#hibileaks/Hands On Hibs/BuyHibs (Merged)

Anyone else get handed the card with the question about asking STF why we rent east mains from him?

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Originally Posted by IanM

Anyone else get handed the card with the question about asking STF why we rent east mains from him?

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So we (Hibs) don't own it ?

The football club owns East Mains and pays no rent to anyone for it.

I'm sure the accounts or club recently said it costs the club about 1/2 million per year for the running etc

One of the fans handing out the cards was one of the protesters who disrupted the meeting with L D. Not sure about the truth of what the card said.

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Originally Posted by greenpaper55

One of the fans handing out the cards was one of the protesters who disrupted the meeting with L D. Not sure about the truth of what the card said.

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I am. It's absolute rubbish and I hope the ********s responsible for it get nowhere near ownership of our club.

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Originally Posted by IanM

Anyone else get handed the card with the question about asking STF why we rent east mains from him?

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I was handed a card outside the ground before the game.

One question on the card says as follows: I quote...

"HANDSONHIBS

Q) Can YOU also ask Tom Farmer, WHY OUR Hibernian Football Club is paying the Farmer family hundreds of thousands of pounds each year to rent the East Mains Hibernian Training Centre.....When in fact it was the multi-million pound sales of OUR young players plus Hibernian supporters own money that funded the build of the East Mains training centre?"

more information to follow...

#Hibileaks"

What's all that about? Who are #Hibileaks?

I was going to post on this but you beat me to it.

Never heard this before and there have been a number of accounts published since EM was built. Have to say I would need to see cast iron proof before I would believe it.

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Originally Posted by emerald green

I was handed a card outside the ground before the game.

One question on the card says as follows: I quote...

"HANDSONHIBS

Q) Can YOU also ask Tom Farmer, WHY OUR Hibernian Football Club is paying the Farmer family hundreds of thousands of pounds each year to rent the East Mains Hibernian Training Centre.....When in fact it was the multi-million pound sales of OUR young players plus Hibernian supporters own money that funded the build of the East Mains training centre?"

more information to follow...

#Hibileaks"

What's all that about? Who are #Hibileaks?

I was going to post on this but you beat me to it.

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Judging by the phrasing and not particularly effective use of CAPITAL LETTERS it seems to be that vaguely delusional boxing gym bloke that "stormed" one of the fan sessions...

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Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE

Never heard this before and there have been a number of accounts published since EM was built. Have to say I would need to see cast iron proof before I would believe it.

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There is no proof but those behind this ''campaign'' probably don't care. All they want to do is spread malicious rumours to further some as yet unknown agenda of their own. We all care deeply about our club and many of us want change but this does nothing to help.

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Originally Posted by Caversham Green

I am. It's absolute rubbish and I hope the ********s responsible for it get nowhere near ownership of our club.

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I also thought that Petrie etc always stated that players we had sold For large fees we used this money to pay for the purchase of EM and transforming it from farm to football facility. Never have i heard anything to the contrary till reading this thread.

Capitalising IMPORTANT words makes you come across as more INTELLIGENT and only serves to strengthen YOUR argument. FACT.

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Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE

Never heard this before and there have been a number of accounts published since EM was built. Have to say I would need to see cast iron proof before I would believe it.

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I have copies of all of the accounts since 2003 and they all show that no rent was paid to Sir Tom Farmer or any of his family. The only rent for land and buildings that was paid during that time was £24,000 per annum paid to HFC Holdings Ltd for the ticket office.

These leaflets are not only an attack on STF but also on the integrity of KPMG as auditors.

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Originally Posted by Iain G

Judging by the phrasing and not particularly effective use of CAPITAL LETTERS it seems to be that vaguely delusional boxing gym bloke that "stormed" one of the fan sessions...

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I got handed one of those cards yesterday but until now I didn't read what it said. Maybe we should phone Danny Dyer and get him to ask the guy what it's all about. Oh wait a minute he wet himself the last time he met this guy so have to think of someone else.

