MOTM and delighted he got his goal too. :agree:
What's his contract situation?
Will go all the way in the game and will make Hibs a fair few quid. Such a likeable boy and will deserve everything he achieves.
Gets himself right up the pitch to support the attacks. Can see his fitness has really improved from the start of the season
I meant more in movement, attacking intent and the sheer confidence and positivity. Not saying he’s as good as Bale, just his attitude is similar. Get the ball and make something positive happen. It’s something that will see him go far.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulSmith
Absolutely superb.
When does his contract run to?
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I never got to see the game today as I was working but I was surprised at how everyone said he was amazing after he scored as before that I never saw him mentioned on the match day thread other than 1 cross and a shot
Delighted for him though as I thought his form dipped a bit after the rumours of Him leaving.
Good player and great prospect.
He looks the real deal to me, but I also thought that Paul Lovering would go on to play for Scotland so maybe I know diddly squat about left backs!!
Is this the best season an 18 year old has had for Hibs in modern history?
Cant remember what age Broony/thommo were but not sure they were as young as Josh?
2023Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
He is doing very well, will still have good games and bad games still learning but showing great promise.To put things in a bit of perspective John Brownlee was playing for Scotland at 18
:greengrin
I think Josh is a diamond, a fantastic prospect. Played well today and was well chuffed for him that he got his goal. Only slight criticism of him today was that he floated a few crosses straight into the keepers arms, but this lad is good now and is only going to improve, just hope we an get a few seasons out of him before the "big boys" coming knocking .... and they will.
Could of had two if his bullet of a shot in the first half went anywhere else but the keeper (whom also had a good game) shame there weren’t any fans to celebrate with him but hopefully we will soon !
Yeah, and he was rubbish for 2 years at Spurs as well. Almost got loaned to West Brom I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulSmith
John Collins if you want to go back a bit further.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Marvin
Probably time to offer him a senior player contract now and put a few years on that deal. He’ll be earning next to nowt just now and will appreciate the extra income.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibee_girl
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Was close to signing for McLeish at BirminghamQuote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-defender.html
Thought he played really well, he's a really great young prospect and as some have said he will get better. He's not, at the moment, the best crosser of a ball, but he's also very deceptive IMHO, often he looks as if he just wants to run head down to the byline, but then he's able to cut inside between two players and put in a great pass. And it was great to see the look of joy when he scored today, good on him, he's got a bright future, of that I have absolutely no doubt.
Yep, we should be putting him on a contract that reflects his position in the squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
We should be looking to roll that over with wage increases each year as he continues his development if it continues to be justified.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibee_girl
We should try our best to ensure top assets have 2-3 years left throughout their time here.
Edit: roll it over +1, I keep forgetting it's 2021.
Was terrific today. Often see young players break through, do well then go backwards.
This lad is getting stronger and better with every game. Looks every part of the first 11. If he can keep his head together and continue to progress, he's got all the attitudes to make a very good living from the game. Exciting prospect.
A superb performance today, the lad will be a real future prospect for us, have to thank our deluded neighbour's once again
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Very good performance today, he's working very closely with Stevenson so hopefully that professionalism rubs off on him, he'll have the odd bad game but that's because he's still young, great prospect though.
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Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762
Could have replaced Hickey at left back.
It’s all a bit of a laugh eh?
Man of the match today.
Tremendous energy gets himself up the wing and put a few good crosses into the box.
We should definitely be looking to get him on a better longer contract , if he keeps progressing how he is can see him getting a big money move.
I thought his performance today was very much like the performances Tierney put in at Celtic.
How good a striker of the ball is he as well. Seems to hit it clean as a whistle every time he hits a shot. Been so unlucky with them this season so deserved a tap in to open his account.
Really enjoyed watching this boy. Most excited I've been about a youngster since Riordan. Hopefully the powers that be get him signed up on a proper contract pronto!
What a talent.
Hes visibly getting fitter and stronger as the season progresses. Hes got everything to make it at the top imo.
Get him tied down on a long contract. Stay another year and me could get record money in for him.
Im delighted but cant get my head around why they would let him go?Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
GGTTH
Craig Levein.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergos
He thinks/thought that there was a better prospect at Hearts academy. lol
Was saying during the game he's more Tierney than Robertson. If he's even half as good as Tierney in a few years he's some player.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Josh Doig looks like a modern day left back for me, the way that he gets down the wing, puts crosses in and makes things happen taking players on, he showed yesterday that he can play a bit as well.
No no no, he’s the natural successor for Hanlon at centre back.....
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Originally Posted by Unseen work
TBH he was initially when he was signed, he moved to LB at Queens Park and blossomed, Mackie was seen as Stevenson's successor but Doig has taken to the position and thrived.
He’ll be long gone unfortunately, before that happensQuote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Folk need to temper the praise for Doig with a bit of reality.
He did a lot of good things yesterday but there were also things he did that folk would have gone nuts about had we lost.
He is doing well in many aspects of his game but has lots to work on.
It's great that he has played so many games this season and as a result he has improved and looks comfortable which is half the battle for young players.
Like Porteous I don't see him leaving before the end of next season. Both are still in the improving decision making aspect of their development. Better learning that at Hibs.
We’ll lose him in the summer of 2022, I’m certain of it.
I’m enjoying every second that he’s here.
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Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
Keeps playing like yesterday and he'll be away this summer for big bucks.
Craig Levein felt that Hibs needed another left sided player after Jason left 😂.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergos
Would we due them a small development fee from any future transfer fee we may receive when he moves on?
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Originally Posted by Is It On....
No they let him go.
Doesn’t matter, under FIFA rules Hearts would be due a training compensation fee if we were to sell him before he turned 23.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
“2.3 Compensation shall be paid on each occasion the player changes club up to the time his training and education is complete, which as a general rule occurs when the player is 23 years of age”
https://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/3711.pdf
Fantastic player, really hope we hold onto him.
Are we his boyhood team or is it them?
Yeah, I believe so, something like 0.5% of the fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Is It On....
Hearts wouldn’t be due anything for Doig surely?
They released him.
If they offered him a contract which he declined to sign for us that’s a different story.
I’m sure to be able to claim a fee you need to offer a contract in the first place.
Not sure what to make of the DJ playing the Lewis Stevenson song after his goal though, :confused:
Think Hearts got money for Cummings when he moved to Forest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
I’ve posted the FIFA rules above. Any club Doig trained with up to the age of 21 will be due a fee if he moves clubs prior to turning 23.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Likewise for Oli Shaw’s move to Ross County. It should be noted in the grand scheme of things the amounts will be pretty small.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Yep think the Record indicated a 5 figure fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
In talks over a new deal
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...d-deal-3142622
Excellent.
Yesssssss
Hibs have become much more proactive with contracts recently. I think losing some good players for either nothing or much less than we should have got has hit home.
Brilliant news.
Give him a bigger pay day on a longer contract and it'll mean we get a lot more money for him if offers come in, nothing more than he deserves though.
I hope he signs.
Them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
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Originally Posted by andudare2
Baffling that they released him 18 months ago. The talk about Hickey moving on had already started back then and the timing was perfect for Josh to replace him in their team.
Ah well.
Not so sure about that. Maybe we publicise it more.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Every chance we will lose Rocky, Irvine and Newell for nothing in the summer.
Irvine was a 6 month deal. We cant really be proactive with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
I think we probably have tried with Newall and Rocky but sometimes it isn't meant to be. I actually think both will stay. European groupstages is a massive gamechanger.
I hope you are right. We are going to need a big squad next season if we are in Europe until Christmas.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Fair comment.
Would be amazing if all three sign contract extensions. As you say, Europe would be a great incentive for them to stay.
They are keeping their options open especially Irvine.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
All players are generally as loyal as their options.
In the end they will all do what is best for them no matter what they say.
Would be brilliant to have him tied up on a longer and better deal.
I actually think he’s going to go on a bit of a scoring spree now. You could tell after he scored the goal how much more he wanted to get in the box and was driving forward.
Having someone of his size arriving late at the back post is a real threat and I think his goal will make him grow in confidence.
It really is quite incredible the progress he’s made in 6 months.
I’ve said on numerous times how the first couple of games I wasn’t convinced. It seemed more like we were forcing him into the team in the hope he would be good. He was poor defensively and although he’d bomb forward there was no real quality or composure.
That was clearly nerves and getting used to first team football.
Now he takes men on and whips great crosses in. Even on Saturday he showed great skill when the defender was quickly onto him, he nipped it round one side and ran round the other. The performances he’s put in especially against Tavernier, Frimpong etc show how good he is especially against better opposition.
He dominated the whole left flank.
He could go all the way to the top, he has everything and is still growing.
Really hope he signs an extension great young player and managed brilliantly by JR this season.
Took him out of the team earlier on when he started struggling a bit and has came back in and not looked out of place
New contract incoming for Newell
One down, one to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
He will stay. Hearts should rightly be spewing. Maybe we could nab Irvine off them also and have the two Portys and Porto in the side.
You've completely lost me with that sentenceQuote:
Originally Posted by The 90+2
He’s about 10 levels below Newell.Quote:
Originally Posted by The 90+2
What players would you be referring to ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
McGeouch, Cummings and McGinn automatically come to mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by gorgiegreens
Doig and Irving - Porty. And Porto. I amuse myself sometimes mate. Makes sense to me 🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
He’s a brilliant wee footballer wasted at they knuckledraggers.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbysam
With you now, I was thinking Irvine as opposed to Irving.Quote:
Originally Posted by The 90+2
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Originally Posted by scoopyboy
He really isn’t. Watching him anytime he’s on the tele and he’s miles behind Newell. His highlights reel is alright as he puts a decent delivery in now and again, 90% of his crosses and passes are overhit, zero defensive ability and it’s showing weekly.Quote:
Originally Posted by The 90+2
He’s plenty ability IMO, is pretty highly rated and part of the Scotland u-21 set up prior to lockdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbysam
Think he’s playing with the wrong team myself but I know he is Hearts daft and has been there since he was very young so I doubt you’ll need to bother too much about him heading to us anytime soon.
Irving hates the Hibs... not a chance he would come to us. I actually think he is decent but we are looking at levels above that now.Quote:
Originally Posted by The 90+2
McGeouch, Mcginn, Fyvie, Scott Allan first time left with a year, plenty others too. We seem a bit smarter in that department now.Quote:
Originally Posted by gorgiegreens
I think we are doing better but at the end of the day you can't make a player sign a contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Of the ones you mention I'm pretty sure they were all offered contracts.
But were they offered deals before other clubs were sniffing around? Could we have added a year to eaches deal after the Scottish cup win for example?Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
If Fyvie's case 100% but he thought he could do better.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
McGinn was but he was always moving on.
McGeouch was but he didn't like Lennon.
As I said earlier you can't make players sign extensions, they know how the system works.
I have never seen anything in him that made me sit up and think "hes worth a punt" anyway but I have always thought that professionals making those views known are a bit daft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
I know you cant make players sign extensions, but being proactive about it does no harm. Offering them a deal with 6 months to go isn't better than with 18 months or 2 years to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
How do you know we didnt?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
I don't. But considering for years we consistently had our better players going to the last year or 6 months and leaving for less than they were worth, and now we're managing to keep a few (Boyle, Newall and getting the youngsters on longer deals) I'd say we're doing something a bit differently or better.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Don't really know why folk are all over me for this CRAZY suggestion.
You are right, apart from the players we did get to sign extensions to their contracts, we let them run their contracts down, even though you dont know if we offered them contract extensions or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Yes i think that just about covers it.
Is there seriously any need for this patter? I just suggested we are doing something differently and seem to be more proactive with renewalls. I apologise for that obviously outrageous suggestion.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
I'm quite clearly not suggesting we didn't offer players contracts. I'm saying now we seem to be getting renewalls done actively and staying on top of these things. Thats all.
I guess I should just stick to utter chronic patter like ''hur dur, is this a bigger game than the last big game'' like you do.
Our failure to achieve promotion in 2015 and 2016 is probably a key contributing factor to contract negotiations not progressing far with Allan, McGinn and McGeouch at those times. As a club we couldn’t have offered much in the way of a pay bump and as players they would be unlikely to commit to stay longer at a club failing to meet their sporting objectives.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Yeah, that is probably true. Certainly weakens our bargaining position.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
I'd say we are not doing anything different, we are making these signing extensions just like we have always done, and the players who dont want to sign them wont until they weigh up their options.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Nothing has changed at all as you are saying.