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I really rated him a couple of years ago. Don't know if he's still got it, but a 31 year old holding mid usually has a couple of years in his legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by RSS Bot
A bit of cover.
Could be a good signing. He was very good against us in the game where St Mirren stayed up in the Championship (I think it was that game anyway). He’ll be back up to Gogic I’d imagine.
I’m happy with this
Only left St Mirren due to injury, and was their captain last season
Ross rates him, gives us cover, probably very low wages. No. Inside info but can reckon Halberg will be moved on
Family deal :). Welcome Stephen..and good luck !
We’ve completed the set!
Is there a cousin McGinn that’s next ?! Should be a good addition when called upon.
Come home SJM!!!!
This must be a joke
Can’t say im overly happy with this but willing to give the benefit of the doubt.
Hes been training with us since we started back up but it’s took us until now to sign him on a 1 year deal? Seems very like we’ve not got who we’ve wanted and this is the back ups back up.
Its not like he was an unknown quantity either and wanted to assess how good he is, he’s been in the league for years and Ross has even managed him.
I imagine he will only ever be used as backup for Gogic however.
Your post isQuote:
Originally Posted by S4uzee
Cant say I'm happy with this. More wages that could go towards real quality. Whittaker is easily a better player than McGinn IMO. So is Slivka. Strange to release both and sign him.
Hopefully he does well. Will have full support from me.
Mcrorie to mcginn....
Get rid of Slivka/Whittaker and bring in Stephen McGinn, ok thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Hopefully he has as much to offer as his other brothers.
I'm not going to make the same mistake and write off a McGinn before he's had a chance to show what he can offer us! Paul has made me look a right mug, and gladly so!
Feel Absoloutely rotten saying this, as he's a Mcginn. But He's been training with us for about 3 months. And only just been offered a deal now. Says it all. No one else wants him, jack ross doesn't want to see his pal go without a wage. So he makes a role up for him. We've already got Gray and Mcgregor for 'experience and leadership' off the park. This isn't a retirement home. We miss out on Mccrorie and they hit us with this? Away hibs. It's a regular starter we need. If he's on peanuts and it's just a bit of cover fine. But we need a midfielder that's going to walk into the starting line up and drive us on.
How come?Quote:
Originally Posted by S4uzee
I thought this would happen.
I really hope this isn’t the final midfielder we sign.
He’s been helping out with the coaching side of things, watching the games from the stand whilst sending info down to the dugout. I’d imagine that’s what he’s here for but he also gives us an extra body in the midfield if needed
If he is even 75% the player Paul McGinn is/50% the player John McGinn is this is a good signing :greengrin
In all seriousness, happy with this. Won't be expensive, good experience and has apparently been very useful for tactical use from the stands in recent games. Very low risk signing.
I suspect he’s not the McCrorie replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by JammyDoidger
We've got McGinns, the super McGinns. 💚
Probably for a fraction of the costQuote:
Originally Posted by S4uzee
Slivka said he was offered a new contract but turned it down
Whittaker might get more game time with Dunfermline than he would here. Don't see the problem myself
Why can't Gray or Mcgregor do that? I thought that was part of the reason for the 4 year deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by davhibby
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by JammyDoidger
People really should not be comparing this with Paul Mcginn, this is totally different.
We are 2nd in the league in the middle of the biggest financial crisis to ever hit the game. Cool your jets. Hibs have given Ross good backing in the current climate yet a few posters are really upset we have missed out on one or two signings to cash-rich Aberdeen. From a level-headed perspective, Hibs have done really well this window so far. This is a low-risk and low-cost signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by JammyDoidger
Clever signing from JR, great cover for Gogic and obviously another leader on and off the field. Welcome to Hibs Stephen :flag::flag:
Totally get that, but why has it taken this amount of time for Mcginn to get signed up? We are struggling to get someone, and he's struggling to find a club.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Spaceman
Firstly, he is nothing like Gogic as a player. At all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheffhibee
Second, why is he a leader? Because he captained a gash St Mirren side? Gray, McGregor, Hanlon. Those guys are leaders and cup winners.
Cash rich Aberdeen?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Spaceman
They aren’t paying a fee for McCrorie until next year. Their other big summer signing, Hayes, has deferred his wage for a year.
Yes we are but over the next week or so I’d expect us to slip down to 4th which is still goodQuote:
Originally Posted by The Spaceman
Your financial argument/rationale for signing McGinn is a bit out the window when we were close to getting McCrorie who would have cost a decent fee and much higher wages.
Maybe low risk and low cost but that money could have been the difference in getting a better player in
Slivka was not released, he rejected the new contract we offered, don't let facts get in the way of a good moan.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Or maybe it’s just taken a while for both sides to negotiate an acceptable deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by JammyDoidger
The way he talks in his interview makes it seem like he's very much being considered as backup.
Good signing for that role. Clearly this signing isn't the alternative to McCrorie or any other first-pick midfielder. Calm down.
Because he was working for us for free during a pandemic which has decimated every budget in the league. Do you know that he never had offers to go elsewhere? Nah thought not. This is a good signing for Hibs, he is a good pro and a good player. I fail to see why people look for negatives every time we sign someone smfhQuote:
Originally Posted by JammyDoidger
Not having that. Signings like this is what holds back our younger players aswell. Much rather play a youngster for the odd game Mcginn will play. Pointless signing for me. Just keep every penny and throw it at a starter!Quote:
Originally Posted by davhibby
Only cup winners can be leaders?Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Pretty sure St Mirren fans talk about him being a big factor in him staying up.
Paul played in gash St Mirren team but seems to be doing OK
John was relegated with St Mirren i think?
Boys written off already! Wouldn’t expect anything less from .net!
Been with us a while so maybe been proving his fitness?
Similar comments about Paul too iirc when he signed.
I wouldn’t expect him to be the MF player replacing McCrorie but cover and a bit of experience both on and off the pitch.
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No negatives about Nisbet or Gogic? There's negatives pointed out, because they are there for all to see. Doesn't mean I won't support him if he pulls on the jersey. But not for me this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
Youngsters not being good enough is what mostly holds youngsters backQuote:
Originally Posted by JammyDoidger
He was injured for a long spell last year, maybe both parties were seeing how he held up before making it official, folk really need to calm down, it bacially states in Hibs statement that he's only here for cover until the end of the season, I'm sure they are we on the hunt for other players some people would be more happy withQuote:
Originally Posted by JammyDoidger
When we played without Gogic a few weeks ago we looked lost and many of us have been criticising Hibs for not having a strong enough first choice midfield, let alone cover.
I'd be disappointed if McGinn has been signed to solve all our midfield woes, but I'm very happy indeed to have him on board. He's not going to start every week and be our best player but he'll mean that we aren't petrified every time Gogic goes down with a knock, or picks up a few cards and misses games via suspension.
I take his length of time with us as a positive - he's been there long enough and hasn't looked like he wasn't good enough. He's had a chance to get fit, get up to speed and see how he looks with the rest of the players. Ross has looked so far to be pretty good with the transfers and this is another player he knows well, so I'm happy to trust him on this one.
Paul McGinn has been an unsung hero who is now starting to get the appropriate level of praise that his play merits. If he can do anything like that (and his credentials as a player suggest he should be more than capable) then this could be a great signing.
Do players just stop being able to play once they reach 31 or 32? The way some folk chat on here you'd think so anyway. Christ, give the guy a chance to show what he's capable of.
Fair enough. Welcome Stephen!
Couldn’t agree more with your post absolutely spot on 👍🏻Quote:
Originally Posted by The Spaceman
Slivka and Whittaker were decent on the ball when given plenty time but were absolutely useless when the other team had the ball. Don’t know much about mcginn but hopefully he’s a bit more robust in midfield than Newall.
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I believe we signed him so that those posters, largely missing since Saturday, could return to this board! Seriously, it's a cheap, short term contract to bring in a popular, experienced guy as back up. Whats not to like? I doubt it will have any impact on our overall signing strategy.
PS, it now looks like history is being rewritten & the signing of Whitty was met with universal acclaim!!
I can't imagine why anybody would get upset at us signing a proven Premiership quality player, with an excellent family history at the club, as inexpensive backup.
Stephen brings experience, leadership, value to HTC and he can certainly play a bit too. This signing makes perfect sense for both parties.
Right but he's shown nothing to suggest he is the level of Paul McGinn never mind John. Paul actually played and was wanted by that St Mirren side.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
It doesn't matter really, does it. 2 guys left for nothing, both of whom are better than Stephen McGinn IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
I just really don't understand this signing. If his name wasn't McGinn and he didn't have a decent game against us about 4 years ago, plenty others would be unhappy as well. Bizarre signing when the money could be going to a real quality player in an area we desperately need one.
Slivka 😂, nah sorry can’t agree with that mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Paul McGinn came in as a starter from another side, one of their better players by all accounts, when we desperately needed someone in that position due to injury. This is not the same at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Absolutely no one has written him off either.
This board is like Coldplay in forum form.
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We will sign another midfielder. JR confirms he’s looking for further investment in the team and a few more will be leaving too. No need to get your knickers in a twist.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoDoidge
Agree BrogQuote:
Originally Posted by brog
When's Niall signing? :greengrin
Happy with this signing, I was also happy at the time when we signed Paul. I respect the right of posters to voice an opinion, but let’s see how he does in a Hibs jersey before slating him.
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
They have Jammy Doidge and a number of other negative comments. Stephen McGinn has played at a decent level down south.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
He will come in and do a job when asked.
My observation/perception.
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Well said Billy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Not having that. Signings like this is what holds back our younger players aswell. Much rather play a youngster for the odd game Mcginn will play. Pointless signing for me. Just keep every penny and throw it at a starter!Quote:
Originally Posted by davhibby
Every disco DiscoQuote:
Originally Posted by DiscoDoidge
You're easily confused eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
He's helped out for nothing since we started back, good seasoned pro with experience who'll be on very little in the grand scheme of things.hell still help put Ross and cover if needed and unless you're privy to the money Hibs have, how do you know what is available money wise for players, the pish some folk come out with.
Can I ask you, do you trust Jack Ross and his signings so farQuote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Good move, we can put the hotel up now
Some folk on here don't half talk a load of pish !!!!
Young players shouldn't be playing odd games. They're better playing every week on loan.Quote:
Originally Posted by JammyDoidger
I'm always amazed how bitter some Hibs fans can come across if some aspect of Hibs business doesn't meet their approval. :confused:
You some sort of expert on players? Doubt very much if you know anything about him but it doesn’t stop you stirring s—-. Why don’t you leave signings in the capable hands of the manager and stick to supporting the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by JammyDoidger
It’s the same old posters thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Lago
They’d be better off posting on kickback, as I don’t think there real Hibs supporters, the way they continually knock everything we do
Welcome stephen :aok:
Decent cover and probably not on a lot
Very true....Fortunately, they have no say in our signing policy [emoji2][emoji106][emoji106]Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonHFC
Ross is giving game time to our youngsters, if they are good enough like Doig, he plays them. Maybe the rest of them just aren’t good enough. I’m struggling to think of anyone other than Scott Martin who has left us recently and gone on to do well for another club.Quote:
Originally Posted by JammyDoidger
Don't make it personal with your usual daft comments mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
You keep saying he is on bla bla money. I bet he is on more than we missed out on McCrorie on.
Cover? For what? He is nothing like Gogic.
Seasoned pro? Millions of them around.
Can we call him Ringo!
Under circumstances I’m happy about this. Maybe coincidence but as a team we are looking more solid and consistent with a core of Scottish players the managers knows and trusts. We won’t be doing a Hearts and have on film star wages for 5 years. Suspect it suited both parties, although each may have had a different plan A.
Right I’m off to change my last name to see if i can get mysef signed as well.
When you see the posters who’re reacting in the way you are does it really surprise you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vault Boy
A cheap, low cost, back up squad player with vast experience.
Or maybe we wanted to offer him a 1 year deal as cover and he waited to see if someone could offer him regular first team football?Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Decent cover, played at a good level his whole career and we know he'll have a great attitude
😄👍Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
I've not written him off as such. He was decent for St.Mirren a couple of years ago, He probably could 'do a job' but I wish we would come away from signing players that can just 'do a job' that's all. We need to sign boys to come in and fight for a place in our starting 11. You don't get any better signing boys that can 'do a job'. The Mccrorie one excited me as he's a young Scottish player with the potential of making us money, that's the signings we should be making.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Unfortunately Spaceman you will receive no plaudits for your level-headed approach on Hibsnet. Like his brother Paul he will be a excellent signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Spaceman
I've seen some tripe from you but this pish takes the biscuit, do you just type and hope something coherent comes out?Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Genuinely know next to nothing about him. Except his surname, so will wait and see how it plays out before I go making any mental predictions.
However you were negative saying it was a waste of a wage. No one know the budget and I am sure JR knows shays he’s doing. McCorie would have been a very good signing but it’s not to be. He chose Aberdeen and not us. We move on and look for someone else. SM is not his replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by JammyDoidger
I trust JR to sign who he thinks will bring the right quality and qualities to the team.
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“this pish takes the business” 😬Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
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Originally Posted by J-C
😂 If this is your “full support” I dread to think what any less would look like!Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
17 years Gordon! It's taken you 17 years to realise that!!! :greengrin :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonHFC
Some people are just really miserable. I hope they dont have family pets.
Happy with the signing.Folk seem to forget its not all about the first 11.We need a squad to cover injuries,suspensions and Covid 19.Its a long season and i dont see McGinn as a first pick but he will be handy for cover.Dont panic i am sure a first team pick will be signed soon.
With the UEFA Covid rule saying you must put a team on the park even if you only have 13 players then having options to pad your squad with reasonably proven cheaply in financially challenging times makes sense. He has a good CV, he has attributes we can utilise, he's not a poor player nor is he a world beater but he's a better bet than some in the current environment. Lets see what pans out first before we slate him or the manager.
Genuine question, but what did you think we signed his brother Paul ? I’m not saying you did but more than one poster said he wasn’t good enough if we wanted to be challenging for 3rd. I don’t believe the money we had earmarked for McCrorie has disappeared, maybe we will still sign another promising youngster with potential for making us money in the future. Like we did with Nisbet.Quote:
Originally Posted by JammyDoidger
An improvement on Whittaker and Slivka from last season imo.
Just reporting you now. Pathetic. Incapable of any kind of adult discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
He, along with all others gets my full support when playing for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
There always ends up being more posts about the negative posts, than there are actual negative posts, on threads like this.
Agree seems like sensible cover in the squad but no doubt won't stop drama queen style posts. Good experience in an area we are lacking. Always liked him as a player and imo will do a job when needed. Still expect to see another type of midfielder brought in.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Spaceman
Bloody autocorrect biscuit, hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
Stinks of we can't afford any of our targets...
That being said until he's made a **** pass after coming as a sub 5 minutes into his debut I'll give him the benefit of the doubt....
Murphy, McGinn....what next antony stokes...