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Originally Posted by Caversham Green

I have copies of ALL of the accounts since 2003 and they ALL show that NO RENT was paid to Sir Tom Farmer or ANY of his family. The only rent for land and buildings that was paid during that time was £24,000 per annum paid to HFC Holdings Ltd for the ticket office.

These leaflets are not only AN ATTACK on STF but also on the INTEGRITY of KPMG as auditors.

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Fixed that for you CG, now I believe ya... :wink:

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Originally Posted by iwasthere1972

I got handed one of those cards yesterday but until now I didn't read what it said. Maybe we should phone Danny Dyer and get him to ask the guy what it's all about. Oh wait a minute he wet himself the last time he met this guy so have to think of someone else.

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No idea who this boxing gym guy is, actually no real idea who Danny Dyer is either! Joys of not living in the UK :wink:

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Originally Posted by marinello59

There is no proof but those behind this ''campaign'' probably don't care. All they want to do is spread malicious rumours to further some as yet unknown agenda of their own. We all care deeply about our club and many of us want change but this does nothing to help.

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There has been a rumour kicking about for a while that Farmer has been fleecing the club. Time will tell if this is true. All the card is really saying is let's ask the question. It also seems for many on here Farmer can do know wrong I can assure you Farmer is a businessman first and foremost so don't just disregard these rumours ( no smoke without fire )

There's also no full stop after 70th birthday.

Shocking.

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Originally Posted by WestStandMoaner

There has been a rumour kicking about for a while that Farmer has been fleecing the club. Time will tell if this is true. All the card is really saying is let's ask the question. It also seems for many on here Farmer can do know wrong I can assure you Farmer is a businessman first and foremost so don't just disregard these rumours ( no smoke without fire )

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Rumours huh, well that makes me believe this whole story!

You don't have to be paranoid to support Hibs but it helps...

And you can have smoke without fire btw :greengrin

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Originally Posted by WestStandMoaner

There has been a rumour kicking about for a while that Farmer has been fleecing the club. Time will tell if this is true. All the card is really saying is let's ask the question. It also seems for many on here Farmer can do know wrong I can assure you Farmer is a businessman first and foremost so don't just disregard these rumours ( no smoke without fire )

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By that logic.

I assert that Sir Tom Farmer personally owns Easter Road Stadium and has opened talks to sell it to Tesco.

No smoke without fire.

Dangerous things to say if no proof.

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Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith

By that logic.

I assert that Sir Tom Farmer personally owns Easter Road Stadium and has opened talks to sell it to Tesco.

No smoke without fire.

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I heard it was ASDA! :wink:

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Originally Posted by NW

Dangerous things to say if no proof.

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Whats that phrase, empty vessels make the most noise?!

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Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith

By that logic.

I assert that Sir Tom Farmer personally owns Easter Road Stadium and has opened talks to sell it to Tesco.

No smoke without fire.

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:agree:
Sir Tom Farmer partakes in illicit trout worrying.


No smoke without fire.

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Originally Posted by WestStandMoaner

There has been a rumour kicking about for a while that Farmer has been fleecing the club. Time will tell if this is true. All the card is really saying is let's ask the question. It also seems for many on here Farmer can do know wrong I can assure you Farmer is a businessman first and foremost so don't just disregard these rumours ( no smoke without fire )

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It isn't asking the question, it is making an allegation about STF.

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Originally Posted by WestStandMoaner

There has been a rumour kicking about for a while that Farmer has been fleecing the club. Time will tell if this is true. All the card is really saying is let's ask the question. It also seems for many on here Farmer can do know wrong I can assure you Farmer is a businessman first and foremost so don't just disregard these rumours ( no smoke without fire )

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The question is asked by the auditors every year, but the truth is that the football club OWN the property, therefore they can't possibly RENT it as well.

And it's not a case of STF doing no wrong, it's a case of objecting to defamatory rubbish issued by halfwits.

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Originally Posted by NW

Dangerous things to say if no proof.

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I am not saying I agree with the card all I am saying is this rumour has been around for sometime and for it now to be put in writing to the fans someone must be sure of their facts because if not I agree it is a dangerous quote for a number of reasons including legal

It will be interesting to see if any response is given by the club or if they ignore. The comments re stadium sale and Straiton are the most concerning and somewhat surprising

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Originally Posted by WestStandMoaner

I am not saying I agree with the card all I am saying is this rumour has been around for sometime and for it now to be put in writing to the fans someone must be sure of their facts because if not I agree it is a dangerous quote for a number of reasons including legal

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I know this rumour has been around for a while but I can assure you that the accounts are very clear and Hibs own East Mains I feel people should be very careful in what they allege lets deal in facts.

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Originally Posted by NW

It will be interesting to see if any response is given by the club or if they ignore. The comments re stadium sale and Straiton are the most concerning and somewhat surprising

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Has he sent it to the club?

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Originally Posted by hibbydad

I know this rumour has been around for a while but I can assure you that the accounts are very clear and Hibs own East Mains I feel people should be very careful in what they allege lets deal in facts.

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I agree let's deal in facts but for many who do not have access to the accounts it would be good for the club to comment on this

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Originally Posted by WestStandMoaner

I agree let's deal in facts but for many who do not have access to the accounts it would be good for the club to comment on this

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The accounts are publicly available. In fact I believe there's a link to them on this very forum.

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Originally Posted by WestStandMoaner

I agree let's deal in facts but for many who do not have access to the accounts it would be good for the club to comment on this

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You can get them here at a quid a time...

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//wcprodorder?ft=1

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Originally Posted by WestStandMoaner

I agree let's deal in facts but for many who do not have access to the accounts it would be good for the club to comment on this

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You can see them here.........

http://www.hibs.net/forumdisplay.php?37-hibs-net-Vault

Can anyone scan and copy one of these leaflets on here.

There was a " Hands on Hibs " action group around a few years ago but I thought that grouping had died out.

Sounds pretty desperate , foul stuff to me.

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Originally Posted by Caversham Green

I am. It's absolute rubbish and I hope the ********s responsible for it get nowhere near ownership of our club.

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totally agree

Nonsense like that reaks of desperation and tells me they are not to be trusted.

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Originally Posted by Caversham Green

The question is asked by the auditors every year, but the truth is that the football club OWN the property, therefore they can't possibly RENT it as well.

And it's not a case of STF doing no wrong, it's a case of objecting to defamatory rubbish issued by halfwits.

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Hibernian Football Club does not solely own the stadium or East Mains. For someone that seems so sure of the accounts your missing vital points.

Ever wondered why confidentiality agreements had to be signed when the takeover groups were in talks regarding buy out.

How can s.t.f. Be fleecing the club ,he owns the club,he would be stealing from himself.he puts money in ,then takes it back,if that is indeed the point.i never would nor could accuse s.t.f.of taking money out of the club,simply because I can't prove it.i was handed a card before the game,I read it then binned it complete nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Slim Shady

Hibernian Football Club does not solely own the stadium or East Mains. For someone that seems so sure of the accounts your missing vital points.

Ever wondered why confidentiality agreements had to be signed when the takeover groups were in talks regarding buy out.

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So who owns it/them?

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Originally Posted by Slim Shady

Hibernian Football Club does not solely own the stadium or East Mains. For someone that seems so sure of the accounts your missing vital points.

Ever wondered why confidentiality agreements had to be signed when the takeover groups were in talks regarding buy out.

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Hibernian Football Club does own these properties and it does not pay rent to anyone for them.

Confidentiality agreements are standard business practice in negotiations of this nature.

I assume Cavendish they would be shown as assets in the accounts?

This is a regurgitation of the nonsense that came out years ago. Designed to try and undermine STF. Hands on Hibs should tell you who!

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Originally Posted by oregonhibby

I assume Cavendish they would be shown as assets in the accounts?

This is a regurgitation of the nonsense that came out years ago. Designed to try and undermine STF. Hands on Hibs should tell you who!

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They are indeed shown as assets in the balance sheet and aside from the securities for loans no encumbrances or co-ownership is disclosed. From my experience as an auditor I know KPMG will have examined ownership very closely.

But

Who's Cavendish?

Ah ha! Predictive spelling! Apologies!

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Originally Posted by oregonhibby

Ah ha! Predictive spelling! Apologies!

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Don't worry, I've been called worse.

It's the old Hibernian FC/Hibernian holdings argument as shown by his post on the holyrood boxing facebook page.

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Originally Posted by Caversham Green

They are indeed shown as assets in the balance sheet and aside from the securities for loans no encumbrances or co-ownership is disclosed. From my experience as an auditor I know KPMG will have examined ownership very closely.

But

Who's Cavendish?

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You are totally right Caversham KPMG would never allow EM to be shown on balace sheet as an asset if it was not owned by Hibs. This raises great concerns in my mind re Kano's campaign. Again I say we must deal in facts not rumours and unfounded speculation

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Originally Posted by hibbydad

You are totally right Caversham KPMG would never allow EM to be shown on balace sheet as an asset if it was not owned by Hibs. This raises great concerns in my mind re Kano's campaign. Again I say we must deal in facts not rumours and unfounded speculation

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To be fair, I'm not convinced Paul Kane (never could call him Kano even as a player) is involved with this - I don't think he'd be that stupid.

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Originally Posted by hibbydad

You are totally right Caversham KPMG would never allow EM to be shown on balace sheet as an asset if it was not owned by Hibs. This raises great concerns in my mind re Kano's campaign. Again I say we must deal in facts not rumours and unfounded speculation

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This is nothing to so with anything linked to SDS or forever Hibernian. This is totally independent of anything else as far as I am concerned. Hands
On Hibs have chosen this route whilst other have opted for different routes. The surveys etc are the best starting point to move to further discussions.

I am keen to see if any evidence re all this

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Originally Posted by Caversham Green

To be fair, I'm not convinced Paul Kane (never could call him Kano even as a player) is involved with this - I don't think he'd be that stupid.

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I would hope not Caversham but I did see him with documents and spealing to people outside the east as if he was part of the campaign

Agreed but the fact is we are, as a football club, in a real mess. Winds of Change ? We were 12 minutes from being bottom or the championship. On a brighter note is was good to see Pat looking so well. Wonder why Jimmy O'rourke was not there. He was ill for a bit but feeling better i heard. Anyone met up with Jim lately ?

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Originally Posted by southsider

Agreed but the fact is we are, as a football club, in a real mess. Winds of Change ? We were 12 minutes from being bottom or the championship. On a brighter note is was good to see Pat looking so well. Wonder why Jimmy O'rourke was not there. He was ill for a bit but feeling better i heard. Anyone met up with Jim lately ?

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We are in a mess but rubbish like these leaflets only serves to damage us more.

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Originally Posted by hibbydad

I would hope not Caversham but I did see him with documents and spealing to people outside the east as if he was part of the campaign

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That was paper copies of the SDS survey he was giving out to ask for feedback

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Originally Posted by Iain G

Judging by the phrasing and not particularly effective use of CAPITAL LETTERS it seems to be that vaguely delusional boxing gym bloke that "stormed" one of the fan sessions...

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Instead of slagging him off an internet site. Why don't you do it face to face and discuss things with him. He's a nice lad.

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Originally Posted by DC_Hibs

It's the old Hibernian FC/Hibernian holdings argument as shown by his post on the holyrood boxing facebook page.

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I just went and read that, wow. What an idiot.

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Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith

I just went and read that, wow. What an idiot.

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He is not doing this to wear out old clothes. He is doing this because he believes our club is being run badly. Some of us may agree with his tactics, others not so but we all agree is we are in the poo up to out necks. Buck stops with Petrie.

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Originally Posted by southsider

He is not doing this to wear out old clothes. He is doing this because he believes our club is being run badly. Some of us may agree with his tactics, others not so but we all agree is we are in the poo up to out necks. Buck stops with Petrie.

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His 'tactics' being to post sensationalist lies on the internet in the hope stupid people believe him?

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Originally Posted by NW

It will be interesting to see if any response is given by the club or if they ignore. The comments re stadium sale and Straiton are the most concerning and somewhat surprising

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what comments are those?

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Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith

His 'tactics' being to post sensationalist lies on the internet in the hope stupid people believe him?

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Speak to them at next home game. Educate them and stupid people to

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Originally Posted by Weir7

Speak to them at next home game. Educate them and stupid people to

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You obviously think you know more about this so why not try to educate the rest of us here. I'd be interested to hear why this stuff is true despite all evidence to the contrary.

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Originally Posted by Weir7

Instead of slagging him off an internet site. Why don't you do it face to face and discuss things with him. He's a nice lad.

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Originally Posted by Weir7

Speak to them at next home game. Educate them and stupid people to

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You're going to have to up your game here because you're contributing nothing.

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Originally Posted by Weir7

Speak to them at next home game. Educate them and stupid people to

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He's posted lies on the internet, seems logical to me to counter them on the internet.

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Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith

He's posted lies on the internet, seems logical to me to counter them on the internet.

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And call him an idiot

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Originally Posted by Weir7

And call him an idiot

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Yup.

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Originally Posted by HNA7

You're going to have to up your game here because you're contributing nothing.

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Thanks for advice

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Originally Posted by HNA7

You're going to have to up your game here because you're contributing nothing.

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Correct. Seems to be trying to turn it into a school playground thing with "dare you to say it to his face" style nonsense.

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Originally Posted by bigwheel

what comments are those?

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Comments I read on the bounce from a Facebook page saying STF trying to sell ER

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Originally Posted by easty

Correct. Seems to be trying to turn it into a school playground thing with "dare you to say it to his face" style nonsense.

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You are spot on.

Hes come out publicly with his thoughts and the hibs net experts slag him off behind their keyboards.

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Originally Posted by Weir7

You are spot on.

Hes come out publicly with his thoughts and the hibs net experts slag him off behind their keyboards.

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Or:

He's posted malicious lies on the internet and people have slagged him off for it, again on the internet.

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Originally Posted by Weir7

You are spot on.

Hes come out publicly with his thoughts and the hibs net experts slag him off behind their keyboards.

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Is there anything stopping him coming on here to prove the allegations?

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Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith

Or:

He's posted malicious lies on the internet and people have slagged him off for it, again on the internet.

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What lies? Im sure farmer will clear things up.


They were also handing cards out yesterday. Not hiding behind names like "sunshine on leith"

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Originally Posted by Weir7

You are spot on.

Hes come out publicly with his thoughts and the hibs net experts slag him off behind their keyboards.

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The hibs.net experts have publicly available accounts to back them up. So far, hibileaks has provided a card they handed out before the games with nothing other than that to back up any claims.

Until anything further is provided, it's kind of hard to believe anything more.

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Originally Posted by matty_f

Is there anything stopping him coming on here to prove the allegations?

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Believe it or not hibs net ain't that important. Majority of hibs fans have nothing to do with it.

I wouldn't over state its importance

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Originally Posted by Weir7

Believe it or not hibs net ain't that important. Majority of hibs fans have nothing to do with it.

I wouldn't over state its importance

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Well he won't mind anyone complaining on here then.

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Originally Posted by Barney McGrew

The hibs.net experts have publicly available accounts to back them up. So far, hibileaks has provided a card they handed out before the games with nothing other than that to back up any claims.

Until anything further is provided, it's kind of hard to believe anything more.

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Who knows what information they have. Very experienced campaigners in their group. I wish them luck in their aims.

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Originally Posted by matty_f

Well he won't mind anyone complaining on here then.

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Pass.

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Originally Posted by Weir7

What lies? Im sure farmer will clear things up.


They were also handing cards out yesterday. Not hiding behind names like "sunshine on leith"

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The motto of your story being what? If you're hard you can make up all the **** that you want?

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Originally Posted by easty

The motto of your story being what? If you're hard you can make up all the **** that you want?

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Whats a motto? Who is hard? What has been made up?

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Originally Posted by Weir7

Who knows what information they have. Very experienced campaigners in their group. I wish them luck in their aims.

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Until they make that information public, then they can rightly expect to be challenged given what is available.

And if the information they claim to have have is as big a bombshell as they're making out, then why not make it public?

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Originally Posted by Weir7

What lies? Im sure farmer will clear things up.


They were also handing cards out yesterday. Not hiding behind names like "sunshine on leith"

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"you may or may not know that Hibernian F.C does not own Easter Road Stadium, Tom Farmer's "Hibernian Holdings" does" - Lie.

"Farmer BROKE HIBS UP INTO BITS he put all the realisable assets into HIS HIBERNIAN HOLDINGS Company, Straiton being but just one of many" - Lie, despite the impressive use of upper-case font.

"Hibernian Football Club is paying the Farmer family hundreds of thousands of pounds each year to rent the East Mains Hibernian Training Centre" - Lie.

There's three for you. Franky they're so ridiculous and devoid of any grounding in reality that I hope they're considered no more worthy of a response from the Club than me alleging that Rod Petrie is, in fact, a lizard.

The old adage was follow the money but with Hibs that is near impossible thanks to dummy companies, holding companies and the like. Even a Philademphia lawyer would struggle. We need clarity. And we need Petrie gone.

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Originally Posted by Weir7

Who knows what information they have. Very experienced campaigners in their group. I wish them luck in their aims.

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Thats just it though. Nobody knows what info they claim to have.

If they believe they have credible evidence of something dodgy, then call a meeting or a press conference and present it to people. This silly cloak and dagger stuff doesn't do anyone any favours, most of all them.

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Originally Posted by southsider

The old adage was follow the money but with Hibs that is near impossible thanks to dummy companies, holding companies and the like. Even a Philademphia lawyer would struggle. We need clarity. And we need Petrie gone.

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Hibernian Football Club Ltd owns the stadium and training centre outright.

Hibernian Football Club Ltd does not pay any rent for the use of the stadium or training centre. It's bizarre to even suggest anything else given the company owns them.

It really is that simple.

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Originally Posted by Weir7

Whats a motto? Who is hard? What has been made up?

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I meant moral not motto.

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Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith

"you may or may not know that Hibernian F.C does not own Easter Road Stadium, Tom Farmer's "Hibernian Holdings" does" - Lie.

"Farmer BROKE HIBS UP INTO BITS he put all the realisable assets into HIS HIBERNIAN HOLDINGS Company, Straiton being but just one of many" - Lie, despite the impressive use of upper-case font.

"Hibernian Football Club is paying the Farmer family hundreds of thousands of pounds each year to rent the East Mains Hibernian Training Centre" - Lie.

There's three for you. Franky they're so ridiculous and devoid of any grounding in reality that I hope they're considered no more worthy of a response from the Club than me alleging that Rod Petrie is, in fact, a lizard.

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Just got handed a card alleging that Rod Petrie is, in fact, a lizard.

Well, that's proof enough for me.

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Originally Posted by Jim Herriot

Just got handed a card alleging that Rod Petrie is, in fact, a lizard.

Well, that's proof enough for me.

:)

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No, he is a snake.

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Originally Posted by Jim Herriot

Just got handed a card alleging that Rod Petrie is, in fact, a lizard.

Well, that's proof enough for me.

:)

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If there's no proof that Rod Petrie is a lizard it should be simple enough for Farmer and Petrie to come out and tell us.

No smoke without fire.

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Originally Posted by WestStandMoaner

There has been a rumour kicking about for a while that Farmer has been fleecing the club. Time will tell if this is true. All the card is really saying is let's ask the question. It also seems for many on here Farmer can do know wrong I can assure you Farmer is a businessman first and foremost so don't just disregard these rumours ( no smoke without fire )

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Can you provide confirmation re your accusation ?
If so please attend the AGM with that proof and it can then be discussed
Of course STF is a business man , whom I have known personally since he and his father started a tiny tyre business at Abbeyhill , but does that make him dishonest ?
Give us some absolute proof - if you have it

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Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith

If there's no proof that Rod Petrie is a lizard it should be simple enough for Farmer and Petrie to come out and tell us.

No smoke without fire.

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Unless it's a smoke bomb.

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Originally Posted by Weir7

What lies? Im sure farmer will clear things up.


They were also handing cards out yesterday. Not hiding behind names like "sunshine on leith"

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" Farmer" doesn't have to clear things up. Hibs publish audited accounts every year which prove that these insinuations are no more than scurrilous pish.

Are you capable of understanding that or are you going to continue to stir the ***** with almost every post you make on this board?

If we were paying the figure I was told about last night to Farmers company then it would go some way to explaining why we haven't produced anything since East Mains opened.

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Originally Posted by hibs4thecup1988

If we were paying the figure I was told about last night to Farmers company then it would go some way to explaining why we haven't produced anything since East Mains opened.

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What figure ?

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Originally Posted by happyhibbie

What figure ?

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I got told £600,000 a year.

Not putting my opinion over, because I think my opinion of East Mains is well known.

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Originally Posted by southsider

The old adage was follow the money but with Hibs that is near impossible thanks to dummy companies, holding companies and the like. Even a Philademphia lawyer would struggle. We need clarity. And we need Petrie gone.

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98% of the club's shares is owned by HFC Holdings Ltd, the other 2% is owned by fans in general.

10% of HFC Holdings Ltd is owned by Rod Petrie, the rest is under the control of Sir Tom Farmer. The structure that makes up that 90% is irrelevant to the club.

Not that difficult and I've never even been to Philademphia.

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Originally Posted by hibs4thecup1988

If we were paying the figure I was told about last night to Farmers company then it would go some way to explaining why we haven't produced anything since East Mains opened.

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Where is this "figure" coming from? It can't be the football club or it would show in the accounts. It can't be disguised as something else (eg. wages) as it wouldn't get past the auditors.

There seems to be people claiming to be "in the know" who in reality know the square root of sod all.

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Originally Posted by hibs4thecup1988

I got told £600,000 a year.

Not putting my opinion over, because I think my opinion of East Mains is well known.

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Who told you that?

They were wrong.

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Originally Posted by Jim Herriot

Just got handed a card alleging that Rod Petrie is, in fact, a lizard.

Well, that's proof enough for me.

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It's certainly more believable than some of the pish that's appearing on this thread.

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Originally Posted by Caversham Green

Who told you that?

They were wrong.

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A close friend. And he said that group in question had "proof" that will come out in the next 2 weeks. Guess we will wait and see

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Originally Posted by hibs4thecup1988

A close friend. And he said that group in question had "proof" that will come out in the next 2 weeks. Guess we will wait and see

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Why 2 weeks? Why not now?

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Originally Posted by Caversham Green

98% of the club's shares is owned by HFC Holdings Ltd, the other 2% is owned by fans in general.

10% of HFC Holdings Ltd is owned by Rod Petrie, the rest is under the control of Sir Tom Farmer. The structure that makes up that 90% is irrelevant to the club.

Not that difficult and I've never even been to Philademphia.

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:tee hee:

If this lot had ANY evidence they'd be singing from the nearest rooftop.

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Originally Posted by hibs4thecup1988

A close friend. And he said that group in question had "proof" that will come out in the next 2 weeks. Guess we will wait and see

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I predict that if they have any proof at all it does not come from the 21st century.