On his way back to Scotland. Played and scored that goal against Barcelona under Neil Lennon. Chances on him coming here?
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On his way back to Scotland. Played and scored that goal against Barcelona under Neil Lennon. Chances on him coming here?
Very slim I'd say.
It’s on another thread, but does he not bring baggage similar to Stokes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
Could be the Jambo's - reported recently they were in talks with two out of contract strikers
Thought the reason he left Celtic was because him and Lennon didn't get on that well?
Things may have changed but I can't see him coming here. No inside knowledge or anything.
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Been at Hearts and failed. It’ll be Dundee or Ross County I reckon.
Can be sign for someone else just now if he’s been released outwith the transfer window?
Please no
Not good enough.
Literally the only thing of note he's done is that goal against Barca. Mark Burchill with a glory goal
allways room for another T WATT IN GORE GAY :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Franck Stanton
Scottish League 1 / Championship level player IMO.
did he say he was too good for the SPL?
:greengrin
no doubt he is decent but lacks self discipline
No!
Only released today so can’t play for another club in Britain until the summer
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Probably some Yam at the windup but Watt's current Wikipedia page says "He has recently signed a deal with Scottish club Hibs, where he rejoins former manager Neil lennon."
Wiki has just been changed and is currently showing “Watt has just signed for Scottish Hoofball club Hearts for a second spell”.. 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by The Leith Dutch
Would take him. Did pretty well for me back on Fifa 13. Then again if I remember correctly I mostly just signed him because the back of his shirt inexplicably read 'T. Watt'
In hindsight I may have edited that in. I forget.
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Originally Posted by Swanson's Swans
You’d take him because he done well on a computer game for you? 😐
Naa no thanks.
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Fancy him to return to Airdrie.
A 5 year old computer game 🤔Quote:
Originally Posted by hfc rd
Certainly hope not.
If it wasnt for that goal against Barca.....He would of been stacking shelves in Tescos years ago.
TBF he also had a purple patch on loan to Lierse around the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
That Barca goal plus the Lierse loan as a return of 11 goals in 17 matches and was 5 or 6 years ago.
The rest of his career contains a markedly less impressive 30 goals in 179 matches.
No thanks. If he was ever good enough it was years ago
Squad number at last club was 32.
Can’t be that bad a guy 😂😂
Don't think he'd be a good signing. Maybe as 4th choice on a low wage
Please god no.
If he was to come in and hinder the development of Oil Shaw by keeping him out the team it would be a disgrace.
A probably no from me. Boy can play a bit I reckon and playing for Hearts was never going to suit (although I recall him missing at least one sitter there).
Didn't he leave and announce something along the lines of him being too good for Scottish leagues anyway? Happy for things to stay that way.
Na
It's strange if he's only just been released today as it means he can't sign a contract with any British team until next season.
If he wasn't going to play, you would think his contract could have been terminated before the end of the January window.
He’s a clever player and quite similar to stokes in the sense that he drops deep and likes to create his own chances. I wouldn’t be against signing him but as other have said I wouldn’t want to sign him if it meant Oli Shaw is pushed back. Just because he played for hearts wouldn’t put me off him signing for us.
https://stv.tv/sport/football/138023...tish-football/
This “fandan” No thanks.
Seconded !Quote:
Originally Posted by EdinMike
Thirded!Quote:
Originally Posted by Deansy
Fourthded!Quote:
Originally Posted by Callyballybe
Personally I think he is only really saying out loud what a good number of players think anyway. No real problem with it myself.....Quote:
Originally Posted by EdinMike
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Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Yeah but there’s a reason other players don’t say it out loud.
He will lucky to be earning any money from football in five years time. Hope the money is good enough for him then...
He's a FREE AGENT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
If he wasn't a FREE AGENT when the window closed then he can't move to a club whose window is closed now until the summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big L
He is only able to sign for a British team before the summer if he became a FREE AGENT before the window closed.
Staggering he can come out with crap like that when a goal agsinst Barca is the only thing he's done. Scottish Championship level.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdinMike
Wasn't being completely serious lol. In reality he's an undoubted talent who has hitherto undoubtedly blown it. I wouldn't take him over what we have - especially if, as someone else posted, it would mean hindering Shaw's development.Quote:
Originally Posted by hfc rd
On the other hand I think we're still a little light up front and, Kamberi and Maclaren being the relatively unknown quantities they are, a bit more depth in the squad wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. And if anyone's capable of bringing out the potential in the boy then it's probably Lennon. If Neil reckons he's worth a shot then I'm willing to trust his judgement.
Given the transfer rules though it looks like this is all academic anyway.
Don't see a big deal in what he said. We probably need another striker and he has talent so wouldn't have an issue with it.
Massive no. Nowhere near talented enough or have a good attitude. Living off that Barcelona goal.
:agree: would rather we avoided him.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidDavidGray
He can't be transferred after the window closes, if he is a free agent he can sign at any time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Yes but he can't be registered as his registration was released after the close of our window so we'd be paying a player who won't actually be eligible til next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big L
Some Hibs examples on this. Jonatan Johansson became a free agent around the October/November (in line with the summer football season of the league he was playing in). He signed for us soon after but couldn’t play for us until 1st January.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big L
Derek Riordan’s contract unusually finished in the autumn (because his contract was signed before transfer windows existed). He signed a pre-contract with Celtic to take effect in the January. He was going to be in limbo between October and January as he couldn’t play. Celtic could not sign him immediately after his contract expired as they would not be allowed to play him in those intervening months as he was not a free agent at the end of the window. Hence why Celtic ended up doing the cut price deal in the summer.
Are yout saying that players can only sign and play for a club if they sign for that club within a transfer window, and that any player who does not have a club/contract when a transfer window closes can sign for a club, but can't play for that club until the next transfer window? If that's what your saying, then I have to disagree with you. Surely that would be viewed as restriction of trade. In my opinion Tony Watt, being a free agent will be able to sign and play for any club that wants to sign him.Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
Isn’t it if a player is binned after the transfer window he can’t then play until next season here in Scotland. He could go to say Sweden who I think are just about to start. I could be wrong but sure I read this somewhere!Quote:
Originally Posted by Big L
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_windowQuote:
Originally Posted by Big L
"Free agents can be signed by a club at any time during the season, if they had been released by their previous club before the end of the transfer window."
Knew I read it somewhere 👍🏼Quote:
Originally Posted by McS****y
Theres no many players that go to Tiny Tynie and play well. It is normally after they leave they play well, hertz kind of hoofba isnt good for their styles of play. Take a look at Johnsen they let go last season. Now on 9 goals in Holland.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeeRussell
That's your opinion but that's not how it works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big L
So, if the player was a free agent before the window opened, and was still a free agent when that window closed, he couldn't play for a club until the next window opened, furthermore, if a player and a club mutually agree to terminate the players contract outwith a transfer window, that, that player will not be able to play for another club until the next transfer window opens? If that's what's being said then again, I have to disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by McS****y
He’s a nightmare and has a stinking attitude.
Keep well away from
It is the reason you see players released on the last day of the window.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big L
If a player is not registered with a club at the close of the transfer window, they can register with a club out with the transfer window.
If a player is registered with a club at the close of the transfer window, and released after this, they cannot be registered with a second club during the"inter-window".
Exactly. It’s pretty straight forward!Quote:
Originally Posted by bernz
doesnt matter how many times you disagree, thats how it works, a player can be signed anytime a club wants but cant be registered until the next transfer windowQuote:
Originally Posted by Big L
Disagree all you want, yer wrong on both counts:cbQuote:
Originally Posted by Big L
Doesn't make sense to me, it prevents a person working and that can't be right!Quote:
Originally Posted by bernz
I feel a Bosman coming on :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Big L
So .........
* He was poor with Hearts
* He got dumped by his present club
* He has a known attitude problem
* He says clearly he does not want to play in Scotland and his style does not fit our football
* He is not available to play until the next window
WHERE DO WE SIGN? - Sounds ideal!!! :confused::rolleyes:
It is right, because generally players & clubs break contracts by mutual agreement. If a player doesn't have another club to go to then he will ordinarily be paid, at least in part, for the remainder of his contract. For example, this could be the equivalent of his basic wage (or a good percentage of it), without bonus or appearance money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big L
Check my earlier reply to you. That pretty much clarifies everything you need to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big L
Why do you think Stokes and Matulevicius were released before February 1st? It certainly wasn't for our benefit.
They would be able to negotiate their release with their club though, so you would hope that the fact that they aren't able to find a club until the Summer would result in either:Quote:
Originally Posted by Big L
1. Their club keeping them on until the Summer, or
2. Their negotiated payoff being higher due to the fact that they can't be paid by another team until the Summer
I seem to remember some players being able to get around this rule by registering with a new club as an amateur a few years back, I imagine those players' expenses may be quite substantial...
no it prevents them from playing, the club can sign them but not play themQuote:
Originally Posted by Big L
We'd be replacing Anthony Stokes with... Anthony Stokes, but ****.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green_one
No, I'm saying if you want to play for a different club outwith the transfer window you need to be a free agent at the point the previous window closed (meaning the window of the country of the club you are signing for). There's a few exceptions, e.g. emergency loans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big L
This is why clubs release loads of players in the final days of the January window as there would be no incentive for the player to go after that point if he wants to play.
I consider myself well and truly told!Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
That's the case but in reality very few clubs would actually sign a player in that scenario. They would generally sign them on a pre-contract, similar to what we did with Johansson and Celtic were going to do with Riordan.Quote:
Originally Posted by allant1981
As someone else said in this thread, it wouldn't surprise me if this was the next Bosman / Andy Webster style test case. I'm not sure the player would win though as the contract is usually broken mutually. It would have to be a scenario where a player was effectively sacked outwith of the window, e.g. if the Portugal incident had happened in February and we then sacked Stokes.
I disagreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Big L
Kick a man when's down eh, git!Quote:
Originally Posted by SaulGoodman
:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Big L
If it was allowed though then you'd effectively have no transfer windows (or one ongoing one).Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
True but I don’t think the courts would be too bothered about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael