Accepting we don’t have e a great talent pool to pick from, is that all we have????
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Accepting we don’t have e a great talent pool to pick from, is that all we have????
Did it really need another thread?
Not sure?Quote:
Originally Posted by JXM73
Did it really need another sarcastic comment???
Ideally there'd be one thread for folk to post that they don't care about Scotland, one for folk to complain about people posting that they don't care about Scotland, and one for folk to protest that they don't not care, they're just not that fussed and would rather Hibs were playing.
And maybe a thread about the game, but that's optional.
Then sack whoever appointed him. Clean sweep required at the SFA.
McLeish is clueless. Should never have been appointed in the first place.
Wasn't it Rod Petrie and McRae who were the driving force for getting him back?Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
There's regular calls for heads to roll at the SFA, usually after our predictable failures at national level and the complete inability to have a level playing field and consistency domestically.
Yet the staff never changes. I don't expect it ever will, and don't think things will ever get better.
You could have said the same about Hibs five years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny_Leith
It's just our negativeity as a nation holding us back.
Get him out and get someone interesting in, with new ideas, a proper project and give them what they want.
When Unai Emery interviewed for the Arsenal job he came in with detailed reports on players at the club(including youth players) detailing how he planned to use them and improve them. That would blow the SFAs ****ing mind. That's a proper manager. No more washed up old firm clowns.
Don’t know the level of Petrie’s involvement directly in bringing in McLeish but that performance tonight was much like Hibs when he was picking our managers.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
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Needs a major shakeup from top to bottom. Bit like ourselves when we got relegated. Can I see it happening? Most likely not.
He's an embarrassment. Laughing on the touchline 5 minutes to go when 2-1 down sums him up. We'll go nowhere but backwards under this clown.
Strachan should never have been sacked unless they had a superior replacement ready to take his place.
No one would say that McLeish was an improvement on Strachan. A bizzare decision by the halfwits who run our game.
Aye but can Emery play bowlsQuote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
We should have gone for Slaven Bilic. Someone with new ideas, no connection with the old firm, and did well with Croatia. Always impressed by him when he’s talking about the game on TV.
Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Suspect they thought managers would be queuing up for the job. How wrong they were! Supposedly even asked Walter before him.Quote:
Originally Posted by fat freddy
Is that the same McRae who was standing behind Sir David when he lifted the holy grail with a puss that looked like he'd smelt gas?🤔Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Not disagreeing, but easy to point out the flaws..... who should replace him??Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
That's most unlike you to have a snipe at Petrie. Anything, anytime will do eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I just want a thread to berate the performances of non-Hibs players, rejoice that we didn't have anyone involved in this nonsense and express boredom/a complete lack of surprise at the outcome. Is that really too much to ask?Quote:
Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish
Sacking McLeish wouldn’t solve anything. We need the government to start interfering with the sport in a manner that affects Hibs the least, but is still enough for us to be suspended from international football.
If he was interested Steve Clark. Moyes or go back on vended knee to Michael O’Neill.Quote:
Originally Posted by sauzee6_2
Knowing our luck we will end up with Warburton.
:faf: Excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
I reckon they should get Mike Russell on to it. Bright, pompous, loves the sound of his own voice. We'd be in trouble with UEFA in jig time.
I’ve nothing against Mcleish, he seems like a good guy and I’m sure he knows what he’s talking about when it comes to football.
I think the problem is he’s just not really relevant to this current generation of players. He’s an old guy that’s not won anything I n their lifetime and many of them are probably coming from young progressive coaches at their club to the likes of Mcleish and Grant trying to motivate them the way they were motivated 20/30 years ago.
Football has moved on, players attitudes have moved on and coaching has moved on since then. James McFadden is in that coaching side, I would guess his role within the camp is to try and mediate between the players and the management, I suspect he will be the one talking to the players to convince them not to down tools.
"Warburton's a fanny, he wears a Scotland hat..."Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Could work.
A bunnet wearing a Scotland hat?Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
Alex Salmond is currently 'available'!Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
**** it, here's an idea.
Scott Brown for Scotland player/manager. Not as radge as it sounds compared to the alternatives.
Yes. Look at the difference getting a good CEO made to us. Re-invigorated the club from top to bottom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Gave the manager the licence to focus on the team in a positive environment.
Clear out needs done Billy to provide momentum.
After watching that crap boyle has made the right decision
Not the player manager role but yes, someone relative to the current squad is needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
Darren Fletcher is another example of someone who would command the respect of the current generation and would ‘get’ the modern footballer, I’m sure there’s other examples but Mcleish to the current squad is a dithery old man that’s not done anything in football in a hundred years. He’s pointless and the players will know he’s out of his depth.
Get Scott Gemmill in
Not a bad shout.Quote:
Originally Posted by eastmainsmsh
Not at all surprised, we are a laughing stock between the home nations, to everyone else we are an irrelevance.
Our game is summed up perfectly when we look around...
Michael O’Neill turns us down to stay at NI
We are in the lowest league out of all the home nations
Iceland are in group A
We haven’t reached a major finals since 1998 meaning a generation now believes Scotland not qualifying is the norm rather than the exception it used to be
We lose 2-1 to Israel in a performance devoid of anything worth note
We are a joke and sadly I can’t see it changing anytime soon as the old boys club at the SFA look after themselves and themselves alone.
He’s not wrong though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Bear
Even if he did go I'd have no faith in the SFA appointing the next one properly. The Scottish National team is a joke.
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Originally Posted by frazeHFC
This.
Just to prove the point that we are irrelevant to the extent that other nations don't even know us -
Knock, knock
Who's there?
The Scottish National Team
The Scottish National Team who?
I'll get my coat.
lol he's going to pump her
Nothing against Gemmill but he would just be set up to fail anyway. It’s the whole organisation that needs cleared out.Quote:
Originally Posted by eastmainsmsh
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Would be my choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by eastmainsmsh
Mcleish has to go. He's finished.
Scotland get beat but you still manage another pop at hibsQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Remarkable Ozy
Petrie to blame apparently
Scotland v Portugal (friendly)
Tickets only £35 or £30 take your pick
No Ronaldo
If they played the game in my back garden I would walk over and close the curtains
No you wouldn't. Actually not a bad price to see Moutinho, Andre and Bernardo Silva etc. Portugal won the euros 2 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
There is no way we should be even considering sacking our manager now. The last game - only his first competitive game - was very encouraging, with pretty much the same team who played tonight.
Tonight we played pish and lost. Big deal, that is going to happen to us from time to time.
We've still got time to do well in the Nations League, then we've got the proper qualifiers. Then we can re-assess the manager's role.
If there is any player who doesn't respect what McLeish has done in the game and does not respect the position of the Scotland manager then he should not be considered for selection.
There are bound to be players who don’t respect him. Struggling to find a fan who respects him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
McLeish should have been nowhere near the job. He has done nothing in management for years. A dinosaur of a manager who is absolutely clueless.
Yes they won - by boring the opposition to death, anti football at it's worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
A pop at Hibs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster
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Try me!Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Won’t even watch it on the box
Would rather watch Countryfile Songs of Praise maybe not the new Dr Who have already told my Travel Club mates not to expect me!
Steve Clarke for the Scotland job anyone? Would he take it?
Or perhaps winning football at its best?Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyAsHellas
I wouldn't pay to see Scotland in a pointless friendly v Portugal and I won't watch it on TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Poland v Italy or even Israel v Albania hold more interest for me, but I doubt I'll watch either of those two either.
Is it grammatically correct to use "either" twice in 5 words like that?
I wouldQuote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
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I'm living in Glasgow now and was seriously considering the Portugal game but ticket prices are a massive turn off.
The team have just been given a doing and will lose by at least 2-3 goals on Sunday.
Why would I pay £30, particularly as its a meaningless game?
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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
:agree:
As long as you say I-ther of those two ee-ther.
Either way round.
30 quid for an international friendly is mental. Even more so when the current Scotland side are one of the teams playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
Wonder how many they’ve sold?
One born every day 😁👍🏾Quote:
Originally Posted by kaimendhibs
I'm a fan and I respect him.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
There ARE bound to be players who don't respect him - because a lot of players are dicks and it is inevitable with the egos that exist in modern football that there will be at least a couple who don't respond to a particular manager.
He's had a quiet last few years, that's for sure, but he's done enough as a player at both club and international level and as a manager to command respect of players. More than anything he's the man in the chair - for that alone he deserves respect and it doesn't reflect well on anyone who doesn't show him it.
We'll probably beat them.
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Originally Posted by HappyAsHellas
I suspect Portugal won’t need to go quite as negative v Scotland.
if the £ was right he might, would be my choice as well :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Cabbage 7
Spot on !! Remember when we actually used to care about the Scottish National side ? Nah, me neither !Quote:
Originally Posted by itslegaltender
And now!Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
No chance he'd take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Cabbage 7
I'd go for Anti NememiQuote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Unfortunately I don't think we will be considering sacking him.....but we should. That was a total shambles of a game in every department except the keeper. The players didn't seem to have a clue as to what the game plan was, if indeed there was a plan. If we had lost 5-1, which probably we should have, he should have resigned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
We definitely will not beat them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee
Here is my daughters reply when I asked, “ how low can Scotland go?
They have never been good in my lifetime so this is just normal😂
Says everything!!
Possible Managers we could get if Mcleish is goes.
Clarke - Don't think anyone would be disappointed with that
Alex Neil - bit young but I feel he would buy into a project/shake up
Steve Bruce - Dunno how I'd feel about a English man in charge, but beats mcleish
Henry - Maybe could see him taking it if offered but wouldn't feel confident with it being his first job
Big Sam - same as Bruce English man but beats anything we've had the last 10 years.
I hope we are looking for a replacement.
Thierry?! Seriously?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian32
Ian McCall.
I'm afraid I'm firmly in the apathetic camp when it comes to Scotland. They have been so bad for so long, my enthusiasm is zero. If we were good to watch, that would at least be something, but we aren't. Should we one day have a half decent side again, I'm sure I would re-discover some enthusiasm, but it seems unlikely. It's a shame really, yet that's how bad we are.
Neil Lennon.
Vaguely serious.
I feel this is what years of negative tactics and poor football have resulted in. Friendlies are poor because Scotland never experiment. We never play 2 forwards. Or 3. Or anything interesting. Or anyone interesting. It's usually just the same faces. Maybe a new one or 2 if an old firm player can't be arsed. They've been missed opportunities for a interested fresh faced manager to experiment like the bigger nations do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
I think a match between a positive, attacking Scotland side and Portugal would be well worth watching.
He's said international football is not for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve-O
Yet.
Aye right. Gerry Adams as his assistant? :hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by Steve-O
Don't want him to go...but would be an outstanding Scotland manager....Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve-O
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What's that about??Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
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You could probably say that if they didn’t draw the majority of their games and sneak through as a third place team out of four she to a new format.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Bruce, Henry and Allardyce wouldn't go anywhere near the Scotland job. The money wouldn't be enough. Failure would blow any chance of them returning to the top two leagues down south and any limited success ie tournament qualification would hardly enhance their reputations down south either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian32
Clarke and Neil would be mad to take it at this stage in their careers as it could be career ending.
The Scotland jobs become a pre-retirement gig. Any replacement for McLeish will come from that same pool of once decent managers who have nowhere better to go.
No chance Lennon could ever manage Scotland. There's really only one international team in these parts he could ever manage.
Get a foreign manager in, if not Alex Neil would be a good shout 5 year rebuild contract ....but to allow any rebuild the inept idiots at the SEA need replaced they are full of their own self importance and arrogance. The saying that a player is never bigger than a club, fits with this scenario all of them think scottish football can't survive without their decision making ...aye right !! How can fans influence this . A boycott of the Portugal game a protest at the Portugal game, it's better using this meaningless game at this stage of a campaign than at a game where we need unity and a result !!
Standing back as has been going on for years now has only resulted in us sliding further down the football scale ....
People take a pop at Petrie regards this because we have all witnesses his arrogance and rigidity in managing a footballing business, it's crap, the only reason Hibs are where they are is because of the capability of Leanne Dempster and character, where she has driven Hibs forward and brought success, Petrie has no option to go with it, because it's working big style and if he hampers with it at al! And if it goes pear shaped everyone knows it will be down to his risk averseness, old-school attitude and lack of personality .....Scotland going forward is no longer a risk in terms of making significant change to our structure ..as it's pretty close to rock bottom !!
I would nail planks up too. How dya like them apples?Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Not so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee
Either it's right or either it's wrong 😊Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Would be better making them half that price and getting maybe 35000.Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
There wont be 20000 there against Portugal..pretty sure of that.
What do we expect when Edinburgh's fifth best Scottish centre back gets a game?
None of my football supporting mates watched the game last night. I have mates who are season ticket holders at Easter Road and Tynecastle and not one peraon cared. It really is pathetic. The worst appointment ever was big Eck.
They did, but this ain't the euros and £35 is exepnsiveQuote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
:agree: The root of current problem. Not GJP's fault but the useless blazers who gave him the job. It's almost as if they WANT to destroy football in this country.Quote:
Originally Posted by CB_NO3
Count me in here too, I never even bothered to see what the score was till the news was on this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by CB_NO3
Wtf??Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
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If the SFA is made up of club chairmen and directors, how do we have a clear out of them?
They all leave and we bring in 12 or so other chairmen from different clubs? Will that really change things?
wowQuote:
Originally Posted by hibernia&alba
Is that really the price?? What a disgrace. Like you say I'd rather watch the Corrie Omnibus [emoji85][emoji85]Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
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The FA’s in other countries have very different structures. There are lots of different ways we can manage the game here.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
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Don’t agree with that. He spoke very positively about the role last time when asked about it...I think, at the right time, he would be very up for it...has always talked highly about scottish football..throughout his career...Quote:
Originally Posted by mayo hibee