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Again this year.
Why so negative. Its been done to death.
Who would you like in??
Doig is doing well and Mcginn steady.
What a superbly constructed post one game into a new season where the players have won, having had to play behind closed doors, and while the ability to make signings has been clearly affected by a global pandemic. Well played [emoji106]Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibiza
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What we need is a left back.
As in your post left back in 2014.
The boy bale isn’t doing much at Real. Seriously, what do folk expect? In my 30 years of watching Hibs you can probably count the number of true quality fullbacks on one hand - you need an abacus to count the bombscares so I think we should be happy with some steady performers and let the midfield do the creative attacking work.
Another three word slogan. Are you Dominic Cummings?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibiza
I think we probably are looking shapely for full backs, while with a club like ours there will always be scope for improvement should we have the resources.
I am not suggesting you are criticising Lewis and he didn’t start the game. There is a reason every one of the nine million managers who have had him at Hibs played him. Defensively he is solid. On the attack he moves and shows for the ball and is always available for the pass. If he has to track back he is in fifth gear. I read comments criticising him for his crossing. He plays what he is told, snappy ball to the first man, which usually doesn’t work but if it does it will lead to a goal scoring chance more reliably than a lofted ball, as well as keeping us safer on the counter-attack.
He is edging towards the end of his career, of course. Hopefully Doig offers a ready-made replacement. From the dev, there were options down the last few years, I was never fully convinced that Callum Crane was right for us, actually maybe more of a CM. I liked Kenny Waugh but it didn’t work out at Hibs. That’s probably why I don’t have a career in football management:greengrin
You'll probably take a lot of stick for your post Hibiza but for what its worth I agree with you and more. We still need a better centre half than what we have and all of our full backs are poor. A fully fit Gray would help but we haven't improved our defence in recent years. Whilst I'm happy with the win yesterday I think Killie will feel hard done by as Tam McManus said on his Twitter account. I know McGinn is on a contract but I wish we'd went for O'Donnell. Left back has been an ongoing problem....Doig may well be a prospect but from what I saw yesterday nowhere near ready. I worry about our back four or indeed a three for this season....still hasn't been addressed for meQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibiza
Doig has just played his first league game at 18 and didn’t look out of place. Written off already though, tremendous.
We have some proper clowns in our support.
After years of watching the likes of Kujabi, Hart, McGivern, Francomb, Maybury (not the worst) and Clancy, I'm pretty satisfied with 'no quality fullbacks' of the standard of McGinn, Stevenson, Doig and SDG.
This is tremendous 😂 Doig was totally fine and extremely confident on the ball. Taken off when he ran out of steam and Stevenson came on and was absolutely solid. On the other side Wright was fine, and McGinn does a shift at right back when moved to a 4. I’d rather this season we started off being more solid and have attacking players attack, better balance, which we showed yesterday.
I resemble that comment !Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore
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Originally Posted by Viva_Palmeiras
Good fullbacks seem to come in pairs - Laursen and De La Cruz; Murphy and Whitaker; Stevenson and Gray. Outside of those pairings, we’ve had journeymen at best as fullbacks. Maybe no coincidence that we are more successful with a pair of decent fullbacks.
I can't wait for Lewis/Doig to have good seasons and Mcginn to do well so I can bump this pointless, negative thread and laugh at it.
Yesterday the three defenders were superb IMO with Porteous the pick of the bunch, in the second half balls were continually pumped into the box and the three at the back dealt with it all, a good news story? No lets just turn it into a negative because we haven't got Van Dyke or Bale we have no ambition is that was is seriously being suggested?
Not sure why people bite. Fairly obvious fishing expedition.......
McGinn is a steady eddie, and Doig has just had his debut, in which I was impressed with. We still have SDG and Lewis too. Disagree with your point:aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibiza
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Originally Posted by Hibiza
Your probably too young mate, but missed the best of them all, Brownlie and Schaedler...Quote:
Originally Posted by Clarence
Now we're talking: The best full back pairing in my lifetime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggie
The best thing about the shut down was not having to read pish like this.
Long for the days of Lovering, Prenderville, McQuilken and Shannon
So I’ve heard from my old man and uncle. Did they not score a ridiculous number of goals as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggie
In my time watching Hibs we have probably had a handful of really good full backs.
The current incumbents aren't on a par with a young Whittaker or the imperious David Murphy, few would argue otherwise. They may not be the best we have had but they are far from the worst. Doig has played one competitive game so I'm not talking about him, he could be anything.
Sniff sniff?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibiza
Its not so much the goals they scored its the contribution to the team they brought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clarence
Shades was fitness personified, hard athletic....Brownie was more cultured, and scored more goals.
Both played for Scotland at some point in their careers.
I thought shades was great to watch...Hard as ****.
Watch the 7-0 goal highlights for Shades at the 6th goal. Or maybe the 7th. I’m getting old and there’s so many goals 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggie
I feel blessed that I used to watch them regularly, when I was young I never realised how good the were, just thought Hibs would always have players of their quality, ah well if only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myweebruv
Lets just get right behind the boys we have now, McGinn will grow in confidence with more games & who knows about Doig? To early to call yet, he may be the next star man! it does happen.
I'm with you 100%. I too grew up watching the Tornadoes and took it for granted that we would always have such talent at our disposal.Quote:
Originally Posted by SCHAEDYSHORTS
I recall also a young Des Bremner breaking through during the early 70's and even he struggled to get regular game time such was the quality of players he was up against.
Young Hibbies probably think we old uns are exaggerating the quality of the side that Eddie Turnbull assembled.
As you say a very talented side although strangely enough the full backs settled in before Eddie arrived.
They were immense, what a joy to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggie
Eddie Turnbull added Herriot, Gordon and Edwards.
He also added Des Bremner from Deveronvale who took John Brownlie’s place on the day the music died - a future European Cup Winner.
Bobby Smith and Iain Munro were decent as well.
Difficult to explain to younger posters exactly how good that side was - should have won more - but probably best summed when a poster responded to my many rants last season when he said “ let’s
face it the Tornadoes ain’t coming back! “
Before that it was Duncan and Davis and before that Fraser and Parke although that’s stretching the memory a bit⚽️🤒Quote:
Originally Posted by Myweebruv
We have solid full backs, would still like an upgrade on McGinn but in this climate I can’t see it. It’s brilliant Doig is getting a chance and you can see the hunger from Lewis when he came on as he’s a challenge now.
We’ve had worse but we’ve had better.
Its like lobbing a stink bomb into a classroom and running away.
Harsh on Lovering and Prenderville there, they did a decent job helping get us out the first division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn
Lovering was fantastic until injury hit. Overshadowed by Derek Collins, the most underrated Hibs player there’s been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgo
John Brownlie scored a fair number of goals and it wasn't unusual to bag a brace. Erich I can't remember him scoring at all but probably got one or two. He was a long throw specialist though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clarence
We'll be all right. Our full backs are never going to be Maldini and Cafu; it's Hibs. Let's see how we go; perhaps we'll see a new signing.
scored at darkheid in replay of game abandoned because of fog and the unwashed invading the pitch as we were winning 2-0. Rearranged game ended 1-1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inconsequential
Joe Davis and Bobby Duncan from the first team I ever saw.
I remember a Scottish Cup tie at ‘Firhill for Thrills’ Erich launched one of his trade mark long throws deep into the box the ball was cleared back out to him and he hit it first time on the volley straight into the back post postage stamp corner giving the goalie no chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Inconsequential
The first goal in a 2-0 win the late great Alan Gordon scoring the other the first of only five goals Shades scored for us in 434 appearances
RIP
I disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibiza
Was at the game, that was the year we reached the final only to lose to Celtic.Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
Aye and the other full back John Brownlie scored the only goal in the semi-final to beat the HunQuote:
Originally Posted by eastterrace
I was at the 2-0 game when the Celtic supporters invaded the pitch to waste time so the fog got worse, Im sure that the win would have taken us to the top of the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franck Stanton
Nowhere near ready are you for real? It was the young lads debut and he done absolutely fine, no idea what you think you’ve seen in that period to say that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeewilly
How many goals did Killie score from open play?
Very good point. Their goal was from an unstoppable brilliant free kick. I think we defended very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Pretty sure we won 2 0 in semi Alex Edwards scored second goal I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
I liked the look of the killie full back Mullin (I think his name was) got forward very well and delivered some excellent crosses. I think McGinn is sturdy and a good pro but in games at Easter Road where we should dominate the ball more I would like to see someone with a bit more attacking threat.
League Cup Semi-Final 22/11/1972Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Could I put a good word in for Grant and McLelland not to mention Govan and Paterson.:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by inglisavhibs
I feel dirty just by adding to this ludicrous thread but Bobby Duncan, Willie Miller, Graeme Mitchell, Alan Sneddon etc etc were all good quality professionals doing a fine job for the team. Not everyone can be a John Brownlie.
Me too. Happy memories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Criswell
I was impressed with McGinn on Saturday. Did all the basics really well and won a good tackle to set up the 2nd goal. Doig is young but appears to have bags of talent. I just hope he gets a run of games to properly settle into the team.
😢😢😢Sob!Sniffle!Sob! I wanted to be like him and I even tried my bestest. Sob!Sniffle!Sob!😢😢😢Quote:
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WtfQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnMcM
Have another Onion.Quote:
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That was supposed to be a light hearted response to the line I highlighted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse
Highlights at the back on Saturday:
No goals conceded. Ross said post match that they have been working hard on the defensive side of the game.
McGinn has another position. Did well.
Doig, an 18 year old kid was trusted by the manager to debut. That is a massive thing. I don't know if he will make it but he is in the mix which is massively positive. A boost to his confidence and self belief.
Stevenson came on and made a wonderful block to stop a shot which could easily have been the equaliser.
Defending and Squirrel were the positives from Saturday.
We conceded.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMurdoch
As well as replacing our rubbish full backs I think we need a new goalie as well, Marciano confirmed how rubbish he is by failing to stop that free kick that was pinged right into the postage stamp...
Dearie me! We could sign Ronaldo & Messi and some of our 'fans' would still find ways to criticise them...
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They’re the wrong side of 30 for a couple of posters 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by GRA
I am surprise this thread is still open. It has all the hallmarks of a trolling thread. OP posts a controversial opinion and then disappears completely, not offering anything to the discussion, no back up to their OP. If you think we don't have quality in the full back positions tell us why.
You need a lesson on how to send a letter.Quote:
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:greengrin class.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Brownlie and Shades -'Duncan and DavisQuote:
Originally Posted by Clarence
Had to settle for Duncan and SneddonQuote:
Originally Posted by cmcd
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Out of all the full backs I've seen, my 'dream paring' would be John Brownlie and John Parke....although obviously they did not play at the same time.
I know David Murphy would be high on a few lists, but I never got the chance to see him, other than on the odd video.
And for what its worth I don't agree with the OP
David Murphy was the perfect left back.
Shades' scored a beaut against San Jose Earthquakes. Like Squirrels rasper a couple of seasons ago.
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I thought our full backs were ok on Saturday - they needed more from the players in front of them - Burke had the run of the right hand side until he was near the box, where Doig kept him from putting crosses in. If you look at Killie's crosses, the vast majority of them came early and from 25+ yards.
Ideally Doig and Wright would have been keeping the Killie wingers occupied at the other end but they struggled to do so because we defended narrow in the midfield. I don't think that was a failing on the full backs' part.
Anyone else remember a couple of full backs back in the day started with great promise then just disappeared: Rab Kilgour and Tam Stevens?
Think that went unappreciated :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
Go back to KB!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibiza
I thought Sean Mackie looked a great prospect when he first broke through, looking great going forward in particular. But rather than doubling down on his efforts and upping the ante he seemed to take the foot off the gas and was criticised for putting on weight in close season 2019 IIRC. If he has learned his lesson I would expect him to challenge again for a left back slot this season - but ONLY if he's prepared to work his cajonies off and treat his body like a temple. He has competition from the youth ranks now in Doig and that can only be a good thing.
Nearly, but he did lack pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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Shades for me but we have been lucky with left backs EG Parke Davis
Shades for me but we have been lucky with left backs EG Parke Davis[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by cmcd
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Completely agree. Infant the full back 4 from the CIS cup final is the best we have had in a long long time (‘Murphy, Jones, Hogg and Whittaker (the young version😁 )Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
David Murphy with faster turn of pace would have went for much more than he did. Probably wouldn’t have been at Hibs in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Bear
What a player he was. Brilliant times.
Yep, Murphy with more pace would never have seen us, a bigger club would have had him in minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicSwirlingShip
He had superglue on his boots and could ping the ball well, but for DM it always comes back to that first touch. He really could trap anything he received, without spilling his brandy or dropping his cigar.........
The way he used to bring the ball down by just letting it touch the outside of his boot. Poetry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
It’s not as if he was slow either, he could shift once up through the gears. Can’t remember many wingers of that time giving him the runaround.
Short and long passes,no problem. Hard and fair in the tackle, great positional sense too. Glorious
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Originally Posted by Clarence
Brownlie and Schaedler, the best ever, certainly in my lifetime. 1972
willie Miller and Graeme Mitchell were pretty decemt. 1991
Steven Whittaker and David Murphy already mentioned 2007
SDG and Lewis, Again pretty decent, 2016
But see what a good fullback pairing has meant to Hibs. Every trophy won in my lifetime has had a “decent “ full back pairing
Hey first game of the season, against a great player ,he did a pretty good job. >I was impressed and Lewis cannot go on forever....The pace of Celtic wingers in past three years now have caused us problems at the back and we really need fresh players there..so far so good I reckon....give the youngster a chance he will be a talent ..and an asset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
Care to rethink! Both full backs were excellent again!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibiza
McGinn is pretty solid. Doig is a star in the making.
1st or 2nd?Quote:
Originally Posted by 90+2
Two quality full backs.
And a couple of no bad ones on the bench as well.
McGinn showed his importance to the team again tonight. Solid at FB in the first half, and gave us the flexibility to change to three at the back for the second half.
And Doig continues to impress on the other flank.
Boom boom 😄Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
This OP aged like a fine glass of milk
I really like the look of Doig,seems fearless with a great engine,turn of pace and the skill to go past players,though to be fair I said the same about Callum Booth when he broke through under Calderwood!
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It appears to me this post was meant for a different forum, although our neighbours had a very big squad last season the lack of quality in the full back positions meant they weren't able to hold on to their place in the big league.:troll